Incorrupt saints

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Is St. Thomas Aquinas incorrupt?

Padre Pio?

St. Aloysius Gonzaga?

Also would an incorrupt saint be necessarily holier than partly incorrupt saints (St. Gemma’s heart, St. Anthony’s tongue, etc.) and not incorrupt saints?
 
7rosario said:
Is St. Thomas Aquinas incorrupt?

Padre Pio?

St. Aloysius Gonzaga?

Also would an incorrupt saint be necessarily holier than partly incorrupt saints (St. Gemma’s heart, St. Anthony’s tongue, etc.) and not incorrupt saints?
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Can’t answer your questions about those saints but I can say that the body of St. Catherine Laboure, Daughter of Charity and mystic, remains incorrupt. She had multiple visions of Mary, Mother of God, and she is best known, perhaps, for the devotion of the Miraculous Medal, honoring Our Lady’s Immaculate Conception. If I recall correctly, the Church gives no greater weight to the sanctity of individuals whose bodies remain incorrpt.
 
7rosario said:
Is St. Thomas Aquinas incorrupt?

Padre Pio?

St. Aloysius Gonzaga?

Also would an incorrupt saint be necessarily holier than partly incorrupt saints (St. Gemma’s heart, St. Anthony’s tongue, etc.) and not incorrupt saints?
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No, on all 4 counts.
Ste. Therese de Lisieux was not preserved incorrupt, and yet she is a doctor of the Church. St. Teresa of Avila, another doctor, has remained incorrupt, though.
 
Spirithound said:
No, on all 4 counts.
Ste. Therese de Lisieux was not preserved incorrupt, and yet she is a doctor of the Church. St. Teresa of Avila, another doctor, has remained incorrupt, though.
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Three of the No’s I agree with. For Padre Pio I think its not yet known as his body has not been exhumed to check.
 
catharina said:
Can’t answer your questions about those saints but I can say that the body of St. Catherine Laboure, Daughter of Charity and mystic, remains incorrupt. She had multiple visions of Mary, Mother of God, and she is best known, perhaps, for the devotion of the Miraculous Medal, honoring Our Lady’s Immaculate Conception. If I recall correctly, the Church gives no greater weight to the sanctity of individuals whose bodies remain incorrpt.
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St. Bernadette, who is honored today on the Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes, is incorrupt.

I am especially interested in hearing from some Protestants on why they think some of the saints are incorrupt. Do non-CAtholics believe this is the work of the devil? while I am sure that most non-Catholics would affirm that we are all destined for incorruptibility, the context in which this often happens (veneration of Our Lady) is one that seems excessive to many non-Catholics.
 
Daniel_Marsh said:
some bog bodies are also incorrupt.
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No - the bog bodies are preserved by chemicals in the soil. Rather like mummies are preserved through either the substances used in their embalming or basically dried out like beef jerky by the hot dry climate.

The difference with those saints who are incorrupt is that no outside agent, chemical, human, or whatever, accounts for their preservation.
 
Joe_5859 said:
The Incorruptibles by Joan Carroll Cruz
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I was just about to recommend this book too… it is well worth reading. The author has researched over 100 saints for the book. There are many amazing stories told but Joan Carroll Cruz’s research makes them very convincing. This is one of my favourite ‘strange’ topics- so I’m glad to see a thread about it!
 
RevDrNorth said:
Is the body on the book Bernadette?

members.chello.nl/~l.de.bondt/bernadetteEng.htm
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You might be correct. It so resembles Catherine Laboure in her garb as a “Seminary Sister” (novice) that I still think it might be Catherine. However, Catherine died as quite an old woman - although she was buried in the habit of her Seminary year since the visons took place when she was in the Seminary and still very young. Please let us know if you learn definitively. Thank you.
 
God works different signs and miracles through different saints. 🙂
 
catharina said:
You might be correct. It so resembles Catherine Laboure in her garb as a “Seminary Sister” (novice) that I still think it might be Catherine. However, Catherine died as quite an old woman - although she was buried in the habit of her Seminary year since the visons took place when she was in the Seminary and still very young. Please let us know if you learn definitively. Thank you.
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The photo on the cover of the book is indeed St. Bernadette. There is a chapter on St. Catherine Laboure, too, and it has pictures of her, but those are on the inside of the book. 😉
 
Joe_5859 said:
The photo on the cover of the book is indeed St. Bernadette. There is a chapter on St. Catherine Laboure, too, and it has pictures of her, but those are on the inside of the book. 😉
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Joe - in honor of both Catherine and Bernadette, MERCI!
 
indeed they are incorruptibles, but does that mean that they are of GOD’s automatically?
 
AAC08 said:
indeed they are incorruptibles, but does that mean that they are of GOD’s automatically?
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If they led a holy Christian life…(and these did) the why would anyone surmise differently?
 
On the scale of signs for the consideration for canonization, I think incorruptibility ranks low. A holy life, or a life of heroic virtue is much higher on the scale. I also do not think that incorruptibility is considered as a miracle (there has to be proof of one or two miracles in order to canonize a saint).

Still, it seems very interesting that pretty much all the cases of incorruptibility occur in very holy people.

God bless,
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Most of the Incorruptibles did not undergo any preservation ??? So what makes you think that they are truly “incorruptible”? I’ve seen the so-called “Incorruptibles” and they don’t seem very “incorruptible” to me. Whether they’ve “leatherized” or had wax treatments and airtight tombs (like Bernadette Soubirous), they are very much decaying. All one has to do is take them out of their environments and leave them untouched and we’ll see how truly corruptible they are. Btw, long periods of light decay isn’t uncommon and isn’t reserved for Catholic “saints” alone, so to use them as if to imply evidence of Catholic truth proves nothing of the kind.
 
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