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WatchfulPilgrim
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I tried asking this in another thread but it was somewhat off-topic and I didn’t even get a response.
One scripture and one thought repeatedly come to mind when I consider the idea of an infallible earthly authority (aside from the Bible):
The Scripture is this: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Paul’s statement here definately seems to dispel the idea that he is or is part of an infallible magisterium. If even Paul is capable of preaching “another gospel” in stands to reason that a lineage within a church organization is not a guantee of infallibililty.
And my thought is this: When Jesus was amongst us there was no one between He and common man - no one to help explain things. And at times people did misunderstand Him. Many times people simply walked away because His were “hard sayings”. Considering this, I tend to believe that the discontinuity within Christendom arises from our inability or unwillingness to believe and/or obey what is contained within Scripture. Man sees what he wants to see and hears what he wants to here. “He who has ears to hear let him hear…” Of course these thoughts can equally apply to the Catholic Church in her claims. Perhaps those from the outside are the ones not “seeing”.
But Paul did not consider it impossible for him to preach another gospel. People failed to understand or obey God even when He walked this earth. The fact that the gospels were written at all indicates some concern that the truth might be lost had they not written them **3It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
4That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed. **Scripture also says error and deception will arise from within and there will be (or would be) a great falling away. It does not say when this will or did happen. So although it seems good and necessary for there to be an infallible, earthly interpreter/authority, I also see the distinct possibility that God intended for Scripture to be that “certainy of those things” which, if looked at in humility and honesty can be believed, understood and obeyed sufficiently for our salvation.
Does this make sense? If not, what am I missing?
One scripture and one thought repeatedly come to mind when I consider the idea of an infallible earthly authority (aside from the Bible):
The Scripture is this: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Paul’s statement here definately seems to dispel the idea that he is or is part of an infallible magisterium. If even Paul is capable of preaching “another gospel” in stands to reason that a lineage within a church organization is not a guantee of infallibililty.
And my thought is this: When Jesus was amongst us there was no one between He and common man - no one to help explain things. And at times people did misunderstand Him. Many times people simply walked away because His were “hard sayings”. Considering this, I tend to believe that the discontinuity within Christendom arises from our inability or unwillingness to believe and/or obey what is contained within Scripture. Man sees what he wants to see and hears what he wants to here. “He who has ears to hear let him hear…” Of course these thoughts can equally apply to the Catholic Church in her claims. Perhaps those from the outside are the ones not “seeing”.
But Paul did not consider it impossible for him to preach another gospel. People failed to understand or obey God even when He walked this earth. The fact that the gospels were written at all indicates some concern that the truth might be lost had they not written them **3It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
4That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed. **Scripture also says error and deception will arise from within and there will be (or would be) a great falling away. It does not say when this will or did happen. So although it seems good and necessary for there to be an infallible, earthly interpreter/authority, I also see the distinct possibility that God intended for Scripture to be that “certainy of those things” which, if looked at in humility and honesty can be believed, understood and obeyed sufficiently for our salvation.
Does this make sense? If not, what am I missing?