Infallibly declared dogmas of the Catholic church

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Not precisely. To willfully deny dogmas is a sin. There is still invincible ignorance.
 
There is no ignorance in this case. Can a person who willfully rejects dogma still take holy communion?
 
Which dogma person doesn’t believe?
Why don’t he/she to understand it instead of rejecting?
 
Which dogmas is irrelevant. Rejecting is probably not the right term, it’s non belief.
The dogmas in question are understood.
 
I think the answer is yes. Recieving Communion while rejecting a dogma is a mortal sin.
 
That’s what I thought. It makes me very sad because I have to now leave the only faith I have ever known and find another denomination…
Very awkward but it looks like the Orthodox church is the one who will accept me.
 
I don’t want to get into the details of which dogmas and why as I often get hostile responses. But its basically the dogmas that “no direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from Scripture” according to articles on this very website. I’ve listened to the arguments for these but found them to be not very convincing.
Im not angry, just disappointed and sad.
 
I will refrain from turning this into a debate and simply wish you well, then. It seems you’ve made up your mind.
 
It seems to me that as long as you accept that The Church is what it claims to be, then there is no reason to leave it. Have you lost faith in Catholicism in general just because of one (or multiple) canon statements that you don’t find agreeable? For me, I don’t have every one memorized, but if I’ve never heard of it it isn’t a matter of whether it’s right but how it’s right. Maybe you should talk to your priest about it.
 
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I haven’t made up my mind that I want to leave, in fact I don’t want to leave. To be honest its the practice of Marian devotion which I find unbelievable. The arguments used by Catholics are made to use against protestants and I don’t find them to be very convincing. I get very hostile responses, people will often call me a heretic or a blasphemer which is why im hesitant to mention this.

I could just go along and say I believe but I’d be lying to myself and to God. My priest did actually say to me that Im not obliged to pray to Mary and that I was still a Catholic so…
Asking God for guidance I get the feeling that praying to anyone else is idolatry. Several bible verses come to mind that tell me it’s not right. Anyway I don’t know, im a bit lost at the moment and trying to find the way.
 
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No, they should not- it might not be salvific in their case. Only real exception is if someone outside communion with Catholic Church receives Catholic Eucharist for just reason and is allowed so by Canon Law (for example, Eastern Orthodox Christians have this privilege while still denying some Papal dogmas). One has to absolutely believe every dogma concerning Eucharist, though.

If you want to convert to Orthodoxy, my guess is that you do not believe in Papacy. Scripture-wise, Papacy can be proven as much as historically.

Marian Devotions are not enforced, you do not need to take that path- I myself have problems with Marian Devotions in a way that I am just not comfortable with them, despite respect and love I have for our Blessed Mother, I am simply not used to praying to (through) Mary neither am I able to focus on such prayer. However, that does not make things illegitimate. Orthodox Church also practices Marian Devotions by the way.
Anyway I don’t know, im a bit lost at the moment and trying to find the way.
I will pray you find it, and find whatever God wants you to find.
 
My priest did actually say to me that Im not obliged to pray to Mary and that I was still a Catholic so…
Fairly enough. But why do you have a problem with asking a saint to intercede for you. Mary is not God, or “a God” and no one asks you to treat her in that way. But rather as a very special saint.
 
I haven’t made up my mind that I want to leave, in fact I don’t want to leave. To be honest its the practice of Marian devotion which I find unbelievable. The arguments used by Catholics are made to use against protestants and I don’t find them to be very convincing. I get very hostile responses, people will often call me a heretic or a blasphemer which is why im hesitant to mention this.

I could just go along and say I believe but I’d be lying to myself and to God. My priest did actually say to me that Im not obliged to pray to Mary and that I was still a Catholic so…
Asking God for guidance I get the feeling that praying to anyone else is idolatry. Several bible verses come to mind that tell me it’s not right. Anyway I don’t know, im a bit lost at the moment and trying to find the way.



 
But why do you have a problem with asking a saint to intercede for you.
Answering that will only lead to a debate. U know my reasons and I know your explanations.
If one of those explanations end up being incorrect then we will be condemned.
However there is no risk of any wrong doing if we pray to God.
No, they should not- it might not be salvific in their case. Only real exception is if someone outside communion with Catholic Church receives Catholic Eucharist for just reason and is allowed so by Canon Law (for example, Eastern Orthodox Christians have this privilege while still denying some Papal dogmas). One has to absolutely believe every dogma concerning Eucharist, though.

If you want to convert to Orthodoxy, my guess is that you do not believe in Papacy. Scripture-wise, Papacy can be proven as much as historically.

Marian Devotions are not enforced, you do not need to take that path- I myself have problems with Marian Devotions in a way that I am just not comfortable with them, despite respect and love I have for our Blessed Mother, I am simply not used to praying to (through) Mary neither am I able to focus on such prayer. However, that does not make things illegitimate. Orthodox Church also practices Marian Devotions by the way.
Thanks. Perhaps I am being dramatic thinking about joining another church…
 
There are different degrees of belief. Are you a Protestant convert? I am, and although I don’t have trouble with the dogmas of Mary, I do with the dogmas of confession. You can struggle with a belief and still believe. I would say as long as you don’t say they are absolutely not true, you have an acceptable level of belief. And those dogmas require no action. I go to confession every month, sometimes every week, even if I have no grave sins. I absolutely detest going, and am not even sure it’s necessary. But I believe Jesus is in charge of His church and he has spoken through Her and made His will known.
 
It is not only the irreformable that Catholics are responsible to assent to.

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Professio fidei (1998):
I, N., with firm faith believe and profess each and everything that is contained in the Symbol of faith, namely:

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

With firm faith, I also believe everything contained in the word of God, whether written or handed down in Tradition, which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, sets forth to be believed as divinely revealed.

I also firmly accept and hold each and everything definitively proposed by the Church regarding teaching on faith and morals.

Moreover, I adhere with religious submission of will and intellect to the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops enunciate when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act.
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...c_con_cfaith_doc_1998_professio-fidei_en.html
 
To be honest its the practice of Marian devotion which I find unbelievable.
You are not required to practice any Marian devotion; those are not Dogma. You are required to assent to the Marian Dogmas (Divine Motherhood, Immaculate Conception, Perpetual Virginity, and Assumption) even if you don’t understand why they are true (not saying you don’t understand what they are, just maybe not why they are true). In my mind it comes down to whether you believe that Church has the authority to declare Dogma or not.
 
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