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Well anyway guys, in case you didn’t see it last time, this guy that he just copy/pasted from last time is lying about the meaning of the Hebrew word for “navel” (he said it really means vagina). Mr. Alien was claiming the same thing on here until I posted the real translation.

I know you guys are probably not surprised, but I wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page. So let’s just have a good laugh about it and move on… 🙂
 
gurrato alaien:
and peace to brother,

Shi’a believe in one true God and the holy Quran same sunni Quran and they believe in prophet Muhammad (pbuh), the problem with shi’a is that they turned out from mainstream of Islam they loved Emam Ali so much they claimed that he should be the first Khalipha after the death of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and not Abu Baker. Even though they believe in God and Quran and prophet Muhammad.
This is going off topic because of your stubbornness to admit your sects when it’s crystal clear the basis of any division is from difference of opinions or beliefs or whatnot. You guys somewhere on these boards also refer to us and our Eastern Orthodox brothers as sects and yet our beliefs are basically the same instead for the successor of Peter. Right??
 
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exoflare:
Well anyway guys, in case you didn’t see it last time, this guy that he just copy/pasted from last time is lying about the meaning of the Hebrew word for “navel” (he said it really means vagina). Mr. Alien was claiming the same thing on here until I posted the real translation.

I know you guys are probably not surprised, but I wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page. So let’s just have a good laugh about it and move on… 🙂
Regardless the meaning of the Hebrew word for “navel” whether like you have mentioned or not, I’d suggest to those who claim that all these verses are not considered a pornography, I’d suggest to them to read it to their daughters can they?

To those who did not read the article this is the link:
X-rated pornography in the bible
answering-christianity.com/x_rated.htm
 
gurrato alaien:
Regardless the meaning of the Hebrew word for “navel” whether like you have mentioned or not, I’d suggest to those who claim that all these verses are not considered a pornography, I’d suggest to them to read it to their daughters can they?

To those who did not read the article this is the link:
X-rated pornography in the bible
answering-christianity.com/x_rated.htm
I don’t have a daughter, but of course we could read it to a daughter… why do you keep asking this?

It’s still funny how you’re so offended by this, but somehow your prophet… er, “consummating marriage” with a 9-year-old girl doesn’t bother you in the least. You really do give new meaning to “take the plank out of your own eye”.
 
The Song of Songs is pornography now? Someone better tell God!

I read the article, and it’s just nutty as all get out. Apparently conjugal love is a dirty thing to Muslims. Who would of guessed :rolleyes:
 
What is the spiritual point and wisdom from having this in the Bible? How is it supposed to be GOD Almighty’s True Living Words?!!!
 
gurrato alaien:
What is the spiritual point and wisdom from having this in the Bible? How is it supposed to be GOD Almighty’s True Living Words?!!!
This may out of contex but what is the spiritual point and wisdon from having the quran? How is it supposed to be from God Almighty while the prophet’s moral need to be questioned?
 
gurrato alaien:
What is the spiritual point and wisdom from having this in the Bible? How is it supposed to be GOD Almighty’s True Living Words?!!!
It’s as if we never come across these when we read our bible. Did you think we skip over them or tear them out. Brother I have been coming across these from as young as I could read and write. Tell you what they never occurred to me as evil or bad as I had an innocent mind just like any other kid and I still do when I read it today. I never questioned who wrote it or who put it in there since as I grew up i naturally realised its reality, genuiness and truth as I explored and experienced more of the world. It’s life brother!

That’s life whether you like it or not. It’s all there in the Book of life and it confirmed to me more the reality of life as described and revealed in it. It lacks nothing of the reality of life that any human being ever lived on this planet would have ever experienced in his/her entire life. Nothing is new under the sun. It confirmed for me even more the reality and authenticity of the author of the Book of life. Yes rape, adultery, sexual contact, etc are in there but are they real? Do we have these today or not? Did they only happen to the people who lived thousand years past? Well I’ll leave it to you to answer and compare it to your unrealistic and superfluous life and mindset.

In contrast if your koran is so perfect as to have no clue about the other 50% of the reality of life how are are your lives genuinely lived. If you don’t have these in your koran then why do you have them in your community. Why do you have rape, adultery sexual contact and everything else our bible describes. If the koran is so perfect and holy as you hold it then none I mean nothing of these should be found amongst you. And what happens to you when you see these things take place infront of your eyes. Do you believe it or just cast it out as an illusion and unreal experience. I bet you do all the time since your koran says nothing about it so it must be unreal. ‘It can’t be life. It’s unrealisitic.’

Only and evil eye and a pervert mind would pick up those alleged verses as anything ponographic!!

Im sorry guys you don’t have the fullness of life in body and spirit.
 
gurrato alaien:
What is the spiritual point and wisdom from having this in the Bible? How is it supposed to be GOD Almighty’s True Living Words?!!!
What about your “prophet’s” vision of Paradise which is full of base and lewd imaginings???
 
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cute2904:
This may out of contex but what is the spiritual point and wisdon from having the quran? How is it supposed to be from God Almighty while the prophet’s moral need to be questioned?
The wisdom from having the Quran is that he guided us to the true path the Islamic monotheism ‘La ilaha illa Allah, Mohammed Rasool-ullah’, [There is no deity worthy of worship but Allah alone, and Mohammed is Allah’s Messenger.]

Indeed, this is the most truthful statement ever revealed by Allah to mankind. It is the core secret to man’s happiness, salvation, pleasure and final victory
 
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sainted:
It’s as if we never come across these when we read our bible. Did you think we skip over them or tear them out. Brother I have been coming across these from as young as I could read and write. Tell you what they never occurred to me as evil or bad as I had an innocent mind just like any other kid and I still do when I read it today. I never questioned who wrote it or who put it in there since as I grew up i naturally realised its reality, genuiness and truth as I explored and experienced more of the world. It’s life brother!

That’s life whether you like it or not. It’s all there in the Book of life and it confirmed to me more the reality of life as described and revealed in it. It lacks nothing of the reality of life that any human being ever lived on this planet would have ever experienced in his/her entire life. Nothing is new under the sun. It confirmed for me even more the reality and authenticity of the author of the Book of life. Yes rape, adultery, sexual contact, etc are in there but are they real? Do we have these today or not? Did they only happen to the people who lived thousand years past? Well I’ll leave it to you to answer and compare it to your unrealistic and superfluous life and mindset.

In contrast if your koran is so perfect as to have no clue about the other 50% of the reality of life how are are your lives genuinely lived. If you don’t have these in your koran then why do you have them in your community. Why do you have rape, adultery sexual contact and everything else our bible describes. If the koran is so perfect and holy as you hold it then none I mean nothing of these should be found amongst you. And what happens to you when you see these things take place infront of your eyes. Do you believe it or just cast it out as an illusion and unreal experience. I bet you do all the time since your koran says nothing about it so it must be unreal. ‘It can’t be life. It’s unrealisitic.’

Only and evil eye and a pervert mind would pick up those alleged verses as anything ponographic!!

Im sorry guys you don’t have the fullness of life in body and spirit.
Peace Brother again

That’s mean you don’t know any idea about Quran,
You don’t know that all these are forbidden in Quran.
Also those who are real Muslims and Know the Quran, they impossible to commit any Sin

I will ask you same Question if the bible is perfect why Most Christians are adulterers

Everybody knows who are the west societies.

Peace.
 
gurrato alaien:
Well, don’t you agree that Christian’s denominations have a deferent concept of trinity. Do you? And they have about 65 copies from the bible ?
Some denomination believe that Jesus is Son of God others believe he is a God, others believe that Mary the mother is divine also, so even Christians scholars cannot recognize the concept of the trinity. Note this is not from Quran.
Some denominations can believe whatever they like, we aren’t responsible for what they believe, and the Catholic Church is not a denomination.
 
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Ivornotion:
Some denominations can believe whatever they like, we aren’t responsible for what they believe, and the Catholic Church is not a denomination.
So wich christianity is true!!!
 
gurrato alaien:
Peace Brother again

That’s mean you don’t know any idea about Quran,
You don’t know that all these are forbidden in Quran.
Also those who are real Muslims and Know the Quran, they impossible to commit any Sin

I will ask you same Question if the bible is perfect why Most Christians are adulterers

Everybody knows who are the west societies.

Peace.
And you think you know about our bible as well?
Such rude actions also forbidden as a teaching in the bible. Thats why Jesus our Lord and Saviour is the good example of it.
Impossible to commit any sin? then tell me who are these people who according to you is real Islam and know Quran?

West society does refer to the Christian. But it doesnt mean Bible commands adultery. And what can you proud of from a society that allow mutah marriage?.. isnt it a legal prostitution and the imam as the pimp? 🙂
 
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cute2904:
And you think you know about our bible as well?
Such rude actions also forbidden as a teaching in the bible. Thats why Jesus our Lord and Saviour is the good example of it.
Impossible to commit any sin? then tell me who are these people who according to you is real Islam and know Quran?

West society does refer to the Christian. But it doesnt mean Bible commands adultery. And what can you proud of from a society that allow mutah marriage?.. isnt it a legal prostitution and the imam as the pimp? 🙂
Mutah marriage is forbiden in Islam. correct your information.

Peace.
 
gurrato alaien:
Peace be upon you brother,

Since prophet Jesus (pbuh) was eating, drinking, weeping, walking and has been circumcised that means he was totally 100% human. And the human can’t take care of the universe.

Peace
Yes, 100% human and 100% God. It’s called the hypostatic union. Christ was fully God and fully man.
 
gurrato alaien:
Peace Brother again

That’s mean you don’t know any idea about Quran,
You don’t know that all these are forbidden in Quran.Peace.
I know it is so perfect that that it doesn’t contain a single explicit letter with a sexual connotation.
It is so perfect it’s full of killing, murder and war connotations.

I don’t need to tell you if they are found in the Bible it means they are not forbidden. Read the whole Bible and you will understand it.
I don’t want to go through another long explanation as I’ll be just wasting my time.
Also those who are real Muslims and Know the Quran, they impossible to commit any Sin
Impossible? :confused: Read the Bibile again to see what the Lord says about us(human). You must have angels living with/ amongst the human race!
I will ask you same Question if the bible is perfect why Most Christians are adulterers
Was it us or you guys who always paint the koran with all self-glorification attributes known in English language.
It’s obvious to me that it is impossible for you to understand when I spent all that time trying to explain to you in my last post. Ok I will say it again, please understand it now: “It’s life,” That’s life," It’s reality." God can do so much but if people are weak and wicked do you blame God for it. It was there in the days of Abraham, the days of Moses, the days of Jesus and is still here, and of course if it wasn’t for the accounts of the Bible you would’ve never known it existed in the days of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. You might think it’s new, an invention of the 19th Century, right?

I have come to the conclusion that you guys are so perfect just like you boast about the koran as the perfect creation ever made by man.

**While you boast about as being the most perfect ** and ‘impossible to sin’ creation of God, we on the other hand admit our infirmities, iniquities and our imperfection to you, to the world but mostly importantly to our Lord God Almighty.
Everybody knows who are the west societies
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(Is this west or meant to be worst? If it’s the former yes everyone knows and if it’s the latter here goes.)
I know but I’m not going to say it’s yours as you have convinced me how perfect your societies are!!
So wich christianity is true!!!
You mean you don’t know? Read my lips carefully,“THE HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.”
 
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