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Interview With Cardinal Burke . . . Insights On The State Of The Church In The Aftermath Of The Ordinary Synod On The Family

*By *DON FIER January 4, 2016 The Wanderer

Part 1

**(Editor’s Note: His Eminence Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, Patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, recently traveled from Rome to the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in La Crosse, Wis., a magnificent place of worship which he founded and dedicated.

His Eminence graciously granted an extensive interview to The Wanderer during which he shared his insights on a variety of topics, including the recently concluded Ordinary Synod of Bishops on the Family and his recommendations for how we should contend with the uncertainty and confusion that is currently prevalent among the clerical and lay faithful.)**
Q. Several weeks have passed since the Synod on the Family, and I presume you have now had time to study carefully the final report. In your view, what are the main fruits of the Synod, and how best can the Church take advantage of them?

A. The final report is a complex document and is written in a way in which it is not always easy to understand the exact import of what is being affirmed. For example, three paragraphs (nn. 84-86) suggest that the last session of the Synod found a way whereby people who are in irregular matrimonial unions can still receive the sacraments. To address the lack of clarity in the document, I have written a brief commentary on those paragraphs to clarify what the Church actually teaches.

Since the close of the Synod, Fr. Antonio Spadaro, a Jesuit who was one of the Synod Fathers and on the drafting committee of the Synod, has published an article in which he gives as a central highlight of this Synod something the prior one was unable to accomplish, namely, to open up a way for reception of Holy Communion and Penance by those who are divorced and civilly remarried. In conscience, I felt I had to publish a clarification about what he wrote.

There are many good things in the final report, but there are many other things that I intend to write about, in order to make clear the Church’s teaching. For example, I do not think the statement about parental responsibility for education is adequately stated. It could give the impression that parents are not the first ones who are responsible for the education of their children.

Overall, as made evident in Fr. Spadaro’s article, there is a philosophical presupposition to the reasoning in the document which, first of all, is simply not correct. Secondly, it is very inimical to Catholic teaching. For instance, it is claimed that there are the truths of the Faith and also what are referred to as “the truths of history” (i.e., of the changing times).

We understand that times change, and we face new developments, but we also
understand that the substance of things remains the same. There is a truth against which we must measure the changes that we encounter in time. This is not clear in the Synod’s final document, especially if Fr. Spadaro’s article is meant to be a true representation of the thinking of the Synod. If it is, there are some serious clarifications that must be made.

For my own part, I think the best thing would be for the final report to be continued to be studied by true teachers of the Faith. I trust that there will not be any further action taken on the controversial matters treated in the final report, since they touch upon the very foundations of our Catholic Faith.

Fr. Spadaro’s article, for instance, gives the impression that there is some kind of resolution to the situation of persons in an invalid marriage union which would permit them to receive the sacraments apart from what the Church has always understood: the decision, in conscience, to live as brother and sister, if the parties cannot separate, and, then, to receive the sacraments in a place where they will not create scandal because people see that they are living together and know they are bound by a prior union.

To give an impression that there is another solution in the internal forum is false and creates false expectations in people, confusing them with regard to the nature of conscience and the moral truth to which our conscience is always to conform itself.

Obviously, there are good fruits from the Synod such as its emphasis on marriage preparation and its critical importance. For my own part, I would like to have seen more emphasis on the preparation for marriage, both remote and immediate.

I think the fundamental question with regard to the pastoral care of those called to marriage and of families today is catechesis. We have generations of Catholic who do not understand much about their Catholic Faith, and that includes the Church’s teaching on the sacramental nature of marriage and on the family. That teaching should be emphasized above all, beginning with children.

When I was a child being catechized with the Baltimore Catechism, some of the first definitions I learned had to do with the sacrament of marriage. This is not taught anymore. Young people, at the time they are preparing for marriage, should receive an intense catechesis. However, it should be an intensifying of what they already know. Also, we need to educate the faithful in general, many of whom are poorly catechized and are actually being led into confusion about these matters…
 
Interview With Cardinal Burke . . . (Part 2) Insights On The State Of The Church In The Aftermath Of The Ordinary Synod On The Family

By DON FIER January 11, 2016 The Wanderer

Part 1
Part 2

**(Editor’s Note: His Eminence Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, Patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, recently traveled from Rome to the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in La Crosse, Wis., a magnificent place of worship which he founded and dedicated.

His Eminence graciously granted an extensive interview to The Wanderer during which he shared his insights on a variety of topics, including the recently concluded Ordinary Synod of Bishops on the Family and his recommendations for how we should contend with the uncertainty and confusion that is currently prevalent among the clerical and lay faithful.)**
Q. It appears that proposals are under consideration for decentralization in the hierarchical structure of the Church’s governance. In other words, Conferences of Bishops and diocesan ordinaries would be given more authority to deal locally with pastoral practices on some of the hot-button topics addressed by the Synod. Please offer your comments as to the possibility of this happening. Are fractures in unity or even schisms (as some media outlets suggest) on the horizon?

A. I think it is a real danger. “Decentralization” is a word taken from the secular world and is really not appropriate to conversations about the Church. What is required is to return to the Gospels and to the Church as Christ constituted her. From the very beginning of His public ministry, He called the Twelve, He set them apart, and He prepared them to exercise His pastoral governance of the Church in every time and every place.

To fulfill this responsibility, Christ established Peter as the head of the apostolic college, as the principle of unity among all the bishops and among all the faithful. It is very clear in His words at Caesarea Philippi to Simon Peter: “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:13).

This is the Divine Gift given; this is what is of Divine Law in the Church: It is the apostolic office of the Roman Pontiff and of the bishops in communion with him. They have the responsibility for governance.

The Conference of Bishops is a man-made construct to help coordinate pastoral activity and to promote fellowship among bishops. Our Lord did not ever teach anything about it, nor is there anything in the Church’s tradition that would give Conferences of Bishops the authority to make decisions about pastoral practices which would involve a change in Church teaching. Let us recall that every pastoral practice is tied to a doctrinal truth.

[Jesuit] Fr. [Antonio] Spadaro says in his article that a pastoral practice in Germany might be radically different than a pastoral practice in Guinea. How can that be if one is referring to the same doctrine and the same truth of Christ? I find this whole notion very troubling.

The diocesan bishops are the teachers of the Faith in their dioceses. However, the bishops — and even more so the Roman Pontiff — are held to the highest level of obedience to Christ and to the living tradition by which Christ comes to us in His Church. We cannot make up the Church in every era or according to local ideas.

From my own experience with regard to Conferences of Bishops, they can be very helpful but can also have a very damaging effect in the sense that the individual bishop no longer takes as seriously as he should his own responsibility to teach the Faith and to govern in accordance with that teaching. The idea can develop that the teaching and governance of the Bishop is supposedly going to be determined by the Conference of Bishops.

When you talk about a Conference of Bishops like the one in the United States (which has so many bishops), it is clear that it is not an effective instrument to deal with pastoral questions which touch upon the truths of the Faith. If such a thing were to happen where, for instance, the pastoral practice for those who were in irregular matrimonial unions was said to be at the discretion of the Conference of Bishops or of the individual diocesan bishop, we would end up with another Protestant denomination.

We are one Church throughout the whole world: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. These four marks need to be greatly emphasized in the times in which we live…
 
Yes bless him with an openness to the Holy Fathers guidance and challenge to embrace the mercifulness of God.
 
Does Cardinal Burke not believe in the mercifulness of God?
I don’t know what he believes, but Pope Francis is challenging all of us to embrace the mercy of God in ways that are new and unfamiliar to us.
 
I don’t know what he believes, but Pope Francis is challenging all of us to embrace the mercy of God in ways that are new and unfamiliar to us.
How do you know it’s a challenge for Cardinal Bourke?
 
How do you know it’s a challenge for Cardinal Bourke?
There was the widely known fact that Cardinal Burke wanted some of the synod questions to be completely removed from discussion at the Synod. Those are discussions he feels closed to, having determined their completion in his own opinion, in contrast to the Popes call to be open to any further clarity from the Holy Spirit.
 
There was the widely known fact that Cardinal Burke wanted some of the synod questions to be completely removed from discussion at the Synod.
What Cardinal Burke wanted was recognition that the inadmissibility to communion of the divorced and remarried was a doctrinal fact not open to change, and there was no justification for pretending otherwise and discussing the point yet again.
Those are discussions he feels closed to, having determined their completion in his own opinion…
The point had been explicitly addressed several times, and resolved each time the same way. If the doctrines involved could not change, and Pope Francis assured the synod they should not, then there was nothing more to discuss. How often is it necessary to review church doctrines before they are considered valid?
… in contrast to the Popes call to be open to any further clarity from the Holy Spirit.
“Further clarity” is one of those vague, ambiguous phrases that could mean anything at all. It would appear that clarity about existing doctrine was one thing several at the synod were lacking.

Ender
 
What Cardinal Burke wanted was recognition that the inadmissibility to communion of the divorced and remarried was a doctrinal fact not open to change, and there was no justification for pretending otherwise and discussing the point yet again.
The point had been explicitly addressed several times, and resolved each time the same way. If the doctrines involved could not change, and Pope Francis assured the synod they should not, then there was nothing more to discuss. How often is it necessary to review church doctrines before they are considered valid?
“Further clarity” is one of those vague, ambiguous phrases that could mean anything at all. It would appear that clarity about existing doctrine was one thing several at the synod were lacking.

Ender
Well said.
 
Interview With Cardinal Burke… (Part 3) Insights On The State Of The Church In The Aftermath Of The Ordinary Synod On The Family

By DON FIER January 19, 2016 The Wanderer

Part 1
Part 2

**(Editor’s Note: His Eminence Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, Patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, recently traveled from Rome to the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in La Crosse, Wis., a magnificent place of worship which he founded and dedicated.

His Eminence graciously granted an extensive interview to The Wanderer during which he shared his insights on a variety of topics, including the recently concluded Ordinary Synod of Bishops on the Family and his recommendations for how we should contend with the uncertainty and confusion that is currently prevalent among the clerical and lay faithful.)

(This is the last installment of our three-part interview with Cardinal Burke.)**
Q. Do you have any words for faithful priests who find themselves discouraged by the current ecclesiastical atmosphere of doctrinal confusion and subversion?

Also, what about lay people? If faithful members of the laity find themselves in parishes (or dioceses) where aberrant practices contrary to authentic Church teaching are taking place, what is the proper response?

To whom does the laity turn if those in leadership positions in the magisterial office of the Church espouse pastoral practices that are in opposition to her unchangeable doctrine?

A. I hear this from many good priests; even bishops talk to me about the difficulty of dealing with confusion when they present the Church’s teaching. They are told they are not in step with the current practice of the Church or even that they are against the Pope.

One archbishop said to me, “How is it that those of us who teach what the Church has always taught are now called enemies of the Pope by the media and others?”

My response is this: “We know what the Church teaches. It is memorialized in the Catechism of the Catholic Church; it is in the magisterial statements with regard to marriage and family. Go to Familiaris Consortio, go to Casti Connubii, go to Humanae Vitae! We know what the Church teaches and we hold firm to that.”

We cannot allow ourselves to be discouraged. The situation of pervasive confusion is disheartening. I understand that and know that. It is difficult because the faithful are reading the newspaper and various reports and are saying to the priests: “You are not up with the times,” or “you are not following Pope Francis.” The Pope cannot teach us or urge us to do anything other than what the Church has always taught and practiced.

It is discouraging for me, too, to observe so much confusion. It can be disorienting and there can be the temptation simply to be silent and let all this go on as somehow being the will of God, which it cannot be. I have reflected on this and said, “No, we priests and bishops are true teachers of the Faith. The Deposit of Faith is given to us by the Church and we must stick to that. We do not betray or abandon it by following all kinds of popular trends.”

There is a wonderful passage in Pope John Paul II’s Novo Millennio Ineunte which says that people are always looking for some magic formula or some new program for the pastoral practices of the Church. But John Paul II says, “No, the program is the same as ever: it is Jesus Christ in the living tradition” (cf. n. 29).

With regard to the laity, everywhere I go I strongly encourage lay movements, organizations, and associations to sponsor “Days of Reflection” during which the truths of the Faith are presented by good solid speakers, and even more so, days of prayer connected with them. The laity needs to write about these things. If we remain silent, it gives the impression that we, too, are going along with all of this confusion and error. That, we know, is the work of the Devil — he is the master of confusion and error.

Q. Please offer your thoughts on the confusion that has resulted from recent remarks made Pope Francis during a Q&A session at Rome’s Evangelical Lutheran Church (as reported in the National Catholic Register on November 16, 2015). The Holy Father’s comments appear to suggest — unless read very carefully — that the Lutheran wife of a Catholic man is allowed to receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church.

A. First of all, Pope Francis’ remarks were offered completely spontaneously. In my judgment, as I read them, it was not clear what the Holy Father was saying. However, the impression was given that a non-Catholic may approach the altar to receive Holy Communion if he or she decides in his or her heart that it is all right to do so.

The bottom line is this: the Pope cannot teach anything that the Church has not always taught with regard to reception of the Holy Eucharist. One who does not have Catholic Faith in the Eucharist may not approach to receive the sacrament. Moreover, the faith required to receive the Eucharist is not something one can decide on his or her own. Rather, it requires that a person be prepared through catechesis to embrace fully the Catholic Faith, and then enter into communion with the Church. Full communion is then accomplished when one receives Holy Communion — the required steps cannot be short-circuited. It is in this way that the Holy Father’s comments must be interpreted…
 
Please Lord, Bless and protect Cardinal Burke, and all Bishops, Priests and Religious across the world who shepherd and teach Your children.
 
” The Pope cannot teach us or urge us to do anything other than what the Church has always taught and practiced."

Yikes…it is discouraging to read this. It appears that Cardinal Burke is attacking any Pope who ever implemented any changes or advances or developments in Church teaching; this is utterly absurd, of course.

The good Cardinal sounds like quite frustrated; almost like a child throwing a tantrum because he did not get his way. We should all pray for Cardinal Burke that his mind and heart are opened. Burke’s comments are becoming more and more defamatory …and he is sowing division within the Church. The Pope has taught nothing against the Jesus’ teachings…

These diatribes are heart wrenching
 
** I hear this from many good priests; even bishops talk to me about the difficulty of dealing with confusion when they present the Church’s teaching. T**hey are told they are not in step with the current practice of the Church or even that they are against the Pope****.

I see this frequently here.
 
” The Pope cannot teach us or urge us to do anything other than what the Church has always taught and practiced."

Yikes…it is discouraging to read this. It appears that Cardinal Burke is attacking any Pope who ever implemented any changes or advances or developments in Church teaching; this is utterly absurd, of course.

The good Cardinal sounds like quite frustrated; almost like a child throwing a tantrum because he did not get his way. We should all pray for Cardinal Burke that his mind and heart are opened. Burke’s comments are becoming more and more defamatory …and he is sowing division within the Church. The Pope has taught nothing against the Jesus’ teachings…

These diatribes are heart wrenching
Maybe you need to re-read what Cardinal Burke said, very carefully. He is right whither you like it or not. God Bless, Memaw
 
godisgood77;13625947 said:
”The Pope cannot teach us or urge us to do anything other than what the Church has always taught and practiced."

Yikes…it is discouraging to read this. It appears that Cardinal Burke is attacking any Pope who ever implemented any changes or advances or developments in Church teaching; this is utterly absurd, of course.

The context of the Cardinal’s comment was in regard to an issue that cannot change or develop:

The bottom line is this:*** the Pope cannot teach anything that the Church has not always taught with regard to reception of the Holy Eucharist***. *One who does not have Catholic Faith in the Eucharist may not approach to receive the sacrament. Moreover, the faith required to receive the Eucharist is not something one can decide on his or her own. *Rather, it requires that a person be prepared through catechesis to embrace fully the Catholic Faith, and then enter into communion with the Church.
This is something the Holy Father understood when talking to the Lutheran women in question:

“I wouldn’t ever dare to allow this, because it’s not my competence".

In addition the Cardinal was not attacking anybody, rather he was clarifying any doubts the Faithful may have had concerning the Holy Father’s discussion with the woman, doubts which were understandable. God bless him for the clarification.

Mike
 
” The Pope cannot teach us or urge us to do anything other than what the Church has always taught and practiced."

Yikes…it is discouraging to read this. It appears that Cardinal Burke is attacking any Pope who ever implemented any changes or advances or developments in Church teaching; this is utterly absurd, of course.

The good Cardinal sounds like quite frustrated; almost like a child throwing a tantrum because he did not get his way. We should all pray for Cardinal Burke that his mind and heart are opened. Burke’s comments are becoming more and more defamatory …and he is sowing division within the Church. The Pope has taught nothing against the Jesus’ teachings…

These diatribes are heart wrenching
At least he hasn’t gone so far as to publicly accuse anyone of “throwing a tantrum”, being closed minded and closed hearted, being defamatory, “sowing division within the church” and producing “diatribes”. Those would be far more serious accusations :ehh:
 
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