In mid-90s, Pope connected marriage crisis with homosexuality

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Dakota_Roberts said:
It’s not illegal if the government legislates it.
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It may be legal, but it is still stealing. Consider all that the United States legally took from Native Americans and other land grabs by the federal government, even for military purposes. Stealing nonetheless.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
So the Nazis slaughter of Jews wasn’t illegal, because the government made it legal.:rolleyes:

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Technically speaking, if wasn’t against the law, it’s not illegal. Abortion is legal in this country.
 
A reminder
The core issue is the mortal nature of sexual sins. When discussing this and arguing about these issues, it may help to remember you are arguing for their soul whether they know it or not.
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Hell exists, and we could fall into it. At Fatima, Our Lady taught us this prayer: “O my Jesus, forgive us, deliver us from the fire of hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those who are most in need.” There are important things in this world, but there is nothing more important than to merit Heaven by living well. It is not only Fatima that says so, but the Gospel: “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?” (Matthew 16:26)
Cardinal Luciani (the future Pope John Paul I) said this on July 11, 1977 after a visit to Sister Lucia."

fatima.ageofmary.com/hell/

“More souls go to Hell because of the sins of the flesh than for any other reason.”*

This is a sobering thought for a believer.
 
qui_est_ce said:
Didn’t the Palestinians get paid for their land?
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Indubitably the Israelis duly compensated the Palestinians whose land they seized at gunpoint.
JimR-OCDS said:
So the Nazis slaughter of Jews wasn’t illegal, because the government made it legal.:rolleyes:

Jim
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Well speaking legally yes, and it wasn’t legally murder either, nor is abortion legally murder. Of course under divine law they are still quite guilty
 
qui_est_ce said:
What were the Romans doing while they paid the Barbarians to fight their wars for them?
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The Romans required mercenaries to maintain order because their Empire was too large for Roman forces alone to control. Nothing to do with morality.
qui_est_ce said:
What was Nero doing with little boys and teen-agers while Rome was burning?
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I’d hardly consider the Great Fire of Rome to be an example of its decline or fall anymore than I’d consider the wildfires raging in the West to herald the end of the United States.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
The Romans required mercenaries to maintain order because their Empire was too large for Roman forces alone to control. Nothing to do with morality.
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You still haven’t answered the question.
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qui:
What were the Romans doing while they paid the Barbarians to fight their wars for them?
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Rome had become so soft it couldn’t even defend it’s city’s borders against the invaders.

But maybe you can answer this, were they using the Barbarians to conquer Gaul, Germanica, and Britannica?
I’d hardly consider the Great Fire of Rome to be an example of its decline or fall anymore than I’d consider the wildfires raging in the West to herald the end of the United States.
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Obviously not from the martyrs’ perspective.

Rome was saturated with blood lust and sex lust. That was it’s downfall.
 
qui_est_ce said:
Didn’t the Palestinians get paid for their land?
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Payment doesn’t mean that the land wasn’t stolen. If the person owning the land didn’t have it for sale, being paid for it doesn’t wipe out the fact it is still theft, although legal theft.

If a woman has a man force himself on her & then he leaves her a couple bucks after the fact, does that mean she’s a prostitute?
 
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