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I have been attending Mass at 2 churches and reading everything I can get my hands on. (Just finished Surprised by Truth) including these forums 🙂

My question concerns which Church I should go to?
One church is …much more modern ( sorry unsure what to call it) the other is more traditional.
While the more modern one is closer to me I think I prefer the more traditional church . I dont want to do anything that would not be proper or missleading. I am unsure if or what questions I could or should ask either of the Priests concerning this.
I also want to avoid improper teaching if possible and I have read of that on this site, but being new its hard for me to discern 😦

What led me to the Catholic church to beguin with was the Eucharist.
My hope was to become confirmed and recieve it head covered, at an alter, on my knees OTT.
(I can see that is not likely to happen) I did not realize that it was unusualy not done now.

Please forgive my ignorance and if I have made a similar post as this is troubleing me!

I realize I have not been on this journy very long but I crave answers.

Thank you
 
IneedGod said:
What led me to the Catholic church to beguin with was the Eucharist.
My hope was to become confirmed and recieve it head covered, at an alter, on my knees OTT.
(I can see that is not likely to happen) I did not realize that it was unusualy not done now.

Please forgive my ignorance and if I have made a similar post as this is troubleing me!

I realize I have not been on this journy very long but I crave answers.

Thank you
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What is troubling you? The fact that you can’t receive kneeling and on the tongue or the fact that you are confused about which church to go to?
 
TrueLight said:
What is troubling you? The fact that you can’t receive kneeling and on the tongue or the fact that you are confused about which church to go to?
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Both really… Mostly I dont want to do the wrong thing by not going to a more modern church if that is what is right. However I love the beauty in an older church where there is NO question about it being Catholic.
 
IneedGod said:
Both really… Mostly I dont want to do the wrong thing by not going to a more modern church if that is what is right. However I love the beauty in an older church where there is NO question about it being Catholic.
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Go to whichever church it is more possible to fully be Catholic. You may receive COTT kneeling and no cleric may tell you otherwise.
 
What you should be searching for is a solid, orthodox Catholic parish that is obedient to the magisterium (teaching authority) of the Church. The manner in which our Lord is received is clearly of secondary importance. Both forms COTT/CITH are permitted. If you desire to know more about Catholicism, may I recommend that you obtain a copy of Catholicism for Dummies? It is an excellent, eminently readable book that will help to demystify the faith. I learn something about the faith each time I open it.
 
Go to the more traditional one, of course. Don’t show your support to the modernists by showing up at the ‘modern’ parish.
 
Good responses so far. The only caution that I would give in this regard is to be sure that the “traditional” parish is in full communion with Rome.
The best way to do this is to contact the Chancery and ask. If they say yes, then by all means go to that parish if you are so drawn.
If they say no it is not, then ask them where the nearest parish is that offers the EF (often called the TLM or traditional Latin Mass).

In regards to other things you have mentioned…Head coverings are entirely permissible in ANY parish to receive on the tongue and kneeling.
As to the possibility of receiving poor teaching in the more “modern parish”, the best guard against that is to do all that you can to teach yourself through the reading of the Catechism and, as necessary, other Church documents.

Hope this helps you some.

Peace
James
 
IneedGod said:
I have been attending Mass at 2 churches and reading everything I can get my hands on. (Just finished Surprised by Truth) including these forums 🙂

My question concerns which Church I should go to?
One church is …much more modern ( sorry unsure what to call it) the other is more traditional.
While the more modern one is closer to me I think I prefer the more traditional church . I dont want to do anything that would not be proper or missleading. I am unsure if or what questions I could or should ask either of the Priests concerning this.
I also want to avoid improper teaching if possible and I have read of that on this site, but being new its hard for me to discern 😦

What led me to the Catholic church to beguin with was the Eucharist.
My hope was to become confirmed and recieve it head covered, at an alter, on my knees OTT.
(I can see that is not likely to happen) I did not realize that it was unusualy not done now.

Please forgive my ignorance and if I have made a similar post as this is troubleing me!

I realize I have not been on this journy very long but I crave answers.

Thank you
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You would not be doing the wrong this by going to a church which is further away 🙂

I receive on the tongue, but my knees are too old to get back up easily after I kneel 😦

And a warm and hearty welcome!

ETA You can receive OTT anywhere–the preist may talk to you about it, but you are totally permitted to receive that way. You are also permitted to receive kneeling anywhere, but some priests will be quite unhappy about that (Some are very concerned about uniformity and time). As it seems that you will not be receiving for a while, it might be a good idea to make friends with your priest. I think our priest would like to have us all kneeling at a rail, but there are so many elderly people it would be impractical to suggest.
 
ING,

First, let me say I’m so glad you’re exploring the Catholic Faith founded by Our Lord and I’ll remember you in my prayers tonight.

You’ll find that not all Catholic parishes (that’s what we called a local church and its community) practice and preach what the Church teaches, because some of them have really compromised with the secular world. Don’t be discouraged, Our Lord said that the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church.

My fiancee always receives Holy Communion kneeling, on the tongue, and covers her head, no matter how modern the parish is, and you are free to do the same. She says sometimes people give her nasty looks and sometimes someone comes up and says they find it inspiring, but she mostly like it when nobody notices because she does it for God. I’m sure you’ll find your experience is something like that.

As for your reading list, do you have a copy of the Baltimore Catechism #3? (in case you don’t know, a catechism is a book summarizing the teaching of the faith with brief explanations) There are many but I think the Baltimore one is the best for ordinary folks like you and me.

Also, I encourage you to explore traditional private devotions like the Rosary, and learn why the Church believes that to keep Christ in the center we ought to have the highest regard for his mother.

God bless and I’ll be praying for you.
 
Thankyou!
Catholicism for dummies is on my reading list as is the catachism. I have a Rosary and a pamplet to guide me in praying it. Some one told me it needs to be blessed. I can still use it until then cant I?
There was a list on another post (cant remember the title) that had a listing of acceptable traditional churches and the one I spoke of was on that list.

One more thing. It might should go on a different thread,not sure.
When the peaple genuflect I thought it was supposed to be towards the tabernacle.
I see them all genuflect before entering and leaving the pew but the tabernacle is in another room. To do this towards the tabernacle you would have to do it just as you enter the sanctuary (in the back) and at an angle. ( you can see it then through a window).
 
IneedGod said:
Thankyou!
Catholicism for dummies is on my reading list as is the catachism. I have a Rosary and a pamplet to guide me in praying it. Some one told me it needs to be blessed. I can still use it until then cant I?
There was a list on another post (cant remember the title) that had a listing of acceptable traditional churches and the one I spoke of was on that list.

One more thing. It might should go on a different thread,not sure.
When the peaple genuflect I thought it was supposed to be towards the tabernacle.
I see them all genuflect before entering and leaving the pew but the tabernacle is in another room. To do this towards the tabernacle you would have to do it just as you enter the sanctuary (in the back) and at an angle. ( you can see it then through a window).
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Catholicism for Dummies is very practical and easily understood. The catechism is more in-depth and theological.

Pray away! You don’t even absolutely need the beads. You can use your ten fingers to pray it. The benefit of praying the rosary is the active contemplation of the mysteries of the Gospel that you do while praying it. It is not primarily about the recitation of the prayers, although they are also important. Just let the prayers become the background music to your contemplation. To have the actual Rosary beads blessed is just the icing on the cake. Yet, all such prayer must be done with faith before it has true value.

In any faithful Catholic Church, the Lord Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist. Other differences between parishes are mainly in style.

Genuflecting is usually toward the Tabernacle, because our Lord is present within (look for the red candle, which indicates that the Eucharist is present). However, it is also proper to genuflect toward the altar, as that is also holy, and the place where a miracle occurs at each mass. But, the Lord Himself is greater than the altar, as He alone makes it holy.
 
IneedGod said:
Thankyou!
Catholicism for dummies is on my reading list as is the catachism. I have a Rosary and a pamplet to guide me in praying it. Some one told me it needs to be blessed. I can still use it until then cant I?
There was a list on another post (cant remember the title) that had a listing of acceptable traditional churches and the one I spoke of was on that list.

One more thing. It might should go on a different thread,not sure.
When the peaple genuflect I thought it was supposed to be towards the tabernacle.
I see them all genuflect before entering and leaving the pew but the tabernacle is in another room. To do this towards the tabernacle you would have to do it just as you enter the sanctuary (in the back) and at an angle. ( you can see it then through a window).
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Please make absolutely sure you get Catholicism for Dummies, NOT Idiots Guide to Catholicism, which is horrendous!
 
Thank you so much. Glad Ifound out about the two different books. I will be careful.
I have been using the holy water and crossing myself as I enter the church as well as genuflecting no one has said anything so I assume I dont need to wait to do those things either. I am also glad to know I can use my Rosary beads. I have not gone through all decades yet but I do use them and pray part of it. I love to hold the crusifix as I pray and the smell…sort of comforts me.

Thanks again 🙂
 
You can pray an online world-wide Rosary here.

Here is a blogsite that I find very helpful for contemplation. The mysteries are along the right side of the page as you scroll down. Clicking on a particular mystery will bring up a photo of a hand holding a Rosary. Click on the photo and the image enlarges. Then, use you right arrow key to scroll sideways through the images. There are usually 20 images per decade of the Rosary. When finished with that decade, you may “X” out of the page or simply hit the “Esc” key and it takes you back to the main page where you can scroll down and select another mystery.

Here is another page with a variety of Mp3 Rosaries.
 
YoungTradCath said:
Please make absolutely sure you get Catholicism for Dummies, NOT Idiots Guide to Catholicism, which is horrendous!
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Catholicism for Dummies is not free of errors either.

It lists Confirmation as the third and last sacrament of initiation – which might be true for Catholics in most dioceses at the moment, but which is wrong from the Church’s point of view and is certainly not what a convert would encounter.
 
Phemie said:
Catholicism for Dummies is not free of errors either.

It lists Confirmation as the third and last sacrament of initiation – which might be true for Catholics in most dioceses at the moment, but which is wrong from the Church’s point of view and is certainly not what a convert would encounter.
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Well then, you have found an error that both Fr. John Trigilio, ThD, PhD, and Fr. Kenneth Brighenti PhD, as well as Rev. Daniel Mahan, STB, STL, and Rev. Msgr. Joseph Schaedel, Vicar General/Moderator of the Curia all somehow missed. After all, the book possesses both the Nihil Obstat and the Imprimatur, so it has been fairly well vetted.

What do you see as error again?
 
po18guy said:
Well then, you have found an error that both Fr. John Trigilio, ThD, PhD, and Fr. Kenneth Brighenti PhD, as well as Rev. Daniel Mahan, STB, STL, and Rev. Msgr. Joseph Schaedel, Vicar General/Moderator of the Curia all somehow missed. After all, the book possesses both the Nihil Obstat and the Imprimatur, so it has been fairly well vetted.

What do you see as error again?
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Canon Law and the Catechism both call Confirmation the second sacrament of initiation and Communion as the third and last. It’s certainly what converts would experience and so would Catholic children in a growing number of dioceses.
 
Phemie said:
Canon Law and the Catechism both call Confirmation the second sacrament of initiation and Communion as the third and last. It’s certainly what converts would experience and so would Catholic children in a growing number of dioceses.
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Have you contacted the publisher so that they can look into this?
 
po18guy said:
Have you contacted the publisher so that they can look into this?
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The publishers obviously didn’t catch it, but they’re still wrong. On top of Canon Law and ancient tradition, we have this recent example:

Bishop puts Confirmation before First Communion, wins Pope’s praise

…The Pope said that the “sacraments of initiation” had been “restored to their proper order,” Bishop Aquila reported, after meeting privately with the Pontiff on March 8 during his ad limina visit to Rome.

catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=13621
 
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