Intelligent Design, Edward Feser's views

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Fair question - how did the first life on earth reproduce? I’ve never read a good explanation.

I’ve read about lightening striking a mud puddle and forming complex molecules and I’ve read about single-celled organisms that arose shortly after that were complicated enough to reproduce.

I don’t clearly see the bridge.
 
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You haven’t explained how the animal with the deadly cold protecting fur is surviving before it gets cold.
He doesn’t have to. It was a random variation.

I live in an environment that averages 65.2 degrees F. So does my buddy Matt.
I’m not particularly hairy. I can get away with shaving every third day and still look office-ready.
Matt grows hair so quickly that if we’re going to an evening social event where he needs to look in top form, he’ll shave again - despite shaving this morning.

-Boom- Mini-Ice-Age starts over Kentucky. Power goes out. Civilization ends. Bedlam. The cold is bone chilling.

Matt, through random variation he just-so-happened to have, will be more suited to survive in this new environment than me. So he will produce children that will be as hairy as daddy and I am more likely to die before passing my relatively less-hairy genes.

In a few generations, the species on the whole will be more hairy.

Evolution.
 
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Fair question - how did the first life on earth reproduce? I’ve never read a good explanation.

I’ve read about lightening striking a mud puddle and forming complex molecules and I’ve read about single-celled organisms that arose shortly after that were complicated enough to reproduce.

I don’t clearly see the bridge.
Their standard answer is…that’s abiogenesis :roll_eyes:
 
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Bradskii:
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Fair question - how did the first life on earth reproduce? I’ve never read a good explanation.

I’ve read about lightening striking a mud puddle and forming complex molecules and I’ve read about single-celled organisms that arose shortly after that were complicated enough to reproduce.

I don’t clearly see the bridge.
Their standard answer is…that’s abiogenesis :roll_eyes:
I’ve no problem with abiogenesis. I just don’t understand how it starts with the ability to self-sustain through reproduction of some sort.
 
Boom- Mini-Ice-Age starts over Kentucky. Power goes out. Civilization ends. Bedlam. The cold is bone chilling.
So, overnight evolution kicks into high gear and morphs Matt into a super werewolf / polar bear.Who’s Matt going to reproduce with? Their all dead from the cold .
 
Nope. Matt just out-survives me so the species begins to look more like Matt because he’s the one having babies. Not me.

If one of Matt’s kids or grandkids are even more hairy and that is advantageous to the environment, the species will eventually look more like them.

It’s a continuous process.
 
Nope. Matt just out-survives me so the species begins to look more like Matt because he’s the one having babies. Not me.

If one of Matt’s kids or grandkids are even more hairy and that is advantageous to the environment, the species will eventually look more like them.

It’s a continuous process.
Why you didn’t survive ?
 
It’s cold. I’m a relatively non-hairy man.

Even if I live, I’m sub-optimal for the environment whereas Matt is more suited. It might take 100% of my efforts just to keep me alive. Matt, being better insulated, doesnt struggle like I do and has spare effort for having kids.

So again, the species looks a little more like him rather than me.
 
Probably more hairy dogs.

Those short hair, pug faced dogs like boxers, bostons and frenchies would have all died.
 
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Blue area is the normal temperature, both Matt and Vonsalza have an easy time at this temperature, though some days it’s a little cold for Vonsalza while Matt thinks it’s warm.

What happens if the temperature drops from the blue area down to the green line?
 
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Matt’s stuck in the shade as a sweaty mess and I’m having all the babies. 🙂
 
I’ve no problem with abiogenesis. I just don’t understand how it starts with the ability to self-sustain through reproduction of some sort.
We’ve observed self-replicating chemicals. So if the first organism of a sort was comprised from a few of those, that could be a way for it to be self-replicating and then you’d still have your chances of mutations.
 
It’s cold. I’m a relatively non-hairy man.

Even if I live, I’m sub-optimal for the environment whereas Matt is more suited. It might take 100% of my efforts just to keep me alive. Matt, being better insulated, doesnt struggle like I do and has spare effort for having kids.

So again, the species looks a little more like him rather than me.
So you and everybody else are too cold to have sex. Matt’s only problem now is finding a woman who likes furry men,at least he can periodically keep her warm.
🙂
 
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