India's mass sterilisation drive

[anthony022071]

With video.

bbc.com/news/world-asia-31721797

India is expected to overtake China to become the most populous country in the world in the next five years.

Even with a fast growing economy, the challenge of providing education and employment to a growing population of more than one billion remains steep.

For decades, one solution has been a massive sterilisation programme run from makeshift medical camps across the country.

Operating conditions are often very poor but demand is rising, driven by cash incentives from the state.

 

[Tigg]

“Hundreds of people have been killed during sterilization, citing government data on payouts to victims who have died. …that is a gross underestimate of the actual number of deaths.”

How unconscionable to offer money and just where is this money coming from? It would be interesting to find out how many “social justice” groups are behind this incentive. (Please note the quotes.)

cnn.com/2014/11/11/world/asia/india-sterilization-deaths/

 

[Tigg]

Well, why is this no surprise?

PRI has numerous documents which demonstrate unambiguously that America’s foreign aid agency USAID has underwritten such camps in India for decades. They also establish that the agency – in concert with a host of American charity groups, India’s biggest bank and private funders like **Bill and Melinda Gates **– has been the primary architect and a major overseer of the country’s state-run population control.

lifenews.com/2015/01/13/united-states-is-funding-sterilization-camps-targeting-women-in-india/

 

[ucfengr]

With video.

bbc.com/news/world-asia-31721797

India is expected to overtake China to become the most populous country in the world in the next five years.

Even with a fast growing economy, the challenge of providing education and employment to a growing population of more than one billion remains steep.

For decades, one solution has been a massive sterilisation programme run from makeshift medical camps across the country.

Operating conditions are often very poor but demand is rising, driven by cash incentives from the state.

Wait until they figure out the cost of providing elder care and retirement benefits to an aging and shrinking population.

 

[Exiled_Child]

Excellent post, anthony022071. Yes, China’s population must actually be shrinking, with their one child per couple law. I don’t know if the numbers actually bear that out…. I’m curious though, what do Catholics really believe regarding the planet’s carrying capacity? It would seem to be the touchiest of touchy subjects. I oppose abortion and mass sterilization, but I honestly don’t know what to think about carrying capacity. It is crystal clear to me though, that wealthy and powerful elitist interests are focused on decreasing third world populations by devious and underhanded methods. It seems to be blatant racism and murder, but is there also a hard truth that some of us are unwilling to face? This is a serious question, too, because I realize we’re subjected to all manner of political lies on a constant basis, and I honestly don’t know what to think……

 

[hamilte3]

I happen to run across the answer to your question in John Hardon’s Modern Catholic Dictionary although I don’t have original source. If you see his entry for the word “overpopulation” he says

“…The Church’s position is that “overpopulation” is a human construct; that the same divine providence that inspired the advances in science to increase human longevity will also ensure the means of sustaining the increased human family.”

Private opinion follows: I also think about the call of God to the religious life and the priesthood if better recognized would bring about more committed to the celibate lifestyle. Also, as population increases and advances are made, there tends to be decrease children. I’m not sure of the reasons for that there, but when your survival is less challenged by lesser economic challenges and lifestyle better suited for leisure, study and even contemplation you may have less reason to worry about procreation. And if we were better at sharing what we have with more people, the poor would also be in those situations.

In short, I really believe that population growth has factors that make a sort of plateau. These are my own personal thoughts as to how it is not a constant like has been so often touted. And with the theory that we will run out of resources: not a given as well. We can recycle, hydrogen combustion can make water that hadn’t previously existed: I really don’t think the problem has been thought out much in the last 100 or so years (or at least in the popular mind).

 

[Johann_du_Toit]

Excellent post, anthony022071. Yes, China’s population must actually be shrinking, with their one child per couple law. I don’t know if the numbers actually bear that out…. I’m curious though, what do Catholics really believe regarding the planet’s carrying capacity? It would seem to be the touchiest of touchy subjects. I oppose abortion and mass sterilization, but I honestly don’t know what to think about carrying capacity. It is crystal clear to me though, that wealthy and powerful elitist interests are focused on decreasing third world populations by devious and underhanded methods. It seems to be blatant racism and murder, but is there also a hard truth that some of us are unwilling to face? This is a serious question, too, because I realize we’re subjected to all manner of political lies on a constant basis, and I honestly don’t know what to think……

Well, the biggest population growth has been on poor countries amongst people with little education. The Church has stated that if these poor communities had more economic development and education, the birthrate would fall accordingly. They have lots of kids because the chances of a child in a third world country to reach adulthood (due to poverty, starvation, lack of medical care) is significantly less than in the West.