Inventions/Superstitions

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whatistrue said:
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Hope1960:
I’m not being spiritually fed at the CC.
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Sorry, I though you said boredom was the issue.
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She did.

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Aren’t they related? If someone is bored, they aren’t being spiritually fed and if they don’t feel spiritually fed, they get bored. They don’t have to be the same but I can certainly see a relationship.
 
Pattylt said:
Aren’t they related? If someone is bored, they aren’t being spiritually fed and if they don’t feel spiritually fed, they get bored. They don’t have to be the same but I can certainly see a relationship.
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They can be related, but one can certainly be entertained without being spiritually fed and spiritually fed without being entertained.
 
Hope1960 said:
I’m not being spiritually fed at the CC.
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How are the Catholic Churches you attended letting you down as far as spiritual nourishment go? What type of Spiritual nourishment are you looking for at this point on the journey
 
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Tru dat! I just get the feeling…and I could be wrong…that Hope’s issue is a combination of these. For whatever reason, she craves an emotional spiritual experience and she doesn’t feel this at Mass…so she gets bored.

I certainly don’t have an answer for her. I think many DO find both spirituality and entertainment (however you define it) at Mass. Thus, they don’t understand why she doesn’t. She might not understand why either. She is definitely seeking something…and she may never find it or…just one more church will be the one!

Sorry to be talking about you, @Hope1960, instead of to you. Can you define what exactly you’re searching for or is it just a, “I’ll know it when I see it”?
 
Pattylt said:
Aren’t they related? If someone is bored, they aren’t being spiritually fed and if they don’t feel spiritually fed, they get bored. They don’t have to be the same but I can certainly see a relationship.
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That’s exactly correct!
 
OurLadyofSorrows said:
How are the Catholic Churches you attended letting you down as far as spiritual nourishment go? What type of Spiritual nourishment are you looking for at this point on the journey
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I want to feel the presence of the Holy Spirit, and of course, sermons that keep my attention, that are relatable which touch my heart and spirit.
 
Do you think that’s a fair statement? I think she was trying to do it right and was failing. Maybe she was doing something wrong but, if so, can anyone identify it?

This sounds like a blame the victim scenario…she didn’t feel nourished like you do so it’s her fault? She really enjoys many of the entertaining aspects of other types of churches so it’s her fault that she enjoys those types? Everyone seems to be telling her to lower her expectations. Why should she? Is it just because that’s the only way Mass will appeal to her? That would work if she can do that but what if she just can’t?
 
whatistrue said:
Not if you are doing it right, no.
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Doing WHAT right? I partook of the Sacraments, I participated at Mass. i watch the priest when he’s at the altar. I talk to my (former) priests when I need to. What else IS there?
 
I honestly don’t know. Based on posting history, it looked to me as if it was a matter of someone who was looking for thrills and excitement, but then kept getting sidetracked by questions about evolution vs YEC. Perhaps I was hasty and/or wrong. I am going to step back from this thread so I don’t risk getting wrapped up in my own ideas and not paying attention to what is actually going on.
 
Pattylt said:
Do you think that’s a fair statement? I think she was trying to do it right and was failing. Maybe she was doing something wrong but, if so, can anyone identify it?

This sounds like a blame the victim scenario…she didn’t feel nourished like you do so it’s her fault? She really enjoys many of the entertaining aspects of other types of churches so it’s her fault that she enjoys those types? Everyone seems to be telling her to lower her expectations. Why should she? Is it just because that’s the only way Mass will appeal to her? That would work if she can do that but what if she just can’t?
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Thanks Patty. I’ve read people suggest to others, here, to just go to Adoration. I’ve done that MANY times, as well as Our Lady of Perpetual Help, and Stations of the Cross (during Lent, of course). I’ve participated in three different Catholic Bible Studies. What ELSE is there?
 
Please see my latest reply to @Pattylt. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain; he is just some random dude on the Internet spouting off while he should be doing something else.
 
whatistrue said:
Perhaps I was hasty and/or wrong. I am going to step back from this thread so I don’t risk getting wrapped up in my own ideas and not paying attention to what is actually going on.
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Right on, brother.
 
I just wanted to get answers to my first question and maybe discuss something related, if the thread continued. Not have Bash Hope Days.
 
I’m not sure. You really seem to be seeking something…can you identify what it is? If there was a Mass that was given along the lines of a non denomination church, would that be enough? If you found a Priest that gave homilies with the passion and relevance of some other Pastors, would that be enough? Are you looking for a Mass that looks like a Pentecostal but was Catholic, would that do?

I can’t give you answers, I’m not even religious. But, I do remember synagogue services where I was moved to tears and other times I was bored to tears…and the same Rabbi! I found that the closer I felt to God, the better the services seemed. When God and I were parting ways, I became restless and bored. So, it may be your internal state with God or just a misperception on what you expect and what is given to you.

Keep searching. Keep discussing this with a Priest you trust or a spiritual director and BE HONEST with them. We often have a tendency to answer what we think they want. Tell them what you want and why…or figure it out together. I wish you peace. Spiritual discernment is hard and upsetting. Resolution is marvelous!
 
Ha, I had to go back and read your original post to find the questions. The first several posts seem to answer your questions, yes? Perhaps state what you are still unclear on.

Yes, we really did go off the rails here. I’m sorry.
 
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