What’s the point of burdening people with actually BEING Catholic - witness the intense desire of billions of people to keep this in their lives - if we can’t equip them with the means to fulfil that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyGirl
But once you are baptized Catholic, you are considered Catholic forever–right?
This is what I keep reading on this forum.
When they tally how many people of each religion there are in the world, all the Catholics in Ireland are counted as Catholic, are they not?
They may be lapsed or they may not be good or devout, but they are indeed Catholic nonetheless, I imagine.
Right. You present the Catholic Church’s answer correctly.
I was merely providing a concise summary of the belief of many people on this forum.Such bitter bile in that post! Lighten up, Joie. You are capable of making a kinder better argument. Plus the other poster is not exactly without a point.
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Yeah, my point is that this would say to gays that the Church is alright with gay marriage and the gay lifestyle and that the Church might even change its positions on it.Such bitter bile in that post! Lighten up, Joie. You are capable of making a kinder better argument. Plus the other poster is not exactly without a point.
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The Church needs to reaffirm for the modern world that marriage is about babies and not love. Of course this might cause many heterosexuals to respond without outrage, but the Church has a duty to remind the people of what marriage is and is not.Yeah, my point is that this would say to gays that the Church is alright with gay marriage and the gay lifestyle and that the Church might even change its positions on it.
I’m not sure if you’re trolling or what.The Church needs to reaffirm for the modern world that marriage is about babies and not love. Of course this might cause many heterosexuals to respond without outrage, but the Church has a duty to remind the people of what marriage is and is not.
Love and babies are not, of course, mutually exclusive. Husband and wife promise to love each other every day of their lives, as well as to be open to babies. And not every act of conjugal relations can possibly result in babies, nor does the Church limit the act to only that purpose. It only proposes that conjugal relations always be ordered to procreation, even in those instances when procreation is not possible.The Church needs to reaffirm for the modern world that marriage is about babies and not love. Of course this might cause many heterosexuals to respond without outrage, but the Church has a duty to remind the people of what marriage is and is not.
I am quite serious that marriage is about babies not love, read the requirements of marriage for example being able to engage in sex is a requirement, but there is nothing requiring there to be any love.I’m not sure if you’re trolling or what.
Sorry, but this makes no sense. Everyone is welcome to the church it is a place for sinners. If I was told that my sin separated me from God and was intrinsically disordered but I chose to disagree with this assessment of my lifestyle I too would feel very out of place in my church. I think this is a normal human response. This response and feeling of discomfort is my problem, not the churches.They have made a few suggestions.
One is to soften the language linked to homosexuals used in the teachings.
(There’s another thread on this topic).
It would make people of homosexual orientation feel more welcome in the church, but it doesn’t change teaching or doctrine.
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This is a serious miss characterization of what Dland said and what the Church teaches or even how the church speaks to and about people with SSA. Your point is lost in the B.S. you spewing.Clearly if we fail to loudly and emphatically proclaim at every opportunity that homosexuality is an abomination and sodomites unless they repent they will burn in the fires of Hell forever then sodomites will believe their filthy and vile actions are not a horrific evil on par with rape and abortion.
THis should read as “I was merely providing a concise summary of what I believe isthe belief of many people on this forum”I was merely providing a concise summary of the belief of many people on this forum.
Marriage is most definitely about LOVE just not in your sense of love=sex. Marriage is best for the children brought into this world and for the partners themselves. Loves highest form is to want the good for another person and the greatest good is to help someone reach heaven. If you love someone but help them to live in sin is not in the best interest of the one you love.The Church needs to reaffirm for the modern world that marriage is about babies and not love. Of course this might cause many heterosexuals to respond without outrage, but the Church has a duty to remind the people of what marriage is and is not.
Link?Clearly if we fail to loudly and emphatically proclaim at every opportunity that homosexuality is an abomination and sodomites unless they repent they will burn in the fires of Hell forever then sodomites will believe their filthy and vile actions are not a horrific evil on par with rape and abortion.
Romantic love is not necessary for marriage.Marriage is most definitely about LOVE just not in your sense of love=sex. Marriage is best for the children brought into this world and for the partners themselves. Loves highest form is to want the good for another person and the greatest good is to help someone reach heaven. If you love someone but help them to live in sin is not in the best interest of the one you love.
Peace:shrug:
Link to what pray tell?Link?