Impossible Burger?

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My girlfriend’s brother had the Impossible Whopper and he said it tasted 100% like the beef Whopper
 
This is my own opinion:

To be honest, I wouldn’t eat a meat analogue on a Friday. Kind of for the same reason I’ve been trying to not eat seafood/fish on Fridays either. To have stricter, better (for me) fast.

But then, I live in south Louisiana, where seafood and fish are as commonly used as beef and chicken.

This is my own form of Lenten abstinence, which is truly a cross to bear… when you skip fried chicken only to have boiled crawfish, that is easy. To abstain from both, is hard.
 
My girlfriend’s brother had the Impossible Whopper and he said it tasted 100% like the beef Whopper
I tried it recently and I was not impressed. But then again, my nearest Burger King is a bizarre place, very attractive when you walk in the door, but it is as though they are deliberately trying to serve lousy food and amenities. Very poorly run place.

As an aside, Chick-fil-a is consistently excellent, but IMO they run that “my pleasure” business into the ground. It is like eating at a restaurant run by The 700 Club (which, in a roundabout way, it kinda-sorta IS). I have to wonder how this plays in a place such as New York City where personal, emotionally involved customer service isn’t expected and no one is offended at its absence. Sometimes a chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.
 
You guys are severely overthinking this.

The fasting and abstinence rules are minimum requirements. Practice the strictest fast you can, and ease back if necessary.

Barring any health issues, nobody should be doing the bare minimum
Once again a quote from another thread by @Camehome4john6

“Let’s not add any hurdles to people that Holy Mother Church has not.”

I believe that you are the one over thinking it.
 
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If I want a hamburger, I want a hamburger.
I don’t eat burgers often, but when I do, I do not want a faux burger.
I assume that since an impossible burger contains no meat, then it is okay to eat on meat abstinence days.
 
Barring any health issues, nobody should be doing the bare minimum.
Pay attention to what your body is telling you. I have not been well since our fast started on Monday. I know each year that I don’t react well, but I try to do it anyway.

But on the subject of fake meat, I understand I’m in the minority on this, but I don’t think it should be eaten. To me (and this is only my opinion) it breaks the spirit of abstinence. Again, just for me personally.
 
You know what they call an Impossible Burger in France, right? Un burger incroyable.
 
While an Impossible Whopper from Burger King may fulfill the letter of the law…it pretty much tastes exactly like hamburger.

Does eating these modern-day miracles of gastronomical science (meat substitutes) go against the spirit and intent of abstinence from meat and should be avoided?

Has the Church made any recent statements about meat substitutes?
I’m sure it took some hard work to perfect, but it’s really not that miraculous. Molecularly, the difference between animal matter and plant matter isn’t too great. Even plain old mushrooms or beans have an umami taste to them that can remind a person of meat.

The impossible Burger isn’t meat therefore you can canonically eat it on days of abstinence.

Whether or not it is spiritually beneficial for a person and whether they benefit from the idea of abstinence or fasting is something they need to discern for themselves. That has nothing to do with what is canonical or not canonical.

Me personally: no, I wouldn’t go out of my way to eat an Impossible Burger on a day of abstinence; not because of canon law but just for my own private reasons. But… if I happened to be traveling with a group of people on a day of abstinence and they stopped at a Burger King to eat, then yes, I would order either an Impossible Burger or the fish.

Peace.
 
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Personally, I’ve always felt like clock-watchers (“Ooooh, I can binge up at 23:59 or 00:01 (as appropriate) – Hooray!”) to be a more common violation of the spirit of the law while complying with the letter, but I usually feel like I am alone dying on that hill. No one else seems to question it. 🤷‍♂️

REPEAT: I absolutely do not say clock-watchers are wrong. But to me they just don’t feel right.
 
And the Chicago AD did precisely what they should have done.
They are correct. It misses the point of doing penance, and has been wisely said above, this is something each soul must discern for himself.

This statement from the Archdiocese carries no canonical force and does not technically ban disgusting fake meat.

But I agree. If one’s purpose in eating a disgusting fake meat burger is to loophole one’s way around the abstinence obligation, one has bigger spiritual issues to be addressed. However, again, whether the line is crossed into sin is determined by the letter of the law, since interpretations covering penalties and sin are to be done strictly. So one is not to point a finger at the fake-burger-eating-on-Friday Catholic and yell Sinner!
 
Personally, I’ve always felt like clock-watchers ( “Ooooh, I can binge up at 23:59 or 00:01 (as appropriate) – Hooray!” ) to be a more common violation of the spirit of the law while complying with the letter, but I usually feel like I am alone dying on that hill. No one else seems to question it. 🤷‍♂️

REPEAT: I absolutely do not say clock-watchers are wrong. But to me they just don’t feel right.
It depends. I am normally up until at least 1:00 am — that’s just me. I’m retired, and our homeschooling doesn’t have to have a strict schedule. We have been known to do “soft”, relaxing subjects such as music appreciation late at night. I just dug up some old JBL speakers to connect to my cheap turntable so I can play my son the classical vinyl I listened to in college. Exquisite!

But to get to the point, it depends. After Ash Wednesday fasting, I was still hungry and didn’t think I would sleep well without a small midnight meal. Shortly after the stroke of midnight, I fixed a plate of cornbread and real sausage patties, and had them about five minutes after. It was very welcome. The whole mindset of penance is fraught with shades of meaning and personal importance that non-penitential Christians miss out on. Being thankful for a small meal that, in humble subjection to the Church, was forbidden earlier in the evening — that, too, can bring us closer to God.
 
if it bothers you, don’t eat it. if you’re fine eating a plant base food that tastes like meat, eat it. i don’t expect the Church to make an official ruling on Burger Kings menu anytime soon.
 
It’s not real meat so, no, it doesn’t break the fast, but it sounds really unhealthy and unnatural. Call me old-fashioned, but I like natural, healthy, foods, but maybe that’s just me. 😉
 
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The revulsion to fake meat aside…

The USCCB says this on their website Q&As, “However, moral theologians have traditionally taught that we should abstain from all animal-derived products (except foods such as gelatin, butter, cheese and eggs, which do not have any meat taste).”

Interesting that “meat taste” is a consideration for moral theologians.
http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/lent/questions-and-answers-about-lent.cfm
Taken on its face, that statement seems to forbid milk as it is not mentioned as an exception. Milk is much more widely consumed than gelatin, but gelatin was a specified exemption while milk was not. “Meat taste” seems an awfully strange guideline on which to base one’s eternal salvation. And yes, I know cheese is made from milk, but again: a specific reference to milk seems so strange by its absence.
Milk is not mentioned because it is a drink, not a food.

Gelatin was mentioned because it’s a food and TRADITIONALLY was made with meat products. If you Google “meat jello” you will see.
 
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