Inappropriate Christmas toys?

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Happy New Year all! This past Christmas, it came to my attention that Curious George is considered racist, and baby dolls are considered sexist? I could certainly be behind the times regarding this, and wondered what others thought.
 
Personally, I think political correctness has gone too far when Curious George can be labeled racist and baby dolls considered sexist. My little niece, who is Hispanic/African American/French Creole/Native American, etc. loves both and I do not think there is anything at all wrong with either one.

Just my :twocents:

P.S. (I could go on a rant about this but doing so is counter-productive and apt to lead me to being uncharitable, so I will keep the rest of my opinions to myself.)
 
Silliness. Those are fine toys - millions of kids have been delighted to find them under their Christmas trees.
 
Happy New Year all! This past Christmas, it came to my attention that Curious George is considered racist, and baby dolls are considered sexist? I could certainly be behind the times regarding this, and wondered what others thought.
:banghead: i say just get the kids some toy guns…
What happened to the days when toys didnt have a sinister meaning but were just that - toys?
 
:banghead: i say just get the kids some toy guns…
What happened to the days when toys didnt have a sinister meaning but were just that - toys?
Getting them toy guns is too much a concession to the hippy dippy liberal PC nazis, get them real guns.
 
Getting them toy guns is too much a concession to the hippy dippy liberal PC nazis, get them real guns.
😃 I thought I was the only one that ever used the term ‘hippy dippy liberal’ ! ! !

Way back in the ‘dark ages’ (the late 1940’s. '50’s, and early '60’s) I played with baby dolls and toy guns; wonder what makes me? :confused: :cool:
 
Happy New Year all! This past Christmas, it came to my attention that Curious George is considered racist, and baby dolls are considered sexist? I could certainly be behind the times regarding this, and wondered what others thought.
And the Smurfs are communists.
 
I don’t know much about the content of Curious George in the past (the original books, etc.) but the current TV show is absolutely harmless (except George should probably get some more discipline for the mischief he gets into, and why on earth does the Man in the Yellow Hat never learn that he shouldn’t leave his monkey alone?) My kids really like it and there’s usually some interesting math and science-related learning thrown in there, too.

Some dolls are pretty awful, but you can get a basic baby doll for not much money that can provide a LOT of playtime. My younger son likes to play with his older brother’s cloth doll (which is a bit of a “lovey” so my older son can be pretty possessive of it) so I am thinking of getting him his own. They like to put the doll down for naps, feed it with their play kitchen, and the other day I even heard my older son put it in time out (doing a shockingly good imitation of me, I might add. 😊)

There are a lot of awful toys, but I wouldn’t classify most of them as immoral. My husband and I put a box together of toys for donation from the boys’ Christmas gifts. I know the relatives who gave them were well-intentioned, but I am not willing to slowly lose my mind with the endless noise and corresponding battery-buying. 😉
 
And the Smurfs are communists.
Also profoundly sexist as the only female was created to trap the males.
I don’t know much about the content of Curious George in the past (the original books, etc.) but the current TV show is absolutely harmless (except George should probably get some more discipline for the mischief he gets into, and why on earth does the Man in the Yellow Hat never learn that he shouldn’t leave his monkey alone?) My kids really like it and there’s usually some interesting math and science-related learning thrown in there, too.

Some dolls are pretty awful, but you can get a basic baby doll for not much money that can provide a LOT of playtime. My younger son likes to play with his older brother’s cloth doll (which is a bit of a “lovey” so my older son can be pretty possessive of it) so I am thinking of getting him his own. They like to put the doll down for naps, feed it with their play kitchen, and the other day I even heard my older son put it in time out (doing a shockingly good imitation of me, I might add. 😊)

There are a lot of awful toys, but I wouldn’t classify most of them as immoral. My husband and I put a box together of toys for donation from the boys’ Christmas gifts. I know the relatives who gave them were well-intentioned, but I am not willing to slowly lose my mind with the endless noise and corresponding battery-buying. 😉
Obviously you should give your sons baby dolls too since you want them to be capable fathers involved in their childrens’ lives.

If you are going to get your daughters dolls go with Lottie dolls.
Lottie’s Key Features
Child-Like Body
Lottie’s body is based on the average proportions of a 9 year old girl, developed alongside academics in the areas of child psychology and nutrition. Lottie represents a healthy view on body image, and is a positive role model.
Age Appropriate
Lottie is all about doing many of the activities a real child her age would do, and is not concerned with growing up too quickly. Lottie doesn’t wear make-up, high-heels or jewellery.
Ethnically Diverse
Lottie dolls come in a range of diverse eye, hair and skin colours.
Relatable #justlikeme
Lottie wears the kind of clothes that kids wear in real-life, whether that is pretty party dresses, hard-wearing clothes and boots to get muddy outdoors, sportswear or fun dress-up costumes! Lottie is doing all the activities that ‘real’ kids do; be they ‘girly’ activities like ballet, or imaginary tea parties, getting muddy outdoors, being sporty and active, as well as robot- building projects, to stargazing and fossil-hunting. Imaginative dress-up play too, whether as a Queen or a pirate or superhero. Lottie represents all the positive, different facets of childhood, without limitation.
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Lottie’s hair is made from premium quality Saran, which has a wax component and a silky texture which means it does not tangle or knot. Lottie’s clothing is composed of tactile fabric, with great attention to detail, and has Velcro fastenings, easy to dress and undress.
Bendable Knees
Lottie encourages children to be active and outdoorsy, she has bendable knees, and ball socket hips and arms. Lottie’s head can move from side to side, and Lottie can do the splits, all of which help for gymnastics, karate and playing with friends.
She’s 18cm tall, and can stand on her own two feet
(always a useful life skill for all girls, big and small!)
Awards
Lottie has won 19 International awards, including 5 Oppenheim Toy Portfolio Platinum Awards.
tl;dr they are better dolls in every way.
 
Also profoundly sexist as the only female was created to trap the males.

Obviously you should give your sons baby dolls too since you want them to be capable fathers involved in their childrens’ lives.

If you are going to get your daughters dolls go with Lottie dolls.

tl;dr they are better dolls in every way.
Thanks for the info and your “endorsement”. I’ve been looking for dolls like those. 🙂
 
Happy New Year all! This past Christmas, it came to my attention that Curious George is considered racist, and baby dolls are considered sexist? I could certainly be behind the times regarding this, and wondered what others thought.
I did a bit of Googling and it seems that some scholars believe that the original Curious George books (written in France in the 1940s) might have been written as a metaphor for African Imperialism, where the Man in the Yellow Hat is a symbol for Britain. It’s a scholarly, literary theory but not a popular position…unless you have another resource to back it up? Or would we rather just continue to bash hippy dippy liberals? 😦
 
I did a bit of Googling and it seems that some scholars believe that the original Curious George books (written in France in the 1940s) might have been written as a metaphor for African Imperialism, where the Man in the Yellow Hat is a symbol for Britain. It’s a scholarly, literary theory but not a popular position…unless you have another resource to back it up? Or would we rather just continue to bash hippy dippy liberals? 😦
The Curious George racism concern came to my attention via a conversation with several others regarding what would be appropriate for Christmas toy gifts. Likely your google research produced the same results as mine- (the annotation above), as well as several Op-Ed columns and blogs (I did find where someone wrote their thesis on the subject!)
With author Rey deceased, it is conjecture/speculation that cannot be substantiated, which is why I asked for opinions rather than requesting non-existent supporting documentation. It was not my intention to encourage the bashing of anyone.
Personally, I loved the CG stories as a child, and shared them with my own children, who enjoyed them as well!
 
Happy New Year all! This past Christmas, it came to my attention that Curious George is considered racist, and baby dolls are considered sexist? I could certainly be behind the times regarding this, and wondered what others thought.
Years ago I had a cousin who was a teacher. Every year at our big Christmas party everyone would talk about what they got, or got for their kids for Christmas. No matter what we got our kids, she would tell us why it was wrong, harmful, negligent, racist, sexist, developmentally stunting, etc. The conversation would usually start with her saying, “Oh, so you’re trying to make your children gay / ruin your daughter’s self-esteem / perpetuate gender inequality / turn your kids into racist / make your kids stupid / ruin any chance they have at success?” The list went on and on. Occasionally we’d play a variant of the game where she’d ask us if we’d gotten the kids one of the things she was opposed to at other times, or really lavish, expensive gifts that weren’t age appropriate or she knew we couldn’t afford. Then her line of questioning would be along the lines of why we were abusing our kids, neglecting them, making them the laughingstock of their peer groups, etc. The bottom line is that some people are idiots. If you’re not abusing your kids, it’s none of their business. Curious George isn’t racist, baby dolls aren’t sexist and SpongeBob won’t turn your kids gay (it has been scientifically proven, though, that Bratz dolls will cause your daughters to get tattoos and become teenage mothers).
 
With author Rey deceased, it is conjecture/speculation that cannot be substantiated, which is why I asked for opinions rather than requesting non-existent supporting documentation. It was not my intention to encourage the bashing of anyone.
Personally, I loved the CG stories as a child, and shared them with my own children, who enjoyed them as well!
Sorry, my tone was more reacting to the others who jumped onto the bashing bandwagon. It seems like we can be a little short on charity and kindness on these forums (surprising for a Catholic group) and in this case I was just as guilty. I’m sorry about that.

It is an interesting theory, though it seems like kind of a stretch!
 
I know it’s a little late for this thread, but here’s an idea for next year. I think the American Girls dolls would make nice gifts. They portray all races (I think), even though they’re called “American.” I can’t see that there could possibly be anything “wrong” with these. They’re historical, and teach moral lessons (the books). Unless culture seems to be against morality now. I know they have a wide variety of them. I find it a little odd that these politically correct radicals think the least little thing is so “harmful”, yet they don’t bat an eye over the violent video games, movies, etc. They’re so anti-violent, and yet the violence is all we see in this so-called entertainment. If they’re going to be that d*mned fussy about it, just don’t give a gift at all, that’s what I say.
 
Years ago I had a cousin who was a teacher. Every year at our big Christmas party everyone would talk about what they got, or got for their kids for Christmas. No matter what we got our kids, she would tell us why it was wrong, harmful, negligent, racist, sexist, developmentally stunting, etc. The conversation would usually start with her saying, “Oh, so you’re trying to make your children gay / ruin your daughter’s self-esteem / perpetuate gender inequality / turn your kids into racist / make your kids stupid / ruin any chance they have at success?” The list went on and on. Occasionally we’d play a variant of the game where she’d ask us if we’d gotten the kids one of the things she was opposed to at other times, or really lavish, expensive gifts that weren’t age appropriate or she knew we couldn’t afford. Then her line of questioning would be along the lines of why we were abusing our kids, neglecting them, making them the laughingstock of their peer groups, etc.
Good God!!! I hope that wasn’t taking the Lord’s name in vain, but really! These kind of people need to quit being so ignorant and obsessed with what culture thinks and give a little thought to the God they don’t want to believe in. Really!…is all I can say to this.
 
Sorry, my tone was more reacting to the others who jumped onto the bashing bandwagon. It seems like we can be a little short on charity and kindness on these forums (surprising for a Catholic group) and in this case I was just as guilty. I’m sorry about that.

It is an interesting theory, though it seems like kind of a stretch!
No worries my friend, I am enjoying the spirited debate and good-natured tom foolery!
 
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