Infinite Regress: the one pathway to salvation

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It was stated by some Catholics on a different thread, that it is not a contradiction to say, concerning the way of salvation that,

A) Outside the Catholic church there is no salvation, and,

B) Jesus said, I am the way.

But there can’t be more than one way (to salvation) if there is ONLY one way. Do you think that there are two ways, or should we take the words of Jesus seriously? Or, to put it another way, if Jesus really meant to say that the Catholic church is the way, why did Jesus say that He is the only way?
 
It was stated by some Catholics on a different thread, that it is not a contradiction to say, concerning the way of salvation that,

A) Outside the Catholic church there is no salvation, and,

B) Jesus said, I am the way.

But there can’t be more than one way (to salvation) if there is ONLY one way. Do you think that there are two ways, or should we take the words of Jesus seriously? Or, to put it another way, if Jesus really meant to say that the Catholic church is the way, why did Jesus say that He is the only way?
Mick,

With all due respect, you’re being silly. 😃

The Catholic Church is the sole ark of salvation precisely because it is only by Jesus that we can be saved.

After all, salvation is being forgiven of sin and united with Jesus Christ-- sharing in His very divine life. But salvation is a corporate act, i.e., a bodily act. Salvation includes being incorporated into the body of Christ. For every Christian who is saved is saved by becoming a member of the body of Christ and remaining in the body of Christ; and the body receives salvation from the Head. Any limb cut off from the body dies. So it is that anyone cut off from the body of Christ too dies, separated from the life-giving Head.

(A) is simply a consequence or further aspect of the truth of (B).

God bless,
Rob
 
It was stated by some Catholics on a different thread, that it is not a contradiction to say, concerning the way of salvation that,

A) Outside the Catholic church there is no salvation, and,

B) Jesus said, I am the way.

But there can’t be more than one way (to salvation) if there is ONLY one way. Do you think that there are two ways, or should we take the words of Jesus seriously? Or, to put it another way, if Jesus really meant to say that the Catholic church is the way, why did Jesus say that He is the only way?
2 answers:
1: The Catholic Church IS the way of Jesus, is the way of salvation. No problem there.

2: The ‘invisible’ church is the only way to salvation. Anyone who follows Jesus and will be saved is in the invisible church. In fact, it is a contradiction in statements for someone to be saved and not be part of that invisible church.

Whatever ‘visible’ church (Catholic, Methodist, etc) they are a part of, anyone can be saved. Catholics believe it is much easier to be saved as a Catholic, as that’s the way that Jesus founded for us to be saved.
 
It was stated by some Catholics on a different thread, that it is not a contradiction to say, concerning the way of salvation that,

A) Outside the Catholic church there is no salvation, and,

B) Jesus said, I am the way.

But there can’t be more than one way (to salvation) if there is ONLY one way. Do you think that there are two ways, or should we take the words of Jesus seriously? Or, to put it another way, if Jesus really meant to say that the Catholic church is the way, why did Jesus say that He is the only way?
Jesus calls Himself the Way, and the Early Church also calls Herself the Way in Acts 19:9, 19:23, 24:14, and 24:22. Is there a contradiction there? Nope. Jesus calls persecution of the Church persecution of Himself in Acts 9:4. Paul calls the Church both the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:27) and the Holy and Blameless Bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:25-27). Jesus is the Way, and the Way He creates is the Church (cf. 1 Timothy 3:15, Matthew 16:17-19).

So now the question is, if there is only one Way, and Jesus created only one Church, how can you justify having more than one denomination? How can there be multiple Brides of Christ, Bodies of Christ, or Ways?
 
Mick,

With all due respect, you’re being silly. 😃

The Catholic Church is the sole ark of salvation precisely because it is only by Jesus that we can be saved.

After all, salvation is being forgiven of sin and united with Jesus Christ-- sharing in His very divine life. But salvation is a corporate act, i.e., a bodily act.
Hi Rob,

I disagree. I view salvation as a supernatural (spiritual) act of God. Salvation is also a gift from God, given to those that He has chosen.
Salvation includes being incorporated into the body of Christ.
I agree.
For every Christian who is saved is saved by becoming a member of the body of Christ and remaining in the body of Christ; and the body receives salvation from the Head. Any limb cut off from the body dies. So it is that anyone cut off from the body of Christ too dies, separated from the life-giving Head.
I think your very close to having it right. But I would word it like this:

Every Christian is saved by becoming united to Christ, and being united to Christ results in being part of the body of Christ, which is the church.
(A) is simply a consequence or further aspect of the truth of (B).
I disagree. There is nothing in the bible to suggest that there is any requirement to become Catholic (whatever that might mean) in order to become saved, and that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church.
 
2 answers:
1: The Catholic Church IS the way of Jesus, is the way of salvation. No problem there.
Hi Jerok,

I’m curious to know how you came to know that the Catholic Church IS the way of Jesus, is the way of salvation. Is it because the CC said so?
2: The ‘invisible’ church is the only way to salvation.
Jesus disagrees with you! Jesus said, “I am the way.” From this we can know that it isn’t an invisible church that saves souls; it is only the invisible God (in Christ) that saves souls.
Anyone who follows Jesus and will be saved is in the invisible church. In fact, it is a contradiction in statements for someone to be saved and not be part of that invisible church.
Agreed!
Whatever ‘visible’ church (Catholic, Methodist, etc) they are a part of, anyone can be saved. Catholics believe it is much easier to be saved as a Catholic, as that’s the way that Jesus founded for us to be saved.
The CC, has declared in various documents that outside of the CC there is no possibility to be saved. It is a contradiction to say that non-Catholics cannot be saved, AND that non-Catholics can be saved. Are Methodists Catholics?
 
Jesus calls Himself the Way, and the Early Church also calls Herself the Way in Acts 19:9, 19:23, 24:14, and 24:22. Is there a contradiction there? Nope.
Hi Belloc Fan,

I think it is more accurate to say that early Christians called themselves and considered themselves to be followers of “the way” meaning followers of Christ.
Jesus calls persecution of the Church persecution of Himself in Acts 9:4. Paul calls the Church both the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:27) and the Holy and Blameless Bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:25-27).
True. So far, so good!
Jesus is the Way, and the Way He creates is the Church (cf. 1 Timothy 3:15, Matthew 16:17-19).
These two passages don’t say anything about the way He creates.
So now the question is, if there is only one Way, and Jesus created only one Church, how can you justify having more than one denomination? How can there be multiple Brides of Christ, Bodies of Christ, or Ways?
I don’t understand your question. Are you making the assumption that different denominations = different bodies? If so, why would this assumption necessarily hold true in all cases? And how does a Catholic solve that particular problem?
 
Mick. Our fundamental theology is different. There is certainly nothing that teaches that all non-Catholics are going to hell. The Catholics that said that in the other thread either misspoke or what they said was taken out of context.
 
I disagree. There is nothing in the bible to suggest that there is any requirement to become Catholic (whatever that might mean) in order to become saved, and that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church.
Mick,

You may have cleaned up my discussion a bit. But at this point, the question is no longer substantive. I.e., we agree that there is no contradiction in, “Jesus is the sole way,” and “the Church is necessary for salvation.” We now must move on to a more important question: what Church did Jesus establish? In which Church is membership necessary? If you and I have agreed thus far, we will merely disagree on which Church we identify as the Church Jesus founded.

-Rob
 
Mick,

You may have cleaned up my discussion a bit. But at this point, the question is no longer substantive. I.e., we agree that there is no contradiction in, “Jesus is the sole way,” and “the Church is necessary for salvation.” We now must move on to a more important question: what Church did Jesus establish? In which Church is membership necessary? If you and I have agreed thus far, we will merely disagree on which Church we identify as the Church Jesus founded.

-Rob
Hi Rob,

It looks like we disagree on both. I disagree with you that the CC is necessary for salvation, and I disagree with your position that there is no contradiction in saying that “Jesus is the only way to salvation” AND, “the CC is the only way to salvation.”
 
Hi Belloc Fan,

I think it is more accurate to say that early Christians called themselves and considered themselves to be followers of “the way” meaning followers of Christ.
I think Acts 19:8-9 is pretty clear that “the Kingdom of God” and “the Way” were being used interchangably.

This is significant. If Jesus = the Way = the Church, there’s absolutely no contradiction between “no salvation outside the Church” and “no salvation outside of Christ.”
True. So far, so good!
Great!
These two passages don’t say anything about the way He creates.
Jesus says that “upon this rock,” He’s going to build His Church. We obviously think that the kepha (“rock”) refers to Simon, who He has just named Peter, or Kepha. But in any case, He makes it clear that the Church **isn’t **just “whoever follows Christ.” It’s rather, an actual entity, not just a “body of believers.” And the parable of the wheat and weeds (from Matthew 13) shows that the Church includes the saved as well as some unsaved. 1 Timothy 3:15 shows that the Church is a physical, existent entity which can be looked to for the Truth. If it were just “body of believers,” Paul would be telling Timothy to look to popular opinion amongst Christians, which has been wrong numerous times. After all, before Jesus creates His Church, He asks the question on popular opinion: “Who do people say that I AM?” The masses got it wrong.
I don’t understand your question. Are you making the assumption that different denominations = different bodies? If so, why would this assumption necessarily hold true in all cases? And how does a Catholic solve that particular problem?
I’m saying that the Body is a visible entity, not just a mass of people. And in John 17:20-23, Jesus makes it clear that this visible Body *can *split, but must not. We’ve disobeyed Jesus on this issue. Obviously, modern Protestants can’t be held responsible for the Reformation any more than modern Jews or Italians can be held responsible for the Crucifixion. But it remains a troubling schism which must be healed.

Certainly, there are those outside the visible bounds of the Church who are saved, just as there are probably some people we’ll see in Heaven we didn’t recognize as Christians on Earth. But everyone saved is saved through the Way, meaning both Jesus and His Body and Bride.

P.S. What is your denominational affiliation? That info. might be helpful, if you’re comfortable sharing.
 
Every Christian is saved by becoming united to Christ, and being united to Christ results in being part of the body of Christ, which is the church.
And conversely, when one is severed from the body, is one not also severed from Christ?
  1. If one who is united to Christ is necessarily (as a cause) incorporated in the Body then it is the case that one who is separated from the Body is not united to Christ
    for 2. if they were united to Christ then they would be incorporated in the Body.
I’m going to read your sentence, where you say “being united to Christ results in being part of the body of Christ” as meaning that being united to Christ is a sufficient condition for being in the Church.

If A, then B.
Not B.
Therefore, not A.
  1. If anyone is united to Christ, then that person is incorporated into the Body of Christ.
  2. But person X is not incorporated into the body of Christ.
  3. Therefore, person X is not united to Christ.
It seems to me that this holds. And the logic seems to be perfectly valid.

-Rob
 
I think Acts 19:8-9 is pretty clear that “the Kingdom of God” and “the Way” were being used interchangably.
It looks like we’ll just have to disagree on this point. I don’t think there is any reason to think that “the Kingdom of God” and “the Way” were being used interchangably here.
This is significant. If Jesus = the Way = the Church, there’s absolutely no contradiction between “no salvation outside the Church” and “no salvation outside of Christ.”
They are not being used interchangably. And I think you’ve skipped a critical step because you seem to take it for granted that “the Church” means the CC.
Jesus says that “upon this rock,” He’s going to build His Church. We obviously think that the kepha (“rock”) refers to Simon, who He has just named Peter, or Kepha. But in any case, He makes it clear that the Church **isn’t **just “whoever follows Christ.” It’s rather, an actual entity, not just a “body of believers.”
I didn’t understand this part. I’ve never denied that the body of believers is an actual entity. If you read all three biblical accounts of this particular dialogue you will find that Jesus begins in each of the three, by asking the disciples “who do men say I am?” Somehow, the RCC has taken the focus of this whole topic away from the identity of Jesus, and re-focused the topic on who Peter is!
And the parable of the wheat and weeds (from Matthew 13) shows that the Church includes the saved as well as some unsaved. 1 Timothy 3:15 shows that the Church is a physical, existent entity which can be looked to for the Truth. If it were just “body of believers,” Paul would be telling Timothy to look to popular opinion amongst Christians, which has been wrong numerous times. After all, before Jesus creates His Church, He asks the question on popular opinion: “Who do people say that I AM?” The masses got it wrong.
I disagree. The church consists only of the sheep who really do hear the voice of Jesus and really do follow Him. No unsaved church-going person is truly part of the body of Christ.
I’m saying that the Body is a visible entity, not just a mass of people. And in John 17:20-23, Jesus makes it clear that this visible Body *can *split, but must not. We’ve disobeyed Jesus on this issue. Obviously, modern Protestants can’t be held responsible for the Reformation any more than modern Jews or Italians can be held responsible for the Crucifixion. But it remains a troubling schism which must be healed.
Buildings and people are visible. The soul is invisible. No one except God can know which people are part of the church, which is the body of Christ.
Certainly, there are those outside the visible bounds of the Church who are saved, just as there are probably some people we’ll see in Heaven we didn’t recognize as Christians on Earth. But everyone saved is saved through the Way, meaning both Jesus and His Body and Bride.
I disagree. Jesus said, “I am the way.” If Jesus really meant, Both me and the church are the way", then Jesus would have said that.
P.S. What is your denominational affiliation? That info. might be helpful, if you’re comfortable sharing.
My local church is a non-denominational church. But that hardly matters to the current topic!
 
And conversely, when one is severed from the body, is one not also severed from Christ?
You are on the right track, but I would state it this way:

If a person could in fact be severed from Christ, then that person would also be severed from the body of Christ.
  1. If one who is united to Christ is necessarily (as a cause) incorporated in the Body then it is the case that one who is separated from the Body is not united to Christ
    for 2. if they were united to Christ then they would be incorporated in the Body.
Very close, but I think you have reversed the cause and the effect. I would say it like this:

If one who is united to Christ is necessarily (as a result of being united with Christ) incorporated into the Body then it is the case that one who is separated from the Body is not united to Christ.

For,
  1. if they were united to Christ then they would by that cause, experience the result, which is to become incorporated in the Body.
I’m going to read your sentence, where you say “being united to Christ results in being part of the body of Christ” as meaning that being united to Christ is a sufficient condition for being in the Church.
If A, then B.
Not B.
Therefore, not A.
  1. If anyone is united to Christ, then that person is incorporated into the Body of Christ.
  2. But person X is not incorporated into the body of Christ.
  3. Therefore, person X is not united to Christ.
It seems to me that this holds. And the logic seems to be perfectly valid.
I agree.
 
It looks like we’ll just have to disagree on this point. I don’t think there is any reason to think that “the Kingdom of God” and “the Way” were being used interchangably here.
Acts 19:8-9 says that “Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly there for three months, arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God. But some of them became obstinate; they refused to believe and publicly maligned **the Way. **So Paul left them. He took the disciples with him and had discussions daily in the lecture hall of Tyrannus.” Paul’s subject matter is specifically identified as the Kingdom of God, which is a term used throughout the New Testament for the Church – I assume we’re on the same page here, but if need be, I can provide you plenty of passages in which Jesus (in particular) uses this as a term for Church. The response of the people there is to malign “the Way.”

Acts 24:14 is even clearer: “However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers **as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. **I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets…” They’re calling the Way a “sect.” Which means that they’re obviously talking about the Church, rather than about Jesus Christ as a Man – it doesn’t make any sense to call an individual a sect.
They are not being used interchangably. And I think you’ve skipped a critical step because you seem to take it for granted that “the Church” means the CC.
Hopefully, I’ve answered your first point to your satisfaction. And yes, my position is that the Church is the Catholic Church. But I’m not just taking that for granted – I’m starting to prove the case by showing first, that the Church on Earth includes both wheat and weeds, before anything else I’ll say on the subject will make sense. We’re using the same word “Church,” but meaning different things.
I didn’t understand this part. I’ve never denied that the body of believers is an actual entity.
I suspected you were non-denominational, and was aware that there’s a pretty common view that “Church = collection of all the saved.” That’s not a Biblical concept, and I wanted to preempt it.

I don’t know what it means to say that “the body of believers is an actual entity.” I’m speaking of a *visible *entity, and if “Church” is nothing more than all the saved, wherever they may be, I don’t understand how that is visible at all, since only God knows our souls, as you’ve mentioned.
If you read all three biblical accounts of this particular dialogue you will find that Jesus begins in each of the three, by asking the disciples “who do men say I am?” Somehow, the RCC has taken the focus of this whole topic away from the identity of Jesus, and re-focused the topic on who Peter is!
We’re just following our Master. After Jesus asks this question, Simon responds (Matthew 16:16) “Thou art the Christ.” Thou, Jesus. And it’s Jesus who responds “Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona.” Thou, Simon Peter. So it’s Jesus who turns His attention from who He is to who Peter is. Can we be blamed for following Him?
I disagree. The church consists only of the sheep who really do hear the voice of Jesus and really do follow Him. No unsaved church-going person is truly part of the body of Christ.
This isn’t Biblical. Jesus makes it explicit that the Church on Earth consists of both the sheep and goats… or to use His actual analogy, wheat and weeds.

Matthew 13:24-29 “Jesus told them another parable: 'The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”

The explanation which Jesus provides in Matthew 13:37-43 makes it even clearer.

**Matthew 13:37-43 **“He answered, ‘The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they **will weed out of his kingdom **everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.’”

So at the Last Judgment, the damned will be weeded out of the Kingdom. Not prior to then. If the Kingdom on Earth is only the wheat, what are the harvesters weeding out?
Buildings and people are visible. The soul is invisible. No one except God can know which people are part of the church, which is the body of Christ.
Answered previously. Plus, 1 Timothy 3:15 instructs him to look to the Church. Which can’t be done if it’s the invisible soul, like you just proved. It has to be something visible.

[cont.]
 
I disagree. Jesus said, “I am the way.” If Jesus really meant, Both me and the church are the way", then Jesus would have said that.
He didn’t say “you’re persecuting Me and the Church” in Acts 9. And why should He? Insulting the Bride of Christ insults Him. He doesn’t distinguish between the two.

But in any case, Jesus is the Way. We must follow Jesus to get to Heaven. How do we follow Him? Is it enough to say “Jesus is a prophet of Allah,” as the Muslims do? Or do we need to follow Him by believing specific things about Him, and letting that faith transform our lives?
My local church is a non-denominational church. But that hardly matters to the current topic!
Fair enough - I just wanted to know where you were coming from. The early Reformers - Calvin, particularly - were really into the idea that outside of the Church, there is no salvation. Calvin’s little catechism for schoolchildren specifically instructs them on this. But since you’re not Reformed, that’s unlikely to matter much to you.
 
  1. if they were united to Christ then they would by that cause, experience the result, which is to become incorporated in the Body.
So you’re saying that:

(1) Anyone who is saved is in the Church. [We agree, by the way]
(2) By your own logic, anyone outside of the Church is not saved. Because if they were saved, they’d be in the Church – that’s (1).

Sounds like **you **believe that outside the Church, there’s no salvation as well. You don’t think Church means “Catholic Church,” of course, but you do hold to both John 14:6 and the notion that outside the Church, there’s no salvation. If you can do that without being accused of “infinite regression” or contradicting Scripture, why can’t we? If your position isn’t inconsistent with John 14:6, how is ours?

The only debate, then, is whether Church means a visible institution like the Catholic Church, or whether it means only an invisible group of people. That’s a debate worth having, but it’s got nothing to do with John 14:6.
 
It was stated by some Catholics on a different thread, that it is not a contradiction to say, concerning the way of salvation that,

A) Outside the Catholic church there is no salvation, and,

B) Jesus said, I am the way.

But there can’t be more than one way (to salvation) if there is ONLY one way. Do you think that there are two ways, or should we take the words of Jesus seriously? Or, to put it another way, if Jesus really meant to say that the Catholic church is the way, why did Jesus say that He is the only way?
Mick,
You are right, there is only one way to Heaven. Jesus set up his church to serve two purposes: to teach the way to salvation and to provide the grace giving sacraments to those that want them. Both are necessary to get to heaven in all but the most exceptional situations.

Why did God have to become incarnate in the first place? Wasn’t it because men relate better to men? And when Jesus had carried out both his teaching and his sacrificial roles, he left men to continue these until he comes again in glory.

I assume you have read the great commission given the 11 Apostles (the church at that time) in Matthew 28:18-20
Then Jesus approached and said to them, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age

This exactly what the Catholic Church has done for the last 2000 years. Think about that for a minute. He gave a specific group of men the mission of evangelizing, teaching and administering the sacraments and said he would be with them always , until the end of the age.

Now consider your local, non-denominational church. They would like to say that they too are covered by the same great commission. But truly, how can it be true? Do they teach the same truths that the Catholic Church teaches? Do they administer the sacraments with valid holy orders? Are they not in fact, usurpers, trying to peddle their own ideas and biblical interpretations as the truth? Sure, they are well meaning, but the fact is, in every instance where they deviate from the Catholic Church, they are teaching error. You may not accept this now, but it is the truth. Can you still go to heaven if you follow error? Perhaps, if the error is not too great. But the more fundamental problem when you separate yourself from the Catholic Church is that you also separate yourself from the sacraments, which are sources of God’s grace. In John’s Gospel, Jesus makes it clear that you can not have eternal life if you aren’t baptized (John 3: you must be born of water and spirit) and if you don’t partake of the eucharist (John 6, to gain eternal life, you must eat my body and drink my blood).

Mick,
It would certainly be in your best interest to check out a Catholic mass. It has 4 parts.
  • Introductory Rites: where we praise God and admit our sins
  • Liturgy of the Word: where we hear 4 bible readings and have them explained by the priest
  • Liturgy of the Eucharist, where we relive the pascal sacrifice and partake in the eucharst
  • Closing rghts: where we are sent off to serve God and each other
 
So you’re saying that:

(1) Anyone who is saved is in the Church. [We agree, by the way]
(2) By your own logic, anyone outside of the Church is not saved. Because if they were saved, they’d be in the Church – that’s (1).

Sounds like **you **believe that outside the Church, there’s no salvation as well.
No. I’m not in ANY WAY attributing the gift of salvation (or the lack of salvation) to a church. I’m attributing salvation to God through Jesus and Him alone, and one of the results of being united to Christ is being a part of the body of Christ.
You don’t think Church means “Catholic Church,” of course, but you do hold to both John 14:6 and the notion that outside the Church, there’s no salvation.
I have done my very best to explain that the biblical teaching is that salvation is ONLY by ONE WAY, and that is Jesus. I am rejecting the Catholic teaching that says, There is no salvation outside of the CC." I have said that it is a contradiction of Scripture to say that salvation is by Jesus AND the CC.
If you can do that without being accused of “infinite regression” or contradicting Scripture, why can’t we? If your position isn’t inconsistent with John 14:6, how is ours?
My position is the biblical one, and it is non-contradicting of Scripture, while your view is contradictory because there cannot be two ways to salvation if there is only one way.
The only debate, then, is whether Church means a visible institution like the Catholic Church, or whether it means only an invisible group of people. That’s a debate worth having, but it’s got nothing to do with John 14:6.
No, the debate I’ve been having here is about the contradictory CC position on two ways of salvation.
 
There is nothing in the bible to suggest that there is any requirement to become Catholic (whatever that might mean) in order to become saved, and that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church.
John 3:3-5 Jesus answered, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above…I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.”

Baptism is our entrance into the New, universal covenant in Christ and His Catholic Church.

John 6:53 Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life and I will raise him on the last day.

In order to receive the flesh and blood of the Son, you need the Catholic Church and her priests.

Luke 10:16 Speaking to the anointed leaders of the Church, Jesus said, “Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.”

If you reject the leaders of Christ’s Church, you can’t truly and fully claim to accept Christ. And all salvation is through Christ alone.

Matthew 16:19 I will give you [Peter] the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
 
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