Infertility

[Teakafrog]

I tried the guiafenesin. Couldn’t tell too much difference. Apparently it works for some people, and doesn’t really have any side effects, so I’d say give it a shot. Couldn’t hurt.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I am a highly mucous producing individual. (Like I have to wear panty liners bad.) Is this a bad thing? I thought mucous was a sign of fertility.

I guess too much would make “swimming” a difficult sport for our husband’s troops, is that what this is about? I have heard about it, but thought, heck at least I have mucous, some women don’t produce much at all. Now I am both and :blushing:.

I take that G medicine (sorry can’t spell it) when I get bronchitus. (About 3 - 4 times a year or so.) Is that bad?

 

[dkoinzan]

I am a highly mucous producing individual. (Like I have to wear panty liners bad.) Is this a bad thing? I thought mucous was a sign of fertility.

Mucous is a good thing. I had fertile mucous for the entire cycle and we couldn’t find the peak time. There is suppose to be a balance. Mucous can be a sign of how the hormones are working or not working. At the time when I had all this fertile mucous we didn’t want to achieve pregnancy because of the recent deathes of our two unborn children. There should be a pattern to the mucous or the hormones aren’t working correctly which would mean that some part of your body isn’t well. Right now we are looking at a hormone imbalance that has something to do with thyroid. Charting has helped me to see that the thyroid is part of the problem. My core temp. is to low and that is showing up on thanks to Naprotechnology.

 

[Convert_in_99]

Convert in 99;2410527:

I am a highly mucous producing individual. (Like I have to wear panty liners bad.) Is this a bad thing? I thought mucous was a sign of fertility.

Mucous is a good thing. I had fertile mucous for the entire cycle and we couldn’t find the peak time. There is suppose to be a balance. Mucous can be a sign of how the hormones are working or not working. At the time when I had all this fertile mucous we didn’t want to achieve pregnancy because of the recent deathes of our two unborn children. There should be a pattern to the mucous or the hormones aren’t working correctly which would mean that some part of your body isn’t well. Right now we are looking at a hormone imbalance that has something to do with thyroid. Charting has helped me to see that the thyroid is part of the problem. My core temp. is to low and that is showing up on thanks to Naprotechnology.

Thanks for sharing. I am glad it’s not a bad thing. I am so sorry you have to struggle with this. Prayers for you and your husband.

 

[Convert_in_99]

Convert in 99;2410527:

I am a highly mucous producing individual. (Like I have to wear panty liners bad.) Is this a bad thing? I thought mucous was a sign of fertility.

Mucous is a good thing. I had fertile mucous for the entire cycle and we couldn’t find the peak time. There is suppose to be a balance. Mucous can be a sign of how the hormones are working or not working. At the time when I had all this fertile mucous we didn’t want to achieve pregnancy because of the recent deathes of our two unborn children. There should be a pattern to the mucous or the hormones aren’t working correctly which would mean that some part of your body isn’t well. Right now we are looking at a hormone imbalance that has something to do with thyroid. Charting has helped me to see that the thyroid is part of the problem. My core temp. is to low and that is showing up on thanks to Naprotechnology.

Thanks for sharing. I am glad it’s not a bad thing. I am so sorry you have to struggle with this. Prayers for you and your husband.

 

[dkoinzan]

Thanks for sharing. I am glad it’s not a bad thing. I am so sorry you have to struggle with this. Prayers for you and your husband.

Don’t feel sorry for the struggles. I am thankful God counts me worthy to suffer. I am growing in faith. It isn’t fun and I would love to let this cup pass but, it’s not bad to suffer heartache. If this is what I need to go through for my sanctification, then so be it. Over and over again I have had the penence of saying, “Sacred Heart of Jesus make me a saint.” I know without a shadow of a doubt that I can’t make it into heaven without suffering. There is no Saint that has never suffered, so I am in good company and I am full of joy. There are a lot of people I would like to ask Jesus to shower with graces and through suffering I can do that. Looking back on the Mother’s Day when baby Theresa was born dead, I have never been so close to Jesus. You can’t imagine the peace when you just surrender it all. I was unimaginably sad, but there was such peace. I felt Christ in the room the night before I delivered her. I offered each hour of labor up for someone and I prayed all through the night and I was at peace. He gave me the striength and courage to get though the night. I know if he were not there, I would not have been able to bare to take the next breath. I am thankful for the chance to be so close to him although it took me giving birth to my daughter after she died.

God Bless!

 

[dkoinzan]

Anyone know anything about thyroid disfunction? I am now charting with Napro and temperature charts for thyroid. I was taking it all in stride until I noticed my hair is getting really thin. Yesterday I had a handful in the shower. I have searched the web, but there is just to much information. They think the tyroid thing came on as a result of stress. Looking at all the web inforamtion isn’t going to help the stress part.

 

[Chovy]

Anyone know anything about thyroid disfunction? I am now charting with Napro and temperature charts for thyroid. I was taking it all in stride until I noticed my hair is getting really thin. Yesterday I had a handful in the shower. I have searched the web, but there is just to much information. They think the tyroid thing came on as a result of stress. Looking at all the web inforamtion isn’t going to help the stress part.

I have a thyroid issue diagnosed by PPVI (t3/t4 ratio is off) and one of the biggest signs I had was hair loss. It started last summer and I was really stressed. Are they having you take your temperature for 2 weeks of a cycle now?

 

[dkoinzan]

I have a thyroid issue diagnosed by PPVI (t3/t4 ratio is off) and one of the biggest signs I had was hair loss. It started last summer and I was really stressed. Are they having you take your temperature for 2 weeks of a cycle now?

My ratio is also off. I have many of the other symtoms especially the mental health ones, but up until the last two weeks hair loss was not a problem. Please tell me it comes back. Sometimes I wonder if I am loosing my mind. All my family and friends think that it is early menipause and I know it isn’t. If I could just focus and be less irratible. I really don’t want to loose my hair. They have me taking my temperature, but it seem that they want me to take it for two months. I am wondering if I will have hair then. Maybe I just need to make a call to the PPVI.

 

[Chovy]

My ratio is also off. I have many of the other symtoms especially the mental health ones, but up until the last two weeks hair loss was not a problem. Please tell me it comes back. Sometimes I wonder if I am loosing my mind. All my family and friends think that it is early menipause and I know it isn’t. If I could just focus and be less irratible. I really don’t want to loose my hair. They have me taking my temperature, but it seem that they want me to take it for two months. I am wondering if I will have hair then. Maybe I just need to make a call to the PPVI.

I’d call them and ask if they’ll look at the temps you have, and explain the hair loss. Maybe they can help. Mine has definitely improved.

 

[Convert_in_99]

My ratio is also off. I have many of the other symtoms especially the mental health ones, but up until the last two weeks hair loss was not a problem. Please tell me it comes back. Sometimes I wonder if I am loosing my mind. All my family and friends think that it is early menipause and I know it isn’t. If I could just focus and be less irratible. I really don’t want to loose my hair. They have me taking my temperature, but it seem that they want me to take it for two months. I am wondering if I will have hair then. Maybe I just need to make a call to the PPVI.

I have heard several symptoms of thyroid problems. They run in my family. I, myself, have struggled with them on and off.

There are two types as far as I know Hypo- and Hyper- Thyrodism. Hair loss would fall more into Hypo-thyroidism. Fertility trouble, menstrual trouble would also fall more into Hypo-Thyroidism. One of the biggest signals to Hypo-Thyrodism is weight gain. Muscle and joint pain, swelling, mood swings, depression, and other psychological disorders also fall into Hypo-Thyroidism.

Does this help some? This is probably not even close to what you were looking for. I would take Chovy’s advice. She’s a smart woman. Also, see your doctor.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I could use some advice from you all.

Most of you have suffered through this fertility problem longer than me, and I am just wondering if it gets better with time.

Right now I am in the stage where I cry off and on all day. Whenever I am not busy enough to think, but sometimes even that doesn’t work cause I get too sick to to work around the house and am stuck in quiet rest. But its awful cause I don’t rest, I just cry. I cry whenever I see a family, a baby, or even just pass the baby section at walmart or target. It’s gotten so bad that my husband will try to steer around it so I don’t have a breakdown. He just reassures me it will happen one day, somehow, but it’s not enough. I cry when I see the families at church. My husband and I go to the least crowded mass to avoid it, but I still see families, children, babies. It’s more than I can bear. I cry when I see families in public.

Does it ever get better? It seems like its only getting worse, with no relief in sight. My family is far away. This is not a good town to make friends. We had to move to the “ritzy stuck up” section of town for physical safety. They are not people that are friendly to “poor, simple” people like us. We are far from poor, but there’s just no other explination in this case.

My husband is trying to get us back home but it could take anywhere from 2-5 years. Possibly more. He has even offered that I go stay with my family for a couple of months, but I can’t leave him that long. He’s at a loss of what else to do to help me. Frankly, so am I.

Any suggestions?

You are all so kind. I pray for you all. God bless and keep you and yours.

 

[SeekerJen]

I could use some advice from you all.

Most of you have suffered through this fertility problem longer than me, and I am just wondering if it gets better with time.

((((((Convert in 99)))))))

It does get better, although you are in a tough situation. I think the year to 18-months infertility point was the roughest for me, although that was compounded by the miscarriage. I know that you have some severe health problems, but as you have seen, things are easier when you are busy, so keep busy as much as your health will allow. I also know what it’s like to be surrounded by those who are more financially well-off and like to flaunt it, but try and find a like-minded group of adults. If you have a hobby, see if there’s a related group in your area. Or if your parish has an active St. Vincent de Paul conference, maybe you could spend some time assisting them. These people help the truly poor, and in my experience are extremely welcoming of all who are willing to lend a hand to their work.

And you’re doing the right thing IMO by avoiding babies and baby stuff when possible. No sense in pouring salt in the wound. I couldn’t be around pregnant women or babies for several months without breaking down, and unfortunately everyone we knew was either pregnant or toting babies around, and they all wanted us to be around them, ooh-ing and ahh-ing. I have no problem doing that now, but two years ago it was, well, probably a bit of what Christ felt on the cross (nowhere close, I admit, but still awful).

I think the only way I truly got past this (besides keeping busy) was to keep praying for God’s will. In time I came to accept that His will for me probably doesn’t involve childbirth; rather, if we wish to parent children, we’re going to have to work harder for them (adoption) than most. I’m sure we’ll appreciate them that much more (not that parents who can bear children easily don’t appreciate their kids, but I imagine fertility can be taken for granted, just like anything else). Pray for God’s will, strength, patience, and grace. And don’t hesitate to ask the saints for their prayers as well. St. Elizabeth knows well the pain of infertility. St. Cecilia doesn’t, but she’s a powerful intercessor (my personal patroness) and I highly recommend asking her for prayers. The Blessed Mother must also share in our pain; she was only permitted to have one child, and then had to watch Him die.

God bless you and your husband. I’ll continue to pray for you both.

 

[Convert_in_99]

((((((Convert in 99)))))))

It does get better, although you are in a tough situation. I think the year to 18-months infertility point was the roughest for me, although that was compounded by the miscarriage. I know that you have some severe health problems, but as you have seen, things are easier when you are busy, so keep busy as much as your health will allow. I also know what it’s like to be surrounded by those who are more financially well-off and like to flaunt it, but try and find a like-minded group of adults. If you have a hobby, see if there’s a related group in your area. Or if your parish has an active St. Vincent de Paul conference, maybe you could spend some time assisting them. These people help the truly poor, and in my experience are extremely welcoming of all who are willing to lend a hand to their work.

And you’re doing the right thing IMO by avoiding babies and baby stuff when possible. No sense in pouring salt in the wound. I couldn’t be around pregnant women or babies for several months without breaking down, and unfortunately everyone we knew was either pregnant or toting babies around, and they all wanted us to be around them, ooh-ing and ahh-ing. I have no problem doing that now, but two years ago it was, well, probably a bit of what Christ felt on the cross (nowhere close, I admit, but still awful).

I think the only way I truly got past this (besides keeping busy) was to keep praying for God’s will. In time I came to accept that His will for me probably doesn’t involve childbirth; rather, if we wish to parent children, we’re going to have to work harder for them (adoption) than most. I’m sure we’ll appreciate them that much more (not that parents who can bear children easily don’t appreciate their kids, but I imagine fertility can be taken for granted, just like anything else). Pray for God’s will, strength, patience, and grace. And don’t hesitate to ask the saints for their prayers as well. St. Elizabeth knows well the pain of infertility. St. Cecilia doesn’t, but she’s a powerful intercessor (my personal patroness) and I highly recommend asking her for prayers. The Blessed Mother must also share in our pain; she was only permitted to have one child, and then had to watch Him die.

God bless you and your husband. I’ll continue to pray for you both.

Aww…thank you so much! You are a dear. I pray for you all too.

 

[aurora77]

It does get easier. I agree with Jen, avoid pregnant women and kids as much as you can. Don’t go by the baby section at Wal-Mart. Don’t do what I stupidly did and watch those baby shows on TLC.

How comfortable are you in your church? Do they have a women’s group or other groups, like a bible study that you could join? That really helped me tremendously. I just got so busy, between working, spending time with DH, and volunteering that I didn’t have time to obsess about our infertility.

This will sound crazy and contrary to what I said at first, but I was helped out a lot by teaching CCD. I’ve been doing that for two years now and really enjoy watching the kids learn and grow (I teach 3rd grade).

I spent a lot of time praying that God would show me His will for DH and I. I really, really tried not to dwell on how much I wanted to get pregnant, but rather, have the children that God intends for us to have, however that may happen. He chose a rather dramatic way to make His point, in our case.

I’m truly sorry you have this cross to bear. Just know that you don’t have to bear it alone!

 

[Convert_in_99]

It does get easier. I agree with Jen, avoid pregnant women and kids as much as you can. Don’t go by the baby section at Wal-Mart. Don’t do what I stupidly did and watch those baby shows on TLC.

How comfortable are you in your church? Do they have a women’s group or other groups, like a bible study that you could join? That really helped me tremendously. I just got so busy, between working, spending time with DH, and volunteering that I didn’t have time to obsess about our infertility.

This will sound crazy and contrary to what I said at first, but I was helped out a lot by teaching CCD. I’ve been doing that for two years now and really enjoy watching the kids learn and grow (I teach 3rd grade).

I spent a lot of time praying that God would show me His will for DH and I. I really, really tried not to dwell on how much I wanted to get pregnant, but rather, have the children that God intends for us to have, however that may happen. He chose a rather dramatic way to make His point, in our case.

I’m truly sorry you have this cross to bear. Just know that you don’t have to bear it alone!

Thank you so much. I am praying for you also. If you ever need anything you can count on me!

 

[Chovy]

Convert, it does get easier. I have other friends who have gone through this longing and despairing and most of them have had a family through birth or adoption and the pain is now not as bad. Or they have reached a point in their journey where they have accepted their roles as aunts, uncles or mentors to children as childless people.

The pain never completely goes away, but it is through that suffering that we are closest to Christ. As much as I wish that I had never gone through any of it, I am grateful that God loves me and thinks I am this strong. I used to be moved to tears at Supertarget (esp. one day when I saw a set of teenagers comparing their pregnant bellies), or when friends told me of their new babies. Now I am only suffering when I read the stories of young children being harmed by their parents or caregivers. They are innocent, and I am not, so it is unreasonable for me to think that I would have it easier than they.

 

[ravenclaw]

I wish I had found this site a very long time ago. I struggled with infertility. However, the reason I was infertile, was I had uterine cancer and precancerous cysts on my ovaries. I went through a long recovery period, physically and emotionally. My husband and I considered adoption but it seemed like obstacles kept popping up. My mom needed long term care for her alzheimer’s. However, I have been a teacher for the past 17 years, so I have been able to share my life with children. I also came from a large family, so I have many nieces and nephews too. So, even though I don’t have my own children, I have been luckily enough to spend a great deal of time with kids.

 

[dkoinzan]

Recently my friends and I went through the Women of Grace series. I was grieving the lose of our two babies. One friend has a four yr old that has heart failure. Only a miracle will save her child. Other older ladies also shared their heart aches over thier children they have buried over the coarse of their lives. What really was amazing was that we all discovered that we are all called to bring forth new life. Sometimes that life is physical and sometimes the life is spiritual. Women, by their design, are created to bring forth life. Our soals are stamped with that design and God will give you the children. Whether they be physical or spiritual is his choice. He placed each and every one of us here at this very moment for the salvation of the whole world! Just because you haven’t recieved a physical child doesn’t make you any less important in God’s design. I need to work harder to remember that!

 

[waitngnjyflhope]

Thank you for those words!! I needed that affirmation and renewal this evening