Immoral to have children?

[Rau]

Refuses non-contraceptive sex.

Can you point to any source that interprets “excludes” such as to require an intent to only have contracepted sex? [I assume you don’t require the determination to extend to a willingness to abort.]

Is it your assessment then that a (pre-marriage) resolve to carefully adopt NFP to avoid for the whole of marriage is acceptable (because children are a nuisance, limit travel opportunities etc) does not invalidate the marriage?

 

[annad347]

This is literally what our bodies are designed to do.

Some… not all

 

[1ke]

Is it your assessment then that a (pre-marriage) resolve to carefully adopt NFP to avoid for the whole of marriage is acceptable (because children are a nuisance, limit travel opportunities etc) does not invalidate the marriage?

No.

Can you point to any source that interprets “excludes” such as to require an intent to only have contracepted sex?

Again, one can either exclude the belief that marriage is ordered to offspring, or the exchange of the right to procreative (ordered per se to procreation) or both.

I gave examples of both. But it could be either.

 

[1ke]

Some… not all

It is what ALL bodies are designed to do. Human reproduction isn’t subjective.

Subjectively, some individuals may have defects, disease, or some external event that damages the reproductive system.

 

[Rau]

Is it your assessment then that a (pre-marriage) resolve to carefully adopt NFP to avoid for the whole of marriage is acceptable (because children are a nuisance, limit travel opportunities etc) does not invalidate the marriage?

Then we appear to be in agreement. Such resolution does invalidate.

 

[1ke]

Then we appear to be in agreement.

We probably aren’t.

There are two parts to the bonum prolis. One could exclude one part, the other, or neither.

Your example might exclude the first, but that isn’t a given.

 

[annad347]

I was born defective then, cause it was no disease, or some external event that damages my reproductive system… just born that way.

 

[Rau]

We probably aren’t.

There are two parts to the bonum prolis. One could exclude one part, the other, or neither.

Your example might exclude the first, but that isn’t a given.

Probably? This response seems obscure to me. I don’t see any lack of clarity or precision in the scenario I proposed.

 

[EndTimes]

I have tried thinking of it from that perspective,
but consider how we’ve been told most of humanity will go to hell.

Statistically speaking it’s much more likely our children will go to hell than heaven

Who tells you that? And why did you so quickly believe it?

Any who exists could not exist were all to accept that having children is immoral

At least one appears to accept that Morality exists.

At any rate - the answer to the OP question has been overly-abuntantly answered.

No. Of course not. Morality does not connect with allowable Procreation.

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