Which is always good as long as a pope does not stray into heresy for example saying that the jews covenant with God is still valid which would certainly cross the line from a different style to a heretic. I think pope horanus strayed into heresy. As far as i remember he was excomunicated after death by the church.
No, it is not a warning to me that he might have found a way to soften people up.
So let’s say Pope Francis is successful in getting converts … (although I am not even sure that is his goal).
Yes, of course, the goal is not to be hated, but JESUS said the world will hate us because of HIM. Pope Francis does not mention Jesus in his top 10 keys to happiness; hence, the world does not hate him. Big problem.
No he is not the “darling” of the world because of “Rolling Stone” articles, that is nonsense. I don’t remember John Paul two in that magazine and he was extremely popular and loved. Pope Francis is popular for being so humble, approachable, and yes accepting. Although there are some Catholic that seem to get a high from judging and condemning other, The Jesuit focus on the love and forgiveness Jesus had for people, all people.
Some would say that true happiness comes from giving yourself totally to others. Is it not possible that you don’t like Pope Francis’ list because it isn’t what YOU (and apparently others here) want it to be?
Not really. The crowds loved Jesus as long as he fed/healed/resuscitated them. He wasn’t hiding his message from them - they just didn’t hear it because they were focused on their own agendas. But when he “turned up the dial”, so to speak, it didn’t take very long for the adoring crowds to turn away. Pope Francis is smart - I don’t think he puts too much stock in worldly adulation.
This would be an example of “turning up the dial”.
Too stupid to grasp what he is saying? Hmm…I don’t think that’s really the problem. I don’t think condescending attitudes toward brothers and sisters in Christ is going to do anything for a lack of understanding either. He does seem to be talking to ‘the world’ as much if not more than to his flock right now. NOT that talking to the world is a bad thing at all! It’s necessary to address the world. I think I may understand what he’s trying to do, and that is to reel in the world to the truth of Christ in the Church, and if that’s not it specifically, to at least be on a congenial playing field with the world. I think I get it…he is meeting ‘the world’ where it is. I only hope he is mindful of the ‘reconverting’ he also needs to do right here at home…with his own flock. We are also in dire need of it, looking at the Church today. Our PEWS ARE UHUM…A LITTLE EMPTY AT THE MOMENT? Besides, he is not totally responsible for reeling in the world, I do think the laity plays a part in that. You know, the people in the pews that are living their true faith that will ‘attract’ the world? We are ALL called to this. But…gotta get the PEWS to fill up a little more first.
Well surely the Cardinals knew what Jorge Mario Bergoglio was like and what he believed before they selected him. The Jesuit are known all over the world and being raised with and working at a Jesuit school for 20 years I can tell you he absolutely did not wantt to be the Pope, he was called to be the Pope. The Jesuit don’t believe in putting themselves higher than anyone else. A priest that is the president of a Jesuit school actual is not the head of the other Jesuits he lives with, the rector would be above him over residence matters.
God’s chastisments generaly gave the people what they wanted, to their detriment. look at the chastisments visited on the isralites in the desert for 40 years.
You want hate so much, might be happier in the westboro church…
macQ,that seems a very unfair comment,
You first said it was “uncharitable”. And it was. Intentioanlly.
Er… Pope Francis has been very clear on many other things, has done great things for the Church, wrote a great encyclical, and has re-affirmed much Church teaching to the world.
