In the Footsteps of St. Dominic - Exploring Dominican Spirituality

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It threw me for a loop, the first time I read it. And the second. And the third. It’s something that gets drilled into us a lot of the time, “be actively conscious with what you’re doing” and “make sure you are not doing things for the sake of doing things”, to the point of when we aren’t thinking/acting in that fashion we begin to worry if we’re doing things right.

Then I got thinking; this isn’t about that. Instead, it’s about how there’s some things which if we no longer need to actively think about, it frees us up to communicate with God. If something becomes as natural as breathing, we no longer need be concerned. It also points us towards not over thinking things.

I’ll share more later, once work settles down.

I find this section is applicable to all Rules, including those who are professed members of secular orders.
My spiritual director has me reading the “Screwtape Letters” by C.S. Lewis in which consists of the correspondence between an experienced demon and an novice demon who has just been giving a young man into his care. In the context I copied and pasted below (yay, no typing!), the “Enemy” refers to God. The experienced demon is giving the novice advice on how to distract the young man while he is praying.
If this fails, you must fall back on a subtler misdirection of his intention. Whenever they are attending to the Enemy Himself we are defeated, but there are ways of preventing them from doing so. The simplest is to turn their gaze away from Him towards themselves. Keep them watching their own minds and trying to produce feelings there by the action of their own wills. When they meant to ask Him for charity, let them, instead, start trying to manufacture charitable feelings for themselves and not notice that this is what they are doing. When they meant to pray for courage, let them really be trying to feel brave. When they say they are praying for forgiveness, let them be trying to feel forgiven. Teach them to estimate the value of each prayer by their success in producing the desired feeling; and never let them suspect how much success or failure of that kind depends on whether they are well or ill, fresh or tired, at the moment.
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So I would agree that we can often get caught up in the little things and it is a wonderful thing when those things become automatic.
 
I have recently read quite a bit of threads about temptation and struggling with sin.

I happened to come upon this passage about St Catherine of Siena, a lay Dominican who lived in the fourteenth century, and thought I’d put it in this thread, since we’re discussing Dominican spirituality.
St. Catherine of Sienna, that favorite spouse of our Blessed Lord, who bore in her body the stigmata or marks of the Sacred Wounds, was at one time of her life subject to the most violent temptations of Satan. That wicked spirit, envious of the angelic purity of her soul, was wont to fill her mind with filthy imaginations, and to assail her heart with the most impure temptations. Unceasingly did she call on God for help, but she seemed to receive no answer. Her mind was obscured with frightful darkness, and she seemed on the very brink of the precipice. Often, indeed, she was unable to distinguish between temptation and consent, but an invisible hand always preserved her from falling. Upon one occasion after the temptations had ceased, our Blessed Lord came to visit her, filling her with heavenly consolations. “Ah, my Divine Spouse,” she cried out, “where wast Thou when I lay in such an abandoned and frightful condition?” “I was with thee,” he replied. “What,” said she, “in the midst of the filthy abominations with which my soul was filled?” “Yes,” answered our Lord, “for these temptations were most displeasing and painful to thee. By fighting against them thou hast gained immense merit, and the victory was owing to my presence.” Thus did St. Catherine learn that God is never nearer to us than when we appear the most abandoned, and that He is never wanting to those who call upon Him with humility and confidence.–Butler’s Saints’ Lives.
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It threw me for a loop, the first time I read it. And the second. And the third. It’s something that gets drilled into us a lot of the time, “be actively conscious with what you’re doing” and “make sure you are not doing things for the sake of doing things”, to the point of when we aren’t thinking/acting in that fashion we begin to worry if we’re doing things right.

Then I got thinking; this isn’t about that. Instead, it’s about how there’s some things which if we no longer need to actively think about, it frees us up to communicate with God. If something becomes as natural as breathing, we no longer need be concerned. It also points us towards not over thinking things.

I’ll share more later, once work settles down.

I find this section is applicable to all Rules, including those who are professed members of secular orders.
It makes sense to me.

For adults, learning can be broken down into four stages.

Unconcious Incompitence: this is someone who is incompitent, but they are unconcious of their incompitence. They are about to start something new, but are unaware of the enormity of what they are about to learn. The fifteen year old who is about to get behind the wheel for the first time is one example. The example I like to use is someone who is going skiing for the first time. They are excited about going skiing, and they know they have never skied before, but they don’t really understand the ammount of skill required and the time it takes to learn. They are unconcious of their true level of incompitence.

Concious Incompitence: This is the stage of learning where a person realizes what they don’t know. It is the point of greatest anxiety, and also the point of greatest learning. This is where most people’s eye’s glaze over in class because they are overwhelmed with the material and realize the enormity of what they have to learn. Using the skiing example, put that same unconciously incompitent person on the slope, strap the skiis to their feet, put the poles in their hand, and within about thirty seconds they will be truly humbled. They will be fully concious of their own incompitance. They don’t know how to ski, and boy do they know it as they slip and slide all over the place, unable to even stop themselves from sliding down the hill.

Concious Compitence: This is the stage of learning where the person knows what they are doing - compitence, but they have to think about every move - conciousness. Taking the skier again, after a while they are moving dow the slopes in a relatively controlled manner, but they have to think about where they plant the pole, the angle of the ski, and are concious of every move they make, thinking each one through before they make the move.

**Unconcious Compitence: **This is someone who does not have to think about what they do before they do it. This is Michael Jordan going for a layup. This is Tiger Woods on the putting green. This is someone pulling out in front of you after you have been driving for thirty years - you step on the brake, turn the wheel, reacting but not having to think about it first. This is me operating a manual transmission after 30 years of shifting up and down, literally millions of times. :rolleyes: This is a mature Christian, who is insulted, and immediately starts praying for the person who insults him, without having to remind himself to do so and fight his own desire to lash out.

When I read, “The rule allows us not to think about life”, I immediately thought of unconcious compitence. In “Praying with Benedict”, Korneel Vermeiren explains how prayer becomes a state, not an act, that one is in a constant state of conversation with God, without having to stop and think about whether they are praying or not.

Not having to think about what you are going to wear tomorrow is freedom. That’s why I lay out my clothes the night before. A monk is going to wear his habit. He doesn’t have to think about it. I also put out whatever is needed to make my breakfast in the morning, put my bible on the table to read, etc. It’s freedom, one less thing to think about. I have no idea if it is Dominican or not. 🤷

Sorry for rambling about nothing. 😊

-Tim-
 
Unconcious Compitence: This is someone who does not have to think about what they do before they do it. This is Michael Jordan going for a layup. This is Tiger Woods on the putting green. This is someone pulling out in front of you after you have been driving for thirty years - you step on the brake, turn the wheel, reacting but not having to think about it first. This is me operating a manual transmission after 30 years of shifting up and down, literally millions of times. :rolleyes: This is a mature Christian, who is insulted, and immediately starts praying for the person who insults him, without having to remind himself to do so and fight his own desire to lash out.[/INDENT]

-Tim-
I totally agree with you that unconscious competence sounds exactly like what it is being described in the book, although I’m not so sure that there isn’t always conscious thought that goes into praying for someone who insults you.

Somewhere in the mind, there has to be a thought that says, “Okay, instead of getting mad, I’m going to pray for this person.” The act of choosing good over evil and choosing to humble oneself, I believe is a conscious act. It takes more effort for some than others. This brings me to an interesting point in the book which I will discuss in the next post.
 
From the Dominican Life book,

Ha ha. I had to laugh at this paragraph.😃
The Rule is there to become boring and the second thing the Rule does (and this is so important) is that it irritates. Of course it irritates! How many people do not at least once a week get annoyed by having to go to Lauds at 5:50 am? Just think about it. You do not have to be here. You could be in an apartment. You could be reading the New York Times, having a nice cup of Starbucks coffee. You could be having your own lifestyle, but here you are again and sister gets the notes wrong again and these people are not awake and somebody did not brush after coffee. Of course it’s irritating.
The following really spoke to me:
…that very irritation is you and I being stretched. The potency of the Office, the potency of the Mass, the potency of the Chapter, the potency of the common meal, all of these reach their height, they are most powerful when you do not want to be there, but you go. It is when we do not want to go but we make the act of disposing ourselves and make the choice to to confront all the impulses to the contrary and say, “I am going”.
 
I really want to hear your thoughts on when he talks about “the Rule allows you not to think about life”. I spent a lot of time reflecting on what he had to say on that.
So, I have thought about this a little more.

The Rule allows you to automate those things which we do not need to be focused on . Once those things become a regular part of life, these ordinary things began to affect our lives. The author says,
Once you are freed from self-consciousness, and labor, these gestures and words and actions that make up life according to the Rule, have the power to be formative. It is the impact of the ordinary which works like the grass growing. It is happening all the time and you do not know it, just by living your life.
I don’t know. Just some thoughts I have been thinking about.
 
The Feast of St. Dominic is my birthday…😃

I’m forever indebted to the Dominicans, as their Priests were responsible for bringing me back into the Catholic Church during my college years…The Dominicans used to run the Newman Center at the University I attended.
 
The Feast of St. Dominic is my birthday…😃

I’m forever indebted to the Dominicans, as their Priests were responsible for bringing me back into the Catholic Church during my college years…The Dominicans used to run the Newman Center at the University I attended.
Awesome!

Does a Newman center stand for something specific? There is a Newman center at my daughter’s Domnican-run college too.
 
Jwinch and Melchior, thanks again for the recommendation of Dominican Life. I’m still reading it, but I love it.

Even though it is addressed to Religious, it’s honesty and realness has been a real blessing in my life this past week.

I would love to start a thread, maybe in the spirituality forum, on some of the things discussed in there, but I fear there wouldn’t be much interest. 😦
 
Jwinch and Melchior, thanks again for the recommendation of Dominican Life. I’m still reading it, but I love it.

Even though it is addressed to Religious, it’s honesty and realness has been a real blessing in my life this past week.

I would love to start a thread, maybe in the spirituality forum, on some of the things discussed in there, but I fear there wouldn’t be much interest. 😦
And not just for Dominicans either, I find the commentaries can be applied to any Rule. It definitely highlights how the Dominicans are essentially mendicant monastics, because both Franciscans and Benedictines could read this book and get a lot out of it.

I can’t stress enough how after I was able to wrap my head around the concept of how “the Rule lets you not think about LIFE” was liberating.

If you start a thread in spirituality, I’ll contribute!
 
The Rule is there to become boring and the second thing the Rule does (and this is so important) is that it irritates. Of course it irritates! How many people do not at least once a week get annoyed by having to go to Lauds at 5:50 am? Just think about it. You do not have to be here. You could be in an apartment. You could be reading the New York Times, having a nice cup of Starbucks coffee. You could be having your own lifestyle, but here you are again and sister gets the notes wrong again and these people are not awake and somebody did not brush after coffee. Of course it’s irritating.
Oh man, when I went on vocations retreat at the monastery, one of the first things were told by the vocations director was that we had better use mouthwash or brush our teeth before we went into choir with the monks, especially at 4:00 AM prayers.

Brother told us how much the monks hate it when someone comes into the choir with garlic breath or some other foul stench, stands behind them and starts belting out chants right behind them. Brother said, “They are gonna come complain to me, and I’m gonna tell them to just use their daggers!”

-Tim-
 
Oh man, when I went on vocations retreat at the monastery, one of the first things were told by the vocations director was that we had better use mouthwash or brush our teeth before we went into choir with the monks, especially at 4:00 AM prayers.

Brother told us how much the monks hate it when someone comes into the choir with garlic breath or some other foul stench, stands behind them and starts belting out chants right behind them. Brother said, “They are gonna come complain to me, and I’m gonna tell them to just use their daggers!”

-Tim-
Ha ha. They keep it real at that monastery. 😛
 
My spiritual director has me reading the “Screwtape Letters” by C.S. Lewis in which consists of the correspondence between an experienced demon and an novice demon who has just been giving a young man into his care. In the context I copied and pasted below (yay, no typing!), the “Enemy” refers to God. The experienced demon is giving the novice advice on how to distract the young man while he is praying.

So I would agree that we can often get caught up in the little things and it is a wonderful thing when those things become automatic.
I love Lewis, and this makes total sense.
I happened to come upon this passage about St Catherine of Siena, a lay Dominican who lived in the fourteenth century
The only layman who is a Doctor of the Church, also happened to be a member of the Third Order of Saint Dominic. That must account for something.
 
And not just for Dominicans either, I find the commentaries can be applied to any Rule. It definitely highlights how the Dominicans are essentially mendicant monastics, because both Franciscans and Benedictines could read this book and get a lot out of it.

I can’t stress enough how after I was able to wrap my head around the concept of how “the Rule lets you not think about LIFE” was liberating.

If you start a thread in spirituality, I’ll contribute!
Awesome!
 
Awesome!

Does a Newman center stand for something specific? There is a Newman center at my daughter’s Domnican-run college too.
A Newman Center is often the name of the Catholic campus ministry on many campuses around the United States and the world. It is named so in honor of the late, Blessed Cardinal John Henry Newman. They have been around for many years.
 
A Newman Center is often the name of the Catholic campus ministry on many campuses around the United States and the world. It is named so in honor of the late, Blessed Cardinal John Henry Newman. They have been around for many years.
Thank you! Do you know what the connection is between Blessed John Newman and campus ministry?
 
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