Impact of Climate Change Is Hitting Home, U.S. Report Finds

[kimmielittle]

Response to 514
I am using a tablet and can not now post sites. However, I will after the weekend and I’m at work. You just have to do some googling. The % of Americans that believe in AGW has dramatically increased while those that believe in a conspiracy has drastically declined. Also, many academically credentialed scientists that were global warming deniers are now firmly in the AGW camp.
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I’ll await your support for your claim.

 

[wittgenstein]

Response to post 519
I was talking about you in particular. Post after post you conflate being pro AGW with being an anti-American leftist. Good grief! At least read your own posts!

 

[Ridgerunner]

For literally the exact same reason that I would not consider 5 a valid answer to 2+2. I don’t know how you’re not getting this. Once again, the game is over. I’m not exaggerating. This is not a matter opinion. This is reality. As real as you and I and as real as the weak economy.

You have already admitted that you have no personal expertise in this, so anybody’s opinion is as good as yours. You are apparently persuaded by the assertions of others that MMGW is real. Others are just as persuaded by the assertions of others that it isn’t.

So it isn’t a matter of 2+2=5, and certainly not coming from you. It’s a matter of “this guy says X” versus “that guy says Y”, and nothing more. It’s hearsay, and conflicting hearsay to boot. And it’s not too surprising that courts do not consider hearsay sufficiently persuasive to allow a jury to hear it.

And some argue that the economy is not weak as well, including the president and the stock market. I don’t personally accept that assertion, but the opinion either way is no more a certitude than MMGW is.

 

[LisaA]

Response to post 519
I was talking about you in particular. Post after post you conflate being pro AGW with being an anti-American leftist. Good grief! At least read your own posts!

No you are conflating my statement that most environmentalists are Leftist as claiming they are “America hating communists…” Do tell me you disagree that most environmentalists are on the Left? Just hazarding a guess here Witt, I bet you are a Democrat!

Lisa

 

[Farsight001]

The fact that you can not vindicate the Data manipulation - exclusion - refusal to present data… for scientific scrutiny … They can’t.

Did I refuse to present data? No. Did I say nothing could be vindicated? No. Did I say I couldn’t present it? No. In fact, I said that it was already presented earlier in this thread. I could not have been more clear and we both know you read my post, so cut the behavior just trying to get under my skin and talk to me like an adult. Go back and read it, like I said. Don’t ignore the already existing explanation and claim one doesn’t exist. That’s just plain willfully dishonest.

Support your claim , please.

Even blog stats show otherwise Real Climate and Skeptical Science are down in readers…

Places like Climate Audit - Climate Depot - Watts Up With That - Junkscience - Suytspace …are surging in followers

That the general public increasingly denies global warming is not evidence that the experts are also increasingly denying global warming.

 

[kimmielittle]

Any thoughts on this paper?

wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/14/marcotts-hockey-stick-uptick-mystery-it-didnt-used-to-be-there/

 

[Farsight001]

You have already admitted that you have no personal expertise in this, so anybody’s opinion is as good as yours.

I admitted no such thing. You guys keep making stuff up about me. Its completely uncalled for.

You are apparently persuaded by the assertions of others that MMGW is real. Others are just as persuaded by the assertions of others that it isn’t.

No. I am persuaded by the data, which I have myself poured through. Have you?

So it isn’t a matter of 2+2=5, and certainly not coming from you. It’s a matter of “this guy says X” versus “that guy says Y”, and nothing more. It’s hearsay, and conflicting hearsay to boot. And it’s not too surprising that courts do not consider hearsay sufficiently persuasive to allow a jury to hear it.

And you wonder why you are accused of denying reality? Here you go again, claiming 2+2=5.

And some argue that the economy is not weak as well, including the president and the stock market. I don’t personally accept that assertion, but the opinion either way is no more a certitude than MMGW is.

Yes. The president says the economy is not weak when it is. You say global warming is not real when it is. You should really question your decision to compare yourself to the blatantly anti-Catholic president that we have right ow.

 

[kimmielittle]

Did I refuse to present data? No. Did I say nothing could be vindicated? No. Did I say I couldn’t present it? No. In fact, I said that it was already presented earlier in this thread. I could not have been more clear and we both know you read my post, so cut the behavior just trying to get under my skin and talk to me like an adult. Go back and read it, like I said. Don’t ignore the already existing explanation and claim one doesn’t exist. That’s just plain willfully dishonest.

Your explanation: excusal ] of bad scientific practices committed by some of these climategaters…Does NOT vindicate their actions.

You have provided excuses…“The dog ate my homework” quality for bad science.

 

[Farsight001]

Any thoughts on this paper?

wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/14/marcotts-hockey-stick-uptick-mystery-it-didnt-used-to-be-there/

Again, this has already been explained IN THIS VERY THREAD. Read the explanation and address it. Stop ignoring everything we say and repeating the same questions over and over and over again. How ridiculous.

And if you will notice, the chart from the Science article contains more data lines than the one in the thesis paper. They are not changed. Detail was added. Anyone who knows how to read a simple graph can see this.

 

[SamH]

Your explanation: excusal ] of bad scientific practices committed by some of these climategaters…Does NOT vindicate their actions.

You have provided excuses…“The dog ate my homework” quality for bad science.

Doesn’t that pretty much describe the entire theory?