Info on SDA (continued)

[CatholicLover]

yes but these are teachings of sabbatarians. not Seventh Day Adventist. which one of these propogates the scapegoat doctrine, or the cleansing of the sanctuary doctrine as taught in SDA? i am looking for one person that taught unique SDA doctrine prior to the 19th century. there have been sabbatarian off shoots granted. but no one has ever taught SDA doctrines before the 1800s. also one author of the SDA Churches take on daniel and revelation. pre 1800? Peace

I had assumed you were talking about the Seventh Day Sabbath when you asked the question. It wasn’t very specific and I did post to ask which doctrines you were asking about. Again, there were obviously no SDA writers prior to 1800s. I’m not sure what your point is here. Are you pointing out that the SDA understanding of these things is unique? Or are you implying that the person who writes their beliefs down the most often over the longest period of time is right. Perhaps both?

If you want to debate the scapegoat doctrine or cleansing of the sanctuary I’d be happy to do it. But let’s talk about content and the differences between Adventist and Catholic belief rather than trying to score cheap points asking questions you already know the answer to that are not relevant to the discussion anyway.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Richard:

You answer with the same old rhetoric. I feel very sorry for you especially that although you say that you listen to and follow the Word of God, you DO NOT. Your answer and comments to my posts show me ( and I’m sure others ) that you are telling Jesus what to say and what He means when He has said otherwise. Belive it or not, you are doing the work of and for the PRINCE OF LIES. He has dangled the bait before you and you have fallen lock, stock, and barrel for it. Your arrogance and belitteling manner in your comments and responses follow the pattern. May God have mercy on you. I will pray for you that you wake up and realize your error.

By the way, from your previous posts, I know exactly what you will say to this one.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem

Well, then I guess you know that I’m going to say that these again are hollow accusations. I have said before and say again, Show me were I am wrong. If you can do so through the bible alone, I will apologize. Your continued refusal to not show what it is you think that I am lying about only confirms to me that you see the truth in what I am saying and cannot show it. Jesus is comming back to this earth soon Javl. He is comming back for His church. That is “the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:17 And **everyone **in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

I really don’t care what you think of me Javl. I want you and everyone on this forum to be counted in that number.

 

[CatholicLover]

hello adrift, have you ever read the story, The Emporers New Clothes? get my drift? lol! peace

ROFLMBO haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

really glad you liked it me again! ive been having a ball here! and im just getting warmed up. i will continue this until victory is achieved or until i get back to hawaii. whichever comes first. hopefully when this thread gets filled up we can continue. i think we are all doing excellent. Peace

Hiya benedict:

thanks for your words, they’re appreciated. It does get a bit annoying, aggravating, and frustrating though in trying to dialogue with these SDA. I keep trying to tell them what I believe and why and they keep telling me I’m wrong and sinning! In other words, they aren’t interested in dialogue, they are more interested in judging you and getting you to believe in what they think is the truth.

I’ll give you the best odds possible that even if Jesus would tell them what He said and meant they would argue with Him and tell Him that He is wrong and sinning! Even though God gave us free choice to believe what we will, they do not hold to that.

Anyway, please take care of yourself. Thank you again for your words. God Bless and keep you my friend. I willl pray for you.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem

Do you see the condescension in your posts? This thread while once interesting and civil is becoming a sarcastic and insulting excercise in chest bumping.

The topics in this thread are certainly worthy of discussion and debate but shouldn’t it be civil discussion and reasoned debate?

 

[CatholicLover]

The SDA scapegoat doctrine is indeed interesting. Ellen White taught that the scapegoat in the O.T. is representative of Satan and that during the 1000 year reign of Christ in heaven, Satan will be banished to live all alone on the earth – with no humans. She also taught that Satan will have to bear the sins of the damned, just as Christ bore the sins of the saved.

and this my friend would make Satan a co- redeemer of sorts, would it not? and it is a clear denial, that Christ bore mankinds sin on the cross. Satan has no right to bear anything but the wrath of God. i understand the scapegoat teaching in the law of moses, but this is a very strange twist. so can you find anything me again, that would indicate this unique teaching of SDA was taught anywhere pre 1800? i just want ONE theologian who was teaching this. just ONE. the jepardy theme is playing in my head right now… peace

We don’t believe that Satan makes any atonement for our sins and we certainly don’t view him as a co-redeemer. The scapegoat doctrine is tied to our understanding of the heavenly sanctuary. I’ll post more about it tomorrow after a bit of sleep. I just realised the time.

 

[RonTheNewJew]

No one called anyone a pervert. Read carefully.
Richard Kastner asked for a scripture that he perverted.

I answered with a quote of the scripture and said this is the scripture you perverted. So NO ONE called anyone a pervert.

Hope that clears it up.

To your other point. Have you never heard of natural law? There are things that we know is wrong just because it is obvious or what is called natural. Hence, most of the commandments can be known without telling us directly. I know to kill is wrong to steal to be respectful, I didn’t need someone telling me that they were commanded by God.

I do hope you believe in the one about bearing false witness which is what you did when you accused someone of calling a person a pervert. I excuse you because I think you do not have a command of the English and the sentence was structured in odd way.

If I misread it, then my apology is offered. Thanks for letting me understand what was meant.

Natural law, in the hands of sinful human beings is, in my mind at least, not quite enough. In fact, I think that it is used by some people as a kind of pretext in order to make excuses for doing whatever they want just because it seemed the right thing to do. If I could, I would suggest that you might, for an example of someone who thought he “did the right thing at the time we acted,” to quote a man named James E. Files, go to website, www.jfkmurdersolved.com and click on both of the films where it says to, and listen to Jimmy tell his side of the story. It’s a very interesting site with much documented detail.

 

[Protestant101]

When the disciples came to Jesus, He said to them**:**
It is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given, because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Elijah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. (Matthew 13:10,11,13b,14,15)
Here is Deuteronomy 5:15 broken down for you. Moses said**:**

1. The Jews were slaves in Egypt.
2. The Lord brought the Jews out of Egypt in a show of His strength.
3. Therefore the Lord commanded the Jews to observe the Saturday Sabbath.

Here it is verbatim**:**
Remember that you [Jews] were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the [Saturday] Sabbath day. (Deut. 5:15)

None of what you said shows that the Sabbath was “Jewish” or “Mosaic.” It just doesn’t say that at all. Conversely, the Bible is clear in calling it “Sabbath of The Lord Thy God…”

Instead of isloating Deut 5:15 by itself; Catholics need to fall in line with the text, and show the context by also including verse 14:

Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of Jehovah your God. You shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger within your gates.
Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as Jehovah your God has commanded you.
Deu 5:14 But the seventh day shall be the sabbath of Jehovah your God. In it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your ox, nor your ***, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger inside your gates, so that your manservant and your maidservant may rest like yourself.

So we see that scripture in both Deut and Exodus calls it “Sabbath of the Lord Thy God.” Trying to cherry pick Deut 5:15 an twist it to somehow mean that the Sabbath was “Jewish” does not align well with what the text is actually telling us. The theme of redemption is the whole point of vs. 15. It has nothing to do with changing the Sabbath, or with it being only for a certain race. The Sabbath is for everyone. God’s Sabbath is the seventh day, according to the Bible.

 

[me_again]

Someone else aptly noted that he has never seen anyone change their mind as a result of an internet discussion.

Ellen White was unequivocally a false prophetess who lied to people, such as when she promised the Second Coming of Christ to her followers and told them that they would be translated instead of seeing death. They are all dead now.

It should be remembered that the devil is the father of lies and he is more crafty and adept at lying than his spiritual offspring. He was crafty enough to seduce Eve into bringing the entire human race down to his level of sin. He was also crafty enough to tantalize and seduce Ellen White with his lies, false doctrines and misinterpretations of the Word of God, which is exactly what he did with Eve when he quoted the scriptures to her. Today, the devil quotes the scriptures through Adventist lens.

Many SDA followers do not yet realize that they are part of a greater demonic plan to seduce humanity with lies and false doctrines. Out of the integrity of their hearts, many of them are deceived – and it is only the Holy Spirit that can awaken them out of the gooey demonic honey that thickens with the addition of false doctrines. Insulting an Adventist only perpetuates their mis-perception that they are or will be martyrs i.e. they have a martyrs complex e.g. Ellen White taught that the Pope will initiate a persecution of Adventist who go to church on Saturday.

The sweetness of the devil’s doctrine that was presented to Eve seemed right to her. The sweetness of the devil’s doctrine that was presented to Ellen White seemed right to her. There have been many spiritual casualties since those events, all borne of the devil.

This is a spiritual battle that cannot be won with wits or humor.

 

[Javl]

Well, then I guess you know that I’m going to say that these again are hollow accusations. I have said before and say again, Show me were I am wrong. If you can do so through the bible alone, I will apologize. Your continued refusal to not show what it is you think that I am lying about only confirms to me that you see the truth in what I am saying and cannot show it. Jesus is comming back to this earth soon Javl. He is comming back for His church. That is “the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:17 And **everyone **in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

I really don’t care what you think of me Javl. I want you and everyone on this forum to be counted in that number.

I and others have shown you time and again where you are wrong but you refuse and reject it. You keep coming up with your interpretation and perversion of scripture and keep claiming that it is the only correct interpretation, even though myriads of theologians and scholars disagree with you. You insist that you and you alone know best.

And truthfully, I agree with you. I don’t care what you and the other SDA think of me either.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem

 

[Richard_Kastner]

I and others have shown you time and again where you are wrong but you refuse and reject it. You keep coming up with your interpretation and perversion of scripture and keep claiming that it is the only correct interpretation, even though myriads of theologians and scholars disagree with you. You insist that you and you alone know best.

And truthfully, I agree with you. I don’t care what you and the other SDA think of me either.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem

Do you think that my interpretation of these scriptues is wrong Javl?

Originally Posted by Richard Kastner
Jesus is comming back to this earth soon Javl. He is comming back for His church.That is “the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:17 And everyone in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

 

[Javl]

Do you see the condescension in your posts? This thread while once interesting and civil is becoming a sarcastic and insulting excercise in chest bumping.

The topics in this thread are certainly worthy of discussion and debate but shouldn’t it be civil discussion and reasoned debate?

I see no condescensioon and it is no longer a debate but an arguement and prosylization by the SDA. I have tried to present my side of the story civilly but I keep getting told it is wrong and I am sinning. In other words I am being judged. I try and try to explain but I am insulted and vilified time and again. I have apologized but it seems apologies mean nothing. When you SDA resume the exchange of information without being judgemental,and listen, then, and only then, will we accomplish what is supposed to be taking place.

It is strange that I do not have this problem with any other Protestant or cultic, only with the SDA.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem

 

[Javl]

Do you think that my interpretation of these scriptues is wrong Javl?

Originally Posted by Richard Kastner
Jesus is comming back to this earth soon Javl. He is comming back for His church.That is “the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:17 And everyone in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Yes, such as your interpretation of Matt 16 is. That is NOT is not symbolic. It is to be taken literaly. Jesus was speaking only to Simon-Peter. He told him that from that point on he is to be the base for His establishing a Church. That is why Simon’s name was changed to Peter. And YES, Jesus is a rock. He is the rock of our faith and salvation. As that rock, which is used for building, he IS THE CORNERSTONE of His Church. In addition, as the base for Jesus’ Church, He also gave Simon-Peter the authority to bind and to loose. In other words He gave Simon-Peter the power and authority, as the visible head of His Church, to act in His name. The Church Fathers, scholars and theologians have known and understood this from the beginning.Only the SDA, Jack Chick. and Boetner, dispute this.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichim

 

[Javl]

Someone else aptly noted that he has never seen anyone change their mind as a result of an internet discussion.

Ellen White was unequivocally a false prophetess who lied to people, such as when she promised the Second Coming of Christ to her followers and told them that they would be translated instead of seeing death. They are all dead now.

It should be remembered that the devil is the father of lies and he is more crafty and adept at lying than his spiritual offspring. He was crafty enough to seduce Eve into bringing the entire human race down to his level of sin. He was also crafty enough to tantalize and seduce Ellen White with his lies, false doctrines and misinterpretations of the Word of God, which is exactly what he did with Eve when he quoted the scriptures to her. Today, the devil quotes the scriptures through Adventist lens.

Many SDA followers do not yet realize that they are part of a greater demonic plan to seduce humanity with lies and false doctrines. Out of the integrity of their hearts, many of them are deceived – and it is only the Holy Spirit that can awaken them out of the gooey demonic honey that thickens with the addition of false doctrines. Insulting an Adventist only perpetuates their mis-perception that they are or will be martyrs i.e. they have a martyrs complex e.g. Ellen White taught that the Pope will initiate a persecution of Adventist who go to church on Saturday.

The sweetness of the devil’s doctrine that was presented to Eve seemed right to her. The sweetness of the devil’s doctrine that was presented to Ellen White seemed right to her. There have been many spiritual casualties since those events, all borne of the devil.

This is a spiritual battle that cannot be won with wits or humor.

A good post me again.

Believe it or not, I am able to communicate much better with the Mormons, Jehovahs Witnesses, Christian Science, and other cultics than I can with the SDA.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Yes, such as your interpretation of Matt 16 is. That is NOT is not symbolic. It is to be taken literaly. Jesus was speaking only to Simon-Peter. He told him that from that point on he is to be the base for His establishing a Church. That is why Simon’s name was changed to Peter. And YES, Jesus is a rock. He is the rock of our faith and salvation. As that rock, which is used for building, he IS THE CORNERSTONE of His Church. In addition, as the base for Jesus’ Church, He also gave Simon-Peter the authority to bind and to loose. In other words He gave Simon-Peter the power and authority, as the visible head of His Church, to act in His name. The Church Fathers, scholars and theologians have known and understood this from the beginning.Only the SDA, Jack Chick. and Boetner, dispute this.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichim

Ok, I said

And everyone in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

You said that you disagree with this take, not because you have firm biblical teaching to the contrary, but because I disagree with your take on Matt. 16. I don’t know that sounds like a strange basis for your theology, but that aside. What do you think Isaiah 66:22-24 is saying? Do you think this is saying something other than “and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.” And if so, What?

 

[FidesSpesCarita]

Ok, I said

And everyone in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

You said that you disagree with this take, not because you have firm biblical teaching to the contrary, but because I disagree with your take on Matt. 16. I don’t know that sounds like a strange basis for your theology, but that aside. What do you think Isaiah 66:22-24 is saying? Do you think this is saying something other than “and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.” And if so, What?

It also says from one new moon to another, do you hold services on each new moon?

And if it is referring to the new jerusalem, what is your reasoning behind doing it NOW instead of THEN (which is not to say that I am condemning the practice, simply trying to understand your reasons/understanding).

Also, do you follow the other old testament commands? Stoning idolators and fornicators, abstaining from unclean foods, etc?

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[adrift]

Well, then I guess you know that I’m going to say that these again are hollow accusations. I have said before and say again, Show me were I am wrong. If you can do so through the bible alone, I will apologize. Your continued refusal to not show what it is you think that I am lying about only confirms to me that you see the truth in what I am saying and cannot show it. .

If you refuse to look, no one can show you. I am sure you feel you have shown us but we don’t see it. There has been no refusal to address what you say. That you do not accept is not that we do not speak the truth but that you do not receive it.

Jesus is comming back to this earth soon Javl. He is comming back for His church. That is “the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:17 And **everyone **in the new Jerusalem will keep the Sabbath.

You have a problem. You assume what is meant when Commandments are mentioned. This is the Greek word used.

entolwn
1785 entole {en-tol-ay’} from 1781; TDNT - 2:545,234; n f 1) an order, command, charge, precept, injunction 1a) that which is prescribed to one by reason of his office 2) a commandment 2a) a prescribed rule in accordance with which a thing is done 2a1) a precept relating to lineage, of the Mosaic precept concerning the priesthood 2a2) ethically used of the commandments in the Mosaic law or Jewish tradition

It has a much broader meaning than just the ten words.

I have already brought up that a week is not a universal concept. The work week starts on a Monday what then is the seventh day? When was the first day made? Do you believe God told Adam this is day three and four more days you are to rest and keep that count? I have already produced evidence that not everyone had a seven day week.
Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath? What is your understanding of what He meant? The Pharisees were concerned with the letter of the law and not the spirit. To insist that God meant one particular day is observing the letter. Peter was given the keys to heaven. You ignore the evidence of what Keys mean for a perverted interpretation. That does not change the truth. Time for God does not exist. There will be no Sabbath because there will be no time.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

It also says from one new moon to another, do you hold services on each new moon?

This is just a way of saying from month to month.

And if it is referring to the new jerusalem, what is your reasoning behind doing it NOW instead of THEN (which is not to say that I am condemning the practice, simply trying to understand your reasons/understanding).

Isaiah 66

22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

This whole chapter is dealing with the last days of earth and shortly after Jesus comming.
The answer to your question can be found in v. 24 that v. is saying that the Sabbath keepers, which is everyone, “shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me:” What does “transgressed against me” mean?

1Jn.3
4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

It’s sin, So the righteous go out to view the dead carcasses of those that have transgressed against God. Since these people are only Sabbath keepers, they are looking at the carcasses of those that violate the Sabbath command as well as all the other commandments. I don’t know I just think that I would prefer to be one of the ones viewing rather than one of those viewed.

Also, do you follow the other old testament commands? Stoning idolators and fornicators, abstaining from unclean foods, etc?
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I try. As far as stoning people, I think the police would froun on that practice. And we are to obey the laws of the land. As far as clean and unclean. Yes, I keep those laws.

By the way Isaiah 66 has something to say about this too.

Isaiah 66
16For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. (Fire is symbolic of judgement and you probably know what “his sword” means.)

Heb.4
12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

So, the people of God will be using the word of God to try and bring people back to keeping the commandments.

17They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Those that eat unclean food will be consumned along with the other transgressors.

 

[adrift]

If I misread it, then my apology is offered. Thanks for letting me understand what was meant.

Natural law, in the hands of sinful human beings is, in my mind at least, not quite enough. In fact, I think that it is used by some people as a kind of pretext in order to make excuses for doing whatever they want just because it seemed the right thing to do. If I could, I would suggest that you might, for an example of someone who thought he “did the right thing at the time we acted,” to quote a man named James E. Files, go to website, www.jfkmurdersolved.com and click on both of the films where it says to, and listen to Jimmy tell his side of the story. It’s a very interesting site with much documented detail.

I knew that you did not understand what was written. I thank you for your apology.
That was a hoot of a web site.
When Adam and Eve sinned they realized they were naked and hid from God. They knew this because of a natural instinct we all have for right and wrong. If you don’t have that instinct you are considered a psychopath.
Cain knew he did wrong because he killed his brother. It was a natural instinct. It is when we dull this natural instinct that we become the devils child.

 

[adrift]

Isaiah 66
22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

You find where the word Sabbath is and feel that is all you need. What does this Scripture mean? It is referring to a period of time. As I have already pointed out, there will be no time. God lives outside of time when we die and are worthy, we will join Him.

 

[adrift]

This is just a way of saying from month to month.

Yes as it was a way to say week to week.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

I have already brought up that a week is not a universal concept. The work week starts on a Monday what then is the seventh day? When was the first day made? Do you believe God told Adam this is day three and four more days you are to rest and keep that count? I have already produced evidence that not everyone had a seven day week.

So, you don’t know which day to fulfill your weekly mass obligation? Of coarse you do. It’s Sunday the day after Saturday which is the Sabbath day. Man has come up with all kinds of excuses not to do what God wants him to do. That doesn’t change a thing. The fact is that God along with all the physical things of the universe was creating the days. And the morning and eveningwere of the first day, second day etc. But the only ONLY one of these days that He blessed and sanctified was the seventh day Sabbath.

Genesis 2
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Ex.20
10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God

That day is Saturday.
Luke 23
52This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
53And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
55And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
56And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
Luke 24
1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

As these vs. show.

God created man on the sixth day. The very next day he entered Jesus’ rest. This implies much more than simply resting. It implies fostering a relationship with your God. When you say "It doesn’t matter which day you use for the Sabbath. You are in effect saying that God’s blessing doesn’t matter.

Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath? What is your understanding of what He meant? The Pharisees were concerned with the letter of the law and not the spirit. To insist that God meant one particular day is observing the letter. Peter was given the keys to heaven. You ignore the evidence of what Keys mean for a perverted interpretation. That does not change the truth.

Do you think that you can keep the spirit of the law and not keep the letter? How do you do that?

Time for God does not exist. There will be no Sabbath because there will be no time.

Isaiah 66

22For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

So Isaiah is mistaken?