Imprimatur for Latest Books from Robert Sungenis Denied

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…Like I said, the question wasn’t about whether it had an imprimatur. It was about if it was turned down, when it was sent and if anything came back from his bishop. I wasn’t the only one asking you questions. You were being very misleading with the words you used and tried to make people think everything was fine by using words in a clever way. Everything wasn’t fine. And I don’t appreciate it.

Maybe you’re just trying to protect your friend but the way you’re doing it isn’t cool.
The main person asking about the imprimatuir was Augustine22, followed by lumengentlemen (JM). Augustine22’s main purpose was to attack Sungenis. I was here on CA when his very first post showed up, and it was to attack Sungenis. Lumengentlemen was doing the same thing.

That is why I was quite clear that it did not have an imprimatur, and I still stood behind it. The fact it was turned down for an imprimatur is really no ones business. Books are turned down for imprimaturs all the time, and just end up getting published without one. Sungenis’ bishop was quite clear that his book does not require one.

I’m sorry if you feel let down. That was not my intention.

Mark Wyatt
www.veritas-catholic.blogsopt.com
 
Boring, boring, boring,

Ho hum.

I double-checked and the Pope’s recent book, Jesus of Nazareth does not have an imprimatur or nihil obstat, neither does an earlier work of his with Hans Urs Von Balthasar titled “Mary the Church and the Source.”

After all, the New American Bible had an imprimatur and nihil obstat, so this all seems like a p-ing contest to me.

Do we really have an issue here? What is the problem?
 
The main person asking about the imprimatuir was Augustine22, followed by lumengentlemen (JM). Augustine22’s main purpose was to attack Sungenis. I was here on CA when his very first post showed up, and it was to attack Sungenis. Lumengentlemen was doing the same thing.
Maybe you’re right. I don’t know. But you started it off by doing just the opposite with more commercials for his bible studies there and on another thread. That’s why I said something in the first place. You had some really negative things to say about Hahn and Barber acting like Protestants and then you pushed Dr. Sungenis’ book instead. That really bothers me considering that Dr. Sungenis book was turned down for an imprimatur and you knew it. It looks to me like you use the bishop’s imprimatur like a commercial when it helps Dr. Sungenis with his books and then you treat the bishops like they’re dirt when they say something negative about him and that your opinion of his books matters more than theirs.
The fact it was turned down for an imprimatur is really no ones business. Books are turned down for imprimaturs all the time, and just end up getting published without one. Sungenis’ bishop was quite clear that his book does not require one.
:confused: Don’t you think when you tell everyone you’re going to have an imprimatur in your ads then you’re making it everyone’s business? I mean, come on. The ad saying all of his bible studies will have an imprimatur is still there. And that’s true about the Matthew edition too.

“And, of course, they contain the Catholic Church’s Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, just as the CASB will contain. There is no Bible like the CASB on the market, Catholic or Protestant. No one has ever updated the Douay-Rheims Bible; no one has ever made an “Apologetics Bible” with extensive explanation on key controversial verses; no one has ever gone into the original languages as thoroughly as the CASB does; no Bible contains the extensive amount of scriptural cross-references; few bibles on the market today remain faithful to word-for-word translation; no Bible gives such extensive citations of the Early Fathers, Councils, Popes and Catechism as the CASB; most Catholic Bibles do not have a concordance, but the CASB does.”

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How do you make a promise like that before you even know what the bishop said? I don’t see other people doing that.

If he asked for the imprimatur in private and didn’t advertise it then to me that would be different. And when you were asked questions about whether it was turned down or heard from the bishop one way or the other you made it sound like everything was fine and it wasn’t. Everyone is reading your answers even if they are to someone you think it just attacking Dr. Sungenis.

Then there is still the problem about his translation for the Matthew edition. I don’t see anything saying that Dr. Sungenis can go ahead and publish it as is. It says they won’t give him an imprimatur because its not a true translation and because he used dynamic equivalence when he made it. And the letter said he could appeal the decision to get an imprimatur like he did for his Apocalypse edition. Did he?
I’m sorry if you feel let down. That was not my intention.
Look, I appreciate that and I’m not trying to be unfair. Like I said, maybe you were trying to protect your friend. But what I’m hearing doesn’t fly.

And Crumpy, if the Pope had his book turned down for an imprimatur or couldn’t get his translation approved that would be pretty important news.

But I agree this is getting old. I feel like I’m on a merry-go-round and its time to get off.
 
…You had some really negative things to say about Hahn and Barber acting like Protestants and then you pushed Dr. Sungenis’ book instead.
I did not say (certainly did not mean) that Barber and Hahn were acting like Protestants. I have already clarified that.
… The ad saying all of his bible studies will have an imprimatur is still there. And that’s true about the Matthew edition too.

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The ad is on the website, but it is not linked to anything accessible to the public. In other words if you go to the website, you cannot get to that ad. Only if you happen to know the address (or maybe if you Google it). It is an old ad. I am not sure when the links were removed.

Happy 4th!

Mark Wyatt
www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com
 
I really don’t want to go around more on this, but there are two things.
I did not say (certainly did not mean) that Barber and Hahn were acting like Protestants. I have already clarified that.
This is what you wrote:
We are not Protestants, we cannot invent new views because they make sense. I realize the Church has not rejected this view, but nor has it supoorted it…I just do not think it should be packaged for popular consumption (i.e., Hahn, Barber, etc.). It should be studied by theologians of the Church if anything.
So you said what they were doing was Protestant by inventing things and that “if anything” their work should be studied by theologians. That’s very strong criticism.

And you agreed that what you wrote implies they were acting like Protestants in their work. Then you said you didn’t mean to say that Hahn and Barber themselves were Protestant. But that wasn’t my point. You said that what they did was Protestant. And now that I know about what is going on with the books you recommended from Dr. Sungenis, that makes what you said about Hahn and Barber even harder to swallow. That’s all I’m saying. I just asked you to be the same with everyone.
The ad is on the website, but it is not linked to anything accessible to the public. In other words if you go to the website, you cannot get to that ad. Only if you happen to know the address (or maybe if you Google it). It is an old ad. I am not sure when the links were removed.
:confused:

I found it by clicking an ad on his main page. If you click on the “3 Down and 10 to go” ad it comes up. I just checked it again.

Anyways. Peace. Time for burgers and hotdogs!

God bless and Happy 4th of July to you, too.
 
…I found it by clicking an ad on his main page. If you click on the “3 Down and 10 to go” ad it comes up. I just checked it again.

Anyways. Peace. Time for burgers and hotdogs!

God bless and Happy 4th of July to you, too.
You’re right, I missed that one.:o

He needs to remove that link.

Time to go fire up the BBQ…

Mark Wyatt
www.veritasc-atholci.blogspot.cmo
 
👍 I was starting to wonder if I was losing it!

Cool.

Happy 4th! Man, I love the smell of burgers on a grille!
 
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