Iran endorses EMP attack on the US

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mikekle said:
washingtonexaminer.com/iran-endorses-nuclear-emp-attack-on-united-states/article/2561733#.VQsPKDaEmlk.twitter

I was not that surprised at this, but still, its scary to think if someone did set off an EMP attack in the US, that would send us back to the stone ages for weeks, by then, I dont think society could come back, it would be too far gone imo.
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Maybe not in the heavily populated areas, but those of us in the middle of nowhere will be just fine. (Once the internet withdrawal subsides, that is.)
 
Dawnia said:
Maybe not in the heavily populated areas, but those of us in the middle of nowhere will be just fine. (Once the internet withdrawal subsides, that is.)
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Only if by “just fine” is meant living at a down-to-nature survival level.

Not everybody living in rural areas is prepared to do that.

A successful EMP attack would extend across the continent; there is no way to shield a continent.

ICXC NIKA
 
This can’t be true. Iran is our friend now. We’re negotiating with them after all.
 
Nelka said:
I had a 45 minute power cut the other month, I couldn’t cook go on the internet or anything.

Can an EMP knock out cars?
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Yes it can, pRticularly the modern type having electronic control circuits.
 
GEddie said:
Only if by “just fine” is meant living at a down-to-nature survival level.

Not everybody living in rural areas is prepared to do that.

A successful EMP attack would extend across the continent; there is no way to shield a continent.

ICXC NIKA
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People can live quite comfortably without all of the modern conveniences.
 
Dawnia said:
People can live quite comfortably without all of the modern conveniences.
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I agree, the first few days may be a bit uncomfortable for them, but humans are fairly good at adapting to new things, plus if you look at the numbers, cell phones and the like have really only been super popular since about the time 9-11 happened, so not really that long…if suddenly had to do without them, I dont think that would cause too much havoc, but the loss of electric and vehicles would be the major issues, finding fresh food would be another, after about 4 days without food, that is when your neighbor will kill over food.
 
Dawnia said:
People can live quite comfortably without all of the modern conveniences.
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Rural people are still very dependent on electricity.

Think of all the non-electric powered “basics” you would still need that are dependent on electricity or their manufacture and distribution.

Unless you are prepared, it will be rough. And you cant prepare after it happens.
 
I dont think the US could come back from a single EMP attack, it would mean every single vehicle out there would need costly repairs…that alone is probably an impossible task, and the more time that goes by, the further away form being civilized communities will become, there will be no police, no fire depts, no way for goods to move around, this would turn into a ‘walking dead’ type of world pretty quickly.
 
I understand the concern of this, and it’s a possibility. However, there are several reasons I think such an attack is unlikely:
  1. Iran may be crazy, but they’re not stupid. They know the size of the US military, and that anything they can do to us, we can do to them a hundredfold. It’s just like North Korea; they’d be committing suicide. And that’s not counting the rest of the free world turning on them.
1.5) high-value buildings in D.C. are built to withstand an EMP, so our government could still order retaliation.
  1. If they were seriously planning it, they wouldn’t have let it become public knowledge. They would have kept it above top secret and attempted it as a surprise attack.
  2. Our government may be incompetent, but not so incompetent that they wouldn’t have a contingency plan for a situation just like this.
 
First of all, people need to be aware that Peter Vincent Pry is an outspoken Zionist, and therefore it’s unsurprising he’s making ridiculous and unfounded claims about Iran. But foul war mongering and war propaganda aside, natural EMPs are an urgent concern. The U.S. needs to prioritize upgrading it’s electrical grid - it’s madness to do otherwise.

cnbc.com/id/101875747

m.phys.org/news/2014-07-earth-survived-near-miss-solar-storm.html

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110302-solar-flares-sun-storms-earth-danger-carrington-event-science/

It’s only a matter of time before another natural EMP wipes out the American grid again. The next time might very well result in the extinction of the human species. The reason I say that is because there are over 400 nuclear reactors on Earth, and if their cooling systems stop working we will all die. Most of them have back-up power generators for a week or two, but after that meltdowns will be inevitable. And that’s assuming the generators themselves are shielded from EMPs. Either way, if a massive solar flare fries the world grid system for months or years, we’re all dead. The probability of another solar flare as large as, or larger than, the Carrington Event is 100%. It’s simply a question of when. Given these facts, I don’t see why humanity doesn’t take steps to protect itself. There are ways to shield the entire planetary grid from all EMPs…
 
mikekle said:
I dont think the US could come back from a single EMP attack, it would mean every single vehicle out there would need costly repairs…that alone is probably an impossible task, and the more time that goes by, the further away form being civilized communities will become, there will be no police, no fire depts, no way for goods to move around, this would turn into a ‘walking dead’ type of world pretty quickly.
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:rolleyes: Seriously? People lived in civilized communities for thousands of years before electricity. There was also booming trade, travel, police and fire departments.
 
Dawnia said:
:rolleyes: Seriously? People lived in civilized communities for thousands of years before electricity. There was also booming trade, travel, police and fire departments.
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And populations less than 1/10 what we see now, and, except the Roman Enpire, far smaller in land surface; and making extensive use of slavery, serfdom, etc.

People who now work in offices and factories will not adjust well to growing their own food. There would be chaos for generations, the population would fall by more than two thirds, before the USA reformed into several smaller nations, with the most ruthless in them becoming the new feudalists.

Yes, of course, down to nature life is possible, but should not be romanticized. Technology made slavery and gender inequality unnecessary. Lose the technology and those other social practices would return, as we have not become better people.

ICXC NIKA.
 
Dawnia said:
:rolleyes: Seriously? People lived in civilized communities for thousands of years before electricity. There was also booming trade, travel, police and fire departments.
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If electric motors are affected, city water pumps won’t work. I don’t know how your suppose to live and farm without water.
 
Wow. What with their massive fleets of EMP vehicles… Wait a minute. They don’t?

Never mind.

Ed

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Tbrightson said:
Our dependence on the electrical grid and lack of protection from EMP is the clay feet of our country.
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It’s not like no one in the military or Department of Defense is aware of this and doing something about it.

Ed
 
Dawnia said:
Water and farming were around before electricity.
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No one is arguing that human life would not go on in a down-to -nature collapse event.

But it wouldn’t be this society as we know it anymore; nor would technology be all that was lost.

ICXC NIKA
 
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