Interesting twist on the Notre Dame Obama Drama

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Obama speaking at my alma mater…not happy but I can deal with that. He’s the president. I didn’t vote for him and I don’t agree with him on abortion or the death penalty (he’s for capital punishment by the way…ugh!..a double whammy!). Giving him an honorary doctorate of laws? …yeah that really makes me sad, angry, and confused, as it does many alums and students. I’d prefer that the invitation not have been given to him to avoid all this craziness (although I’m still hopeful and praying that SOMEHOW good may come from it all). Not sure how yet…maybe Our Lady will intercede 👍

So, with my voice heard, I do not want the following forwarded story to seem like it has my endorsement. Trust me, I do not want Obama to receive the honorary degree at Notre Dame. I just thought this article sparks some interest and thought I’d throw it out there for others to read.

Pray for the Irish to keep our Catholic identity!!!:irish2:

Here you go! …

Remove the pope for “honoring” Bill Richardson!
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
By Bryan Cones
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The pope today honored pro-choice Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico today on the occasion of his state abolishing the death penalty. Richardson met with the pope after his Wednesday audience; Richardson is to attend a ceremonial lighting of the Colosseum, according to Reuters.

I, for one, am starting a petition to have Benedict removed immediately from the chair of Peter. Bill Richardson is clearly pro-choice–at least if I follow the logic of those who want President Obama uninvited from Notre Dame and ND President John Jenkins removed from his office (see this press release at Catholic Online).

Of course, removing the pope would be a little over the top, but I don’t think this is a question of apples and oranges. The pope is rightly acknowledging Richardson’s accomplishment in the area of the death penalty, just as Notre Dame is acknowleding the admirable qualities of the president, which led him to the White House–including his work as a community organizer in urban Roman Catholic parishes. That doesn’t mean we can’t still disagree with and challenge him on those issues over which we diverge.

So I’ll go with the pope on this one.
 
If all ND did was congratulate Obama on accomplishing something huge which is so fully in accord with Church teaching, and a giant step for furthering a culture of life.,as the Pope did, then, OK.

But,
What did Obama accomplish which furthers the culture of life, or some other important issue?

Also, in giving the honorary degree the ND disobeys the directive of the US Bishops to not honor persons who are publicly pro-abortion.

For this, critics are crying “away with him” (Fr. Jenkins),

Whereas the Pope grabbed an opportunity to point out a possitive achievement toward a culture of life, Fr. Jenkins has grabbed an opportunity to have the wordly honor of the visit of the president, a president who is pro-abortion, and give him an honorary degree in???
law???
 
Richardson meet the pope after the pontiff’s general audience in the Vatican

Richardson discussed the repeal of the death penalty with the pope

Discussion is not honoring, there was acknowledgement and dialoged.

Notre Dame however WILL be giving an honorary degree to Obama :eek:
What a huge difference
 
Ainjell,👍
Obama is to pro-abortion what Duke is to racism. Obama has all the power to force tax payers to promote abortion not only in America but also abroad. What was the first thing that Obama did when he became President? Richardson has no power to promote death to the innocent. Obama has the power not only because he is President but because he also has the congress behind all his policies that are completely against Catholic teaching. We haven’t had a president with this much power in many years.:bigyikes:
 
onetruechurch said:
Ainjell,👍
Obama is to pro-abortion what Duke is to racism. Obama has all the power to force tax payers to promote abortion not only in America but also abroad. What was the first thing that Obama did when he became President? Richardson has no power to promote death to the innocent. Obama has the power not only because he is President but because he also has the congress behind all his policies that are completely against Catholic teaching. We haven’t had a president with this much power in many years.:bigyikes:
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My guess is that Obama will followed up on his new conference posture and pretend that his campaign promises mean nothing, that his executive orders mean nothing, that his appointments mean nothing and that he will reach out for a nonexistent middle ground. Never mind the radical character of our existing abvortion law and his obvious commitment to expanding its “freedoms.” That Notre Dame should provide him with a platform for promoting his views and has chosen to honor him for his “achievements,” is a disgrace. But Fr. Jenkins et al will preen themsleves for their superiority to their critics and Notre Dame will take its place among the other apostate schools.
 
Oh gosh, for a new member to get two thumbs up, I’m thrilled! I’ve been following the ND debaucle with sadness and indignation. I sent Fr. Jenkins a letter. Notre Dame–Our Lady–of all places to honor a supporter of abortion “rights” t–she must be crying. The best protest I heard of was a group of alumni formed a web site a posted how much donations they were withholding from ND and contributing to pro-life activities. It was up to 8.2 million in the first week. Money talks in this world, and it seems that the board and Fr. Jenkiins are more concerned with this world than the next, so they should speak the language very well.
 
Domer1997 said:
So, with my voice heard, I do not want the following forwarded story to seem like it has my endorsement. Trust me, I do not want Obama to receive the honorary degree at Notre Dame. I just thought this article sparks some interest and thought I’d throw it out there for others to read.
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The Pope did not initiate an invitation to the Governor, nor offer him a platform and invite him to speak with no format of response or rebuttal, nor offer him an honorary title, award or accolade. Yet this is what Notre Dame has done for Obama. I think we can all see the difference.
 
ainjell said:
The best protest I heard of was a group of alumni formed a web site a posted how much donations they were withholding from ND and contributing to pro-life activities. It was up to 8.2 million in the first week. Money talks in this world, and it seems that the board and Fr. Jenkiins are more concerned with this world than the next, so they should speak the language very well.
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If this is true, I think it’s the best way to go about making voices heard. Quietly stop sending donations and tell them why.
 
Go here: catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15802

I read that the total endowment to ND is billions and someone’s blog thought 8.2million in one week (so far) wouldn’t matter much.

Fr. Jenkins has one year left of his five year term. If he plays it out, and if the alumni continue to withhold until he steps down, the figure could rise appreciably in a year.
 
ainjell said:
Go here: catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15802

I read that the total endowment to ND is billions and someone’s blog thought 8.2million in one week (so far) wouldn’t matter much.

Fr. Jenkins has one year left of his five year term. If he plays it out, and if the alumni continue to withhold until he steps down, the figure could rise appreciably in a year.
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What with the economic situation their endowment is probably like all the other schools, way way down so that 8.2 million is going to be missed.
 
KathleenElsie said:
What with the economic situation their endowment is probably like all the other schools, way way down so that 8.2 million is going to be missed.
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It would be a good idea to donate to a pro-life cause this month in honor of the ND situation going on right now and let them know you did it to honor those ND graduates that are standing up for life. I hope that ND loses out on much more than 8.2 million, and that these alumnus are serious about these claims.
 
Why is the Church so helpless to do anything ? The Bishops have expressed their displeasure and all, but Father Jenkins just goes his merry way !
God Bless all here.

Gene
 
KCT said:
If this is true, I think it’s the best way to go about making voices heard. Quietly stop sending donations and tell them why.
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Will it make the alumnis happy if the University is then forced to close?
That sounds like a terrible idea to me, however, if everything runs it course and if it’s time
for the Notre Dame to go, its time and that’s that.
 
I hope that Obama doesn’t go to Notre Dame.
There are too many people who are protesting, making noise and threats and to me
that places a president that I value and respect at risk.

There are plenty of Universities that would be thrilled to have the President speak, there’s no need to go to ND (it’s not like we’re talking Ivy League here anyway!)

This is getting out of hand and all you need is one person like those nuts who blew
up the abortion clinics and it could cause a national disaster.
 
TracyJ said:
I hope that Obama doesn’t go to Notre Dame.
There are too many people who are protesting, making noise and threats and to me
that places a president that I value and respect at risk.

There are plenty of Universities that would be thrilled to have the President speak, there’s no need to go to ND (it’s not like we’re talking Ivy League here anyway!)

This is getting out of hand and all you need is one person like those nuts who blew
up the abortion clinics and it could cause a national disaster.You mean like the White Supremists and KKK that hate the Jews and Catholics? There has never been a Catholic Christian that has started violence at a University that I know of. Can you give me and the others here a name?.
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If what you say is true. Then why is BHO going to a place that he knowingly does not support on their beliefs and issues. Could it be because that is the exact reason to go? Could the reason be to SPLIT off pro-abortion catholics with Catholics that support all life?

I pray this does not become violent. I have never seen one pro-life protester do anything more then kneel and pray when others confronted them with potential violence.

But in my heart I believe that the pro-choice people will escalate this to violence against the pro-life peaceful demonstrations. I have been kicked off of a “catholic” university for carrying a sign that had no pictures but did say “abortion has murdered 50,000,000 of my children’s generation”.🤷 This was while a pro-CHOICE speaker was giving his speech and presentation inside the university with the blessings of the university.:eek:
 
TraceyJ
Some people think that having BHO for president of the USA
IS a national disaster. :twocents:
 
ainjell said:
TraceyJ
Some people think that having BHO for president of the USA
IS a national disaster. :twocents:
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We won’t know if this POTUS is a national disaster till after his term)s) are up. But it is sure death to many millions of unborn babies.:mad:
 
TracyJ said:
I hope that Obama doesn’t go to Notre Dame.
There are too many people who are protesting, making noise and threats and to me
that places a president that I value and respect at risk.

There are plenty of Universities that would be thrilled to have the President speak, there’s no need to go to ND (it’s not like we’re talking Ivy League here anyway!)

This is getting out of hand and all you need is one person like those nuts who blew
up the abortion clinics and it could cause a national disaster.
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I am quite certain the secret service will be protecting Obama who will be there for a short time. I have no doubt that people will need tickets to get anywhere near the graduation ceremony.

I don’t want anything bad to happen to Obama and most people that are against his presence there would only hope and pray that ND would reconsider honoring the most pro-abortion president in our history.

I urge all of you reading this to say a rosary for the peaceful protest of Obama’s presence at ND to remain peaceful and for Obama to convert his heart against the slaughter of innocents.

That being said, it seems as if you really believe he is in danger because we disagree with his presence there. Pro-life people march all the time in Washington and they never cause damage. Go to the Pro-life march in DC, and you will see 300,000 peaceful protesters. Compare that to the Democratic or Republican National conventions last year where Bush haters did physical damage to buildings. I think you are confusing issues, and I don’t blame you for the media gets into it also. They cry race all the time, and they act as if pro-life people are extreme when they are not.
 
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