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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Hispanic and other civil rights groups wrapped up plans for immigration reform marches and rallies Tuesday in dozens of cities, but conceded that a replay of last year’s huge turnout was unlikely.

Still, organizers said the demonstrations reflect a robust movement determined to win a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the country.
“There was a sort of energy last year,” said Gordon Mayer, a vice president of the Community Media Workshop, which helped groups organize the Chicago march. “This year that boulder has split up into a lot of smaller rocks.”

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Round em up, ship em out!
Wow, I’m underwhelmed by your lack of compassion. What happened to “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free” ?

Kim
 
Wow, I’m underwhelmed by your lack of compassion. What happened to “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free” ?

Kim
All that is well and good.
  1. Be invited.
  2. Wait your turn.
  3. Sometimes the answer is no.
There are millions unable to just walk accross the border. Those invited generally do not march in our streets demanding what they have not earned and do not assimilate. Let them march for the freedoms they demand here in their own homeland, I will support that.

It means less and less to be a citizen of America now. There is a two tier justice system that favors the illegal.

If I was arrested for raping a 16 year old girl I would not be released with only a promise of returning south of the border. Strange how that 16 year old girl met her rapist on the street a week later.

If I ws arrested for driving a stolen car with a few ounces of cocaine I would not be plea bargained down to agricultural trespass and fined only.

My wife is an immigrant who played by the rules. I know many who play by the rules. Most who marched in the streets today, like last year are not playing by the rules and many applaud them.

The immigration policy of the past 30 years is a joke. Enforcment of our borders is a joke. Enforcment of our laws for the lawless is a joke. Shame on them who look the other way, shame on those who take advantage of immigrants, and shame on make it so unfair to those who play by the rules.

True compassion for them would be to insist they go home and change their own home. There is no reason Mexico can’t be as prosperous as America except for the corruption Mexicans tolerate there, but expect and demand here. (Not Mexico only- alll countries)

I was in many other countries and never saw every sign in almost every store in two languages like we do here. Italy didn’t do that, or Korea, or Japan…As I remember it 20 years ago Mexico didn’t either. We should do on our border what Mexico does on their southern border- defend it with arms. And limit jobs to real citizens. They are very strict with foreign workers.

We are giving away our heritage to those who abuse it for nothing. I am tired of the double standards and the double talk.

Yes, I’m willing to pay more for things. Knowing that a citizen or legal person has a job with the protections of minimum wage, and that do not live in fear of the police is worth that price. These illegal workers drop wages for legal citizens in all aspects of the economy, but the costs do not go down fo rteh consumer.

I’ll give them dignity, but not my nation. I’ll offer them compassion, but not ecconomic sanctuary. I’ll show them love, along with a bus ticket.
 
Wow, I’m underwhelmed by your lack of compassion. What happened to “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free” ?

Kim
We have admitted millions and will continue to do so. But what about obeying the law while it is done? We can assimilate just so many immigrants before our own economy is damaged. And I really don’t appreciate people who come here illegally and then demand automatic citizenship. I think many of us are very compassionate, but at what point should compassion give way to realism?
 
Wow, I’m underwhelmed by your lack of compassion. What happened to “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free” ?

Kim
Although I can’t state my opinion as good as the above posts, I can’t resist a comeback. These people have made a mockery of our immigration system, by playing on our sympathies. We simply cannot allow this to continue, and expect our country to hold together. I have no sympathy for anybody who breaks our laws, and then expects a reward for doing it. What about the people that have waited and became citizens by going through system legally? These so called un-documented immigrants have made these people look like fools for following the law. In this time of increased security on airlines and buildings, our borders are basically wide open, for anybody to sneak accross. I also think it is wrong for our Church to encourage and to help them with places to hide once they get here. End of rant.
 
Sometimes the best way to understand a contentious issue is to ask questions. These are mine:

Why do these people come here?

Do our personal of collective actions create the pressures that drive them from home or attract them here?

How can the average person get here legally?

Is it a system (the legal pathway) that anyone from anywhere can take advantage of? (Not that all would be allowed in, but that all would have the opportunity to try if they wanted to).

What are the economic advantages or disadvantages of allowing them to remain or forcibly removing them?

Without some research, I personally could not answer all of these questions in a rational, factual way therefore I am guarded in my words and opinions.
 
Sometimes the best way to understand a contentious issue is to ask questions. These are mine:

Why do these people come here?
For the ones that I mostly speak about it is because they are poor and want a better life for their family. Honestly, I would do the same in their situation, but that does not excuse what we do. A large enough % of them however are criminals as in any demographic, and they make it worse for the non-criminals- along with the victims.
Do our personal of collective actions create the pressures that drive them from home or attract them here?
The stability and generousity of America is a huge magnet. Unscrupulous employers, politicians, and consumers in this country. Greedy, corrupt, and unscrupulous politicians in their country to immigrate their problems away.
How can the average person get here legally?
Apply leagally like everyone else. The influx of illegals limits legal immigration.
Is it a system (the legal pathway) that anyone from anywhere can take advantage of? (Not that all would be allowed in, but that all would have the opportunity to try if they wanted to).
Yes. America has “targeted” certain nationalities at various times for various reasons. The late 1800’s and early 1900’s took in waves of poor immigrants becasue of famine, or persecution…Look at the Italian, German, and Polish immigrants of those times. And the Chinese, Philippines…It is not always a matter of ecconomics, or education or other. But in all those cases, those groups were largely invited and were willing to assimilate their children to this way of life. Leaving the corruption they fled. Overall, it is a fair playing field for the honest person almost anywhere.
What are the economic advantages or disadvantages of allowing them to remain or forcibly removing them?
A sane migrant worker policy would be wise. Many do not want to be American becasue they like their homeland and heritage, but once here they have little choice but to either remain separated from the family for years, or to smuggle them here.

A review of the 14th Amendment is overdue. It was not intended as practiced, and has become a part of the problem.

The disadvantages are many. #1 the rule of law is wekened. #2 the ecconomics are unfair to legal citizens. Legal citizens pay for all sorts of services to include schools, and healthcare which are over burdened by often non tax paying non-citizens. Civil justice is skewed to favor the illegal. When illegals forge documents to obtain legal documents to drive or work- how is that helpfull to a citizen who becomes a victim of ID theft? Since they are illegal they often do not carry what legal citizens are required to carry such as the insurance. When an accident occurs the illegal is often released without penelty leaving the victim to cover all costs themselves. Even if they die. If the other victim is an illegal the costs are picked up by the leagal taxpayers and citizens.#3 we make a shadow society that allows/promotes human/drug smuggling, and a slave trade to name a few elemnets of the shadows. By our lack of enforcment we tolerate these activities.
Without some research, I personally could not answer all of these questions in a rational, factual way therefore I am guarded in my words and opinions.
It all only works well if all play by the same rules. That is the one thing that has made America so successful. For the most part most Americans play by the rules. The last 30 years has seen a huge shift in not playing by the rules by everyone except the average American. Business owners, multinational corporations, politicians, and we ourselves…are endangering this unique way of life. If I wanted to be like France or Mexico, I’d move there.
 
I heard someone on CNN interview a 14 year old girl who wanted to go to school to be a veterinarian. She had to put off that “dream” because her mother had been sent back to Mexico. The interviewer was very touched by her story. That echoes what I have seen in the papers and news casts. The poor little children whopse parents are being sent packing. Gee, do they have th same compassion for the children of Americans who have to be sent away to prison?

Sorry, but I have trouble with people who come into a country illegally…and there is no other word for it…and then proceed to tell us what THEY want US to do. Isn’t there something a little wrong with this picture?

I also tire of being told they are just here to work and be good Americans. Well first of all, they aren’t Americans, they are Mexicans, Venezuelans…etc. They will be good Americans if they go back home and ASK to come into this country., They need to take their place in line…behind the people who have already asked. Some may be turned down…that is just the way it is. We do not to import criminals and with the way immigration is today…we do not know who is coming into the country.

The illegals who drive drunk and then end up killing some poor innocent person should be put in prison and then at the end of their sentence deported.

I know of no other country on this earth who would let themselves be made a mockery of like the USA is. What other country would lie down and play dead and let themselves be walkled over by people demanding to come in and demanding what they are not entitled to?

:heart:Blyss
 
For the ones that I mostly speak about it is because they are poor and want a better life for their family. Honestly, I would do the same in their situation, but that does not excuse what we do. A large enough % of them however are criminals as in any demographic, and they make it worse for the non-criminals- along with the victims.

The stability and generousity of America is a huge magnet. Unscrupulous employers, politicians, and consumers in this country. Greedy, corrupt, and unscrupulous politicians in their country to immigrate their problems away.

Apply leagally like everyone else. The influx of illegals limits legal immigration.

Yes. America has “targeted” certain nationalities at various times for various reasons. The late 1800’s and early 1900’s took in waves of poor immigrants becasue of famine, or persecution…Look at the Italian, German, and Polish immigrants of those times. And the Chinese, Philippines…It is not always a matter of ecconomics, or education or other. But in all those cases, those groups were largely invited and were willing to assimilate their children to this way of life. Leaving the corruption they fled. Overall, it is a fair playing field for the honest person almost anywhere.

A sane migrant worker policy would be wise. Many do not want to be American becasue they like their homeland and heritage, but once here they have little choice but to either remain separated from the family for years, or to smuggle them here.

A review of the 14th Amendment is overdue. It was not intended as practiced, and has become a part of the problem.

The disadvantages are many. #1 the rule of law is wekened. #2 the ecconomics are unfair to legal citizens. Legal citizens pay for all sorts of services to include schools, and healthcare which are over burdened by often non tax paying non-citizens. Civil justice is skewed to favor the illegal. When illegals forge documents to obtain legal documents to drive or work- how is that helpfull to a citizen who becomes a victim of ID theft? Since they are illegal they often do not carry what legal citizens are required to carry such as the insurance. When an accident occurs the illegal is often released without penelty leaving the victim to cover all costs themselves. Even if they die. If the other victim is an illegal the costs are picked up by the leagal taxpayers and citizens.#3 we make a shadow society that allows/promotes human/drug smuggling, and a slave trade to name a few elemnets of the shadows. By our lack of enforcment we tolerate these activities.

It all only works well if all play by the same rules. That is the one thing that has made America so successful. For the most part most Americans play by the rules. The last 30 years has seen a huge shift in not playing by the rules by everyone except the average American. Business owners, multinational corporations, politicians, and we ourselves…are endangering this unique way of life. If I wanted to be like France or Mexico, I’d move there.
Thanks for your responses. The only one that’s not quite settled for me is the legal pathway which I have heard (not sure this is true) is only open to those with certain occupations or with family ties to people already here legally. So I wasn’t asking so much about people from other countries, but specifically can any Mexican apply and be considered regardless of occupation, economic status, lack of relatives in the US etc?
 
So I wasn’t asking so much about people from other countries, but specifically can any Mexican apply and be considered regardless of occupation, economic status, lack of relatives in the US etc?
I think our immigratyion system has become too lax. There used to be a time when they would do health checks. Now…with all those who are coming in illegally…we don’t know what diseases they are bringing with them. That is a concern for everyone, regardless of what you might think about illegal immigration.

:heart:Blyss
 
I have not seen this factor mentioned yet. Mexico is a country very rich in natural resources and has a climate just made for growing crops that could be sold. Instead, the second largest source of income in the country is money sent back by (mostly) illegal immigrants to this country. There is something wrong with this picture. If the citizens there would work as hard to rid themselves of their corrupt government as they do breaking the law to get here, it would be better for all of us. I am all for legal immigration, my father immigrated from Holland as a three year old. It was expected that an immigrant learn the language and he did well enough to spend a lifetime in broadcasting and TV news. Until we enforce the laws that are on the books, we will continue to have people who are content to live off the largese of the American economy.
 
Economics is not always that simple which is why I asked the question about factors pushing them out or attracting them here.

Your country can have the most fertile soil on God’s green earth and still not be able to make it in the world economy if the crops can’t be sold at a reasonable price. Same goes for other natural resources. Seems to me that Third World countries aren’t the ones framing world economic policy.

Few things are as straightforward as they seem. Maybe my weekly shopping cart holds some of the responsibility for this mess.
 
I believe that any discussion of immigration policies has to begin with a look at economics in Mexico. While that nation is potentially rich in natural resources, it is essentially an oligarchy. In that context something like 10% of the people control 90% of the money. There is little economic or industrial development, with the exception of some “show case” industries in close proximity to the border. In that context, it’s not too difficult to understand the desire of the average Mexican to come across the border. Keep in mind that our minimum wage is almost a king’s ransom in Mexico. The average Mexican’s strong ties to family are the motive for him to send money home. Needless to say, the Mexican government loves all this hard foreign currency coming into the country. The Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates that 11 million Mexican citizens are in the U.S. illegally. Moving all of these people back to Mexico would be a logistical impossibilty, so we do need to implement some policy that will lead to U.S. citizenship for them. In the meantime, we need to take some bold economic initiatives to improve Mexico’s economy to the point where it makes more sense for it’s citizens to remain at home.
 
All that is well and good.
  1. Be invited.
  2. Wait your turn.
  3. Sometimes the answer is no.
There are millions unable to just walk accross the border. Those invited generally do not march in our streets demanding what they have not earned and do not assimilate. Let them march for the freedoms they demand here in their own homeland, I will support that.

Ok, this I will agree with. I don’t understand why they aren’t marching on their own government. Wait. They will probably be shot or imprisioned

It means less and less to be a citizen of America now. There is a two tier justice system that favors the illegal.

If I was arrested for raping a 16 year old girl I would not be released with only a promise of returning south of the border. Strange how that 16 year old girl met her rapist on the street a week later.

Happens with many rapists. Not just the ones here illegally.

If I ws arrested for driving a stolen car with a few ounces of cocaine I would not be plea bargained down to agricultural trespass and fined only.

Really? That happens all the time as well.

My wife is an immigrant who played by the rules. I know many who play by the rules. Most who marched in the streets today, like last year are not playing by the rules and many applaud them.

**It’s wonderful that your wife managed to get in legally.

Many people can’t wait that long to be on the list. They have children who need to be fed today.**

The immigration policy of the past 30 years is a joke. Enforcment of our borders is a joke. Enforcment of our laws for the lawless is a joke. Shame on them who look the other way, shame on those who take advantage of immigrants, and shame on make it so unfair to those who play by the rules.

I do agree with your “shame on those who take advantage” Something needs to be done about those Coyotes.

True compassion for them would be to insist they go home and change their own home. There is no reason Mexico can’t be as prosperous as America except for the corruption Mexicans tolerate there, but expect and demand here. (Not Mexico only- alll countries)

You forget that many people coming here through Mexico, aren’t Mexican at all. A lot of Columbians, Chilians,Venasulans, and others come through there. Venasulans come from a communist country. Can you see them fighting their government?

I was in many other countries and never saw every sign in almost every store in two languages like we do here. Italy didn’t do that, or Korea, or Japan…As I remember it 20 years ago Mexico didn’t either. We should do on our border what Mexico does on their southern border- defend it with arms. And limit jobs to real citizens. They are very strict with foreign workers.

The last time I was in Nogalas,about two years ago, there were a lot of English signs. Granted it is a boarder town. Maybe that’s why.

We are giving away our heritage to those who abuse it for nothing. I am tired of the double standards and the double talk.

What heritage? Are you Native American?

Yes, I’m willing to pay more for things. Knowing that a citizen or legal person has a job with the protections of minimum wage, and that do not live in fear of the police is worth that price. These illegal workers drop wages for legal citizens in all aspects of the economy, but the costs do not go down fo rteh consumer.

Perhaps you should talk to the American companies who move their businessess to other countries, before you blame the immigrants.

I’ll give them dignity, but not my nation. I’ll offer them compassion, but not ecconomic sanctuary. I’ll show them love, along with a bus ticket.
A bus ticket to where? Will you ship many of them all the way to South America? Again, not everyone coming through Mexico is Mexican. Is it only Mexicans we are picking on, or will you ship back all the Hatians and Cubans as well? While we’re at it, what about the Irish, and Italians, Jamacians, Viet Namiese, and Chinese. How about all the Sudanese refugees? Some melting pot, huh?

Kim
 
THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Source: Constitutional Congress United States of America
 
A bus ticket to where? Will you ship many of them all the way to South America? Again, not everyone coming through Mexico is Mexican. Is it only Mexicans we are picking on, or will you ship back all the Hatians and Cubans as well? While we’re at it, what about the Irish, and Italians, Jamacians, Viet Namiese, and Chinese. How about all the Sudanese refugees? Some melting pot, huh?

Kim
Where ever their home nation is, all costs to repatriate them would be deducted from any aid we provide that nation. Cubans-now: if they make it to shore they stay, if their feet are still wet, they go home. Dumb.
Ok, this I will agree with. I don’t understand why they aren’t marching on their own government. Wait. They will probably be shot or imprisioned
Some things are worth a risk. Freedom is not free. Look at our Revolution, the French, the UK… it happens more often than you think.
Happens with many rapists. Not just the ones here illegally.
Really? That happens all the time as well.
Not for US citizens nearly to the degree of illegal immigrants, and two wrongs don’t make a right. Your point is invalid.
It’s wonderful that your wife managed to get in legally.
On a visa and it took her 5 years. She was invited, she worked and abided by the rules. She did not overstay her visa and become illegal.
Many people can’t wait that long to be on the list. They have children who need to be fed today.
Then march on their own government and demand change like other peoples in other countries have done-see above, instead of dragging their kids accross a dangerous desert, or hide in the back of a truck that has no ventiliation, food or water. Life is hard in many places.
I do agree with your “shame on those who take advantage” Something needs to be done about those Coyotes.
No one disputes they are criminals. We should target those on the other end- Americans who knowingly hire, house, and hide them from the law.
You forget that many people coming here through Mexico, aren’t Mexican at all. A lot of Columbians, Chilians,Venasulans, and others come through there. Venasulans come from a communist country. Can you see them fighting their government?
I forget nothing. True, many are from Iran, Syria, Egypt and other such friendly-to-America places.

Yes, I can see them fighting their government, and if they ask for help I will help. You seem so quick to show compassion for those who make it here illegally, but no compassion for the millions that remain under the oppression, or the tens of millions here that must support the illegals.
What heritage? Are you Native American?
Are you just being silly? The heritage of the unique American experience that many Europeans, Columbians, Chilians, Venasulans, Asians, Russians…who have embraced the ideals of America and have created a diverse culture of freedom and laws.
Perhaps you should talk to the American companies who move their businessess to other countries, before you blame the immigrants.
No, we should talk to American politicians who enacted such laws, and do so with a vote that says no more to the multi-national corporations that leave thousands of Americans out of work. Our manufacturing jobs are all going overseas. That is not good defense policy.

You might say they can find another job. Like picking lima beans in a filed in southern California, or be a maid in a motel, or a construction worker…no wait: illegals have those jobs becasue they will work for less, with no benefits. Yet the price never changes for the consumer.

Now the unemployed American must stand along side the illegal immigrant in the emergency room who took your job. They pay nothing becasue, well, they are poor and don’t speak english and darn it we should just be compassionate. But when they hand the American the medical bill he cannot pay, they take his house, his car, and boot him to the street.

Your kids share a crowded classroom and are learning Spanish instead of math, so our next generation is unqualified for skilled labor, has learned a language and culture that is very un-American, and becasue they are now in the same boat, will join the illegal marchers demanding more “rights” for the illegals.
 
Where ever their home nation is, all costs to repatriate them would be deducted from any aid we provide that nation. Cubans-now: if they make it to shore they stay, if their feet are still wet, they go home. Dumb.

Some things are worth a risk. Freedom is not free. Look at our Revolution, the French, the UK… it happens more often than you think.

Not for US citizens nearly to the degree of illegal immigrants, and two wrongs don’t make a right. Your point is invalid.

On a visa and it took her 5 years. She was invited, she worked and abided by the rules. She did not overstay her visa and become illegal.

Then march on their own government and demand change like other peoples in other countries have done-see above, instead of dragging their kids accross a dangerous desert, or hide in the back of a truck that has no ventiliation, food or water. Life is hard in many places.

No one disputes they are criminals. We should target those on the other end- Americans who knowingly hire, house, and hide them from the law.

I forget nothing. True, many are from Iran, Syria, Egypt and other such friendly-to-America places.

Yes, I can see them fighting their government, and if they ask for help I will help. You seem so quick to show compassion for those who make it here illegally, but no compassion for the millions that remain under the oppression, or the tens of millions here that must support the illegals.

Are you just being silly? The heritage of the unique American experience that many Europeans, Columbians, Chilians, Venasulans, Asians, Russians…who have embraced the ideals of America and have created a diverse culture of freedom and laws.

No, we should talk to American politicians who enacted such laws, and do so with a vote that says no more to the multi-national corporations that leave thousands of Americans out of work. Our manufacturing jobs are all going overseas. That is not good defense policy.

You might say they can find another job. Like picking lima beans in a filed in southern California, or be a maid in a motel, or a construction worker…no wait: illegals have those jobs becasue they will work for less, with no benefits. Yet the price never changes for the consumer.

Now the unemployed American must stand along side the illegal immigrant in the emergency room who took your job. They pay nothing becasue, well, they are poor and don’t speak english and darn it we should just be compassionate. But when they hand the American the medical bill he cannot pay, they take his house, his car, and boot him to the street.

Your kids share a crowded classroom and are learning Spanish instead of math, so our next generation is unqualified for skilled labor, has learned a language and culture that is very un-American, and becasue they are now in the same boat, will join the illegal marchers demanding more “rights” for the illegals.
Maybe you could document these accusations, or retract the ones which can not be properly documented.
 
Maybe you could document these accusations, or retract the ones which can not be properly documented.
What documentation would you like for people standing up for themselves and throwing off oppresive governments? Are you denying the American Revolution, or the French or English?

How should I document that freedom isn’t free?

Shall I let you talk to my wife?

People dying to get here?
azstarnet.com/sn/border/178035

Othe than Mexicans crossing the border?
worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24987

Statistics are kept of those apprehended near the southern border who are “Other Than Mexicans” or “OTM’s”. The number of OTM’s apprehended near the southern border has been clearly and dramatically increasing from 28,598 in 2000 to 65,814 in 2004.
globalsecurity.org/security/systems/mexico-wall.htm

The OTM’s have come from some places as Iraq, Iran, Syria and other terrorist sponsoring countries.
rlsinternationalsecurity.com/sites/southernborder.html

Jobs leaving the US?
HERSHEY, Pa. (AP) — Hershey (HSY) is cutting 1,500 jobs over three years as part of a plan to scale back production and move some manufacturing to Mexico, the candy maker announced Thursday.
usatoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/2007-02-15-hershey-cuts_x.htm

Illegals not assimilating, not wanting to?
Most of these immigrants are poor, uneducated, and are unable to speak our language. Many do not want to assimilate and become American citizens.
itsyourtimes.com/?q=node/1995

Crowded classrooms due to illegals?
csmonitor.com/2004/0326/p01s02-ussc.html

Emergency rooms?
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4351/is_200409/ai_n15194517

Now you properly document for me the benefit to open borders, the rising cost of healthcare due to tens of millions of illegals in America, the exploding costs for public services picked up by leagal citizens.
 
THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Source: Constitutional Congress United States of America
Great. The document was with respect to citizens of this new nation.

Clause 2:

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

These laws are applicable to US citizens, not Mexicans, or Columbians, or Russians, or Iranians. It is the Constituion of the United States. Other nations do not abide by our laws just as we do not abide by theirs. Why is that so difficult to understand?
 
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