Iran girl gets 100 lashes for sex

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Iran girl gets 100 lashes for sex

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40652000/jpg/_40652199_demo_b203_ap.jpg The UN has criticised Iran over its treatment of women and girls

A teenage girl and two young men in Iran have been sentenced to lashes for having sex.

The court dismissed the girl’s claim that we was raped. It said she had sex of her own free will, the official Iran Daily newspaper reported.

The girl was sentenced to 100 lashes because her accusations of rape and kidnap could have landed her partners a death penalty, the Tehran judge said.

Sex outside marriage is illegal in Iran and capital punishment can be imposed. The young men in the case were sentenced to 30 and 40 lashes each.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4295111.stm
 
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gilliam:
Iran girl gets 100 lashes for sex

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40652000/jpg/_40652199_demo_b203_ap.jpg The UN has criticised Iran over its treatment of women and girls

A teenage girl and two young men in Iran have been sentenced to lashes for having sex.

The court dismissed the girl’s claim that we was raped. It said she had sex of her own free will, the official Iran Daily newspaper reported.

The girl was sentenced to 100 lashes because her accusations of rape and kidnap could have landed her partners a death penalty, the Tehran judge said.

Sex outside marriage is illegal in Iran and capital punishment can be imposed. The young men in the case were sentenced to 30 and 40 lashes each.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4295111.stm
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gilliam:
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Apparently my glasses aren’t cutting it because I find this photograph to be very ambiguous. She looks to me like she is both buried up to her neck with a noose tied around it?

How is she being lashed in this postion?
 
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gilliam:
I think it is a picture of a stonning. I don’t know why it was with the article. But it was.
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For a stoning, a woman is buried up to her breasts, and a man is buried up to his neck, and if they can pull themselves out while being stoned , then they can go free. But you’re right, it does look like a stoning.
 
And how are Shuria Muslims not barbaric? Am I missing something?
 
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Apologia100:
And how are Shuria Muslims not barbaric? Am I missing something?
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I think it is how much of Shura law you take to the letter of the law and how much you interpret for ‘modern’ times. In a few places in this world we have examples of strict interpretation of Shura law. Iran, the old Taliban’s Afghanistan, Fallujah, etc.

In Iran, I think the people would choose to have a looser interpretation, if they could get away with it. Just my impression from news reports coming out of that country.

I don’t see the Muslim world clammering for a strict adherence to Shura for everyone. Maybe that is bin Laden’s dream, but it isn’t the majority’s dream.

But we should not ignore Iran. We need to understand that this is the future the terrorists want for a large part of the world.
 
I hope you noticed the disparity here. The young woman was raped and she gets 100 lashes because they are afraid of accepting that she was raped because the punishment for rape is death. The young men involved get a less severe punishment than the girl who was raped.

Thank God I live in a western Christian society.

MaggieOH
 
Another reason I do not feel comfortable with Iran having a Nuke.
 
Michael C:
Another reason I do not feel comfortable with Iran having a Nuke.
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let me guess, it is because of their twisted sense of Justice?
 
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gilliam:
The court dismissed the girl’s claim that we was raped. It said she had sex of her own free will, the official Iran Daily newspaper reported.
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What is something to consider is whether the court was right. Was she making a false accusation of rape to get out of it?
 
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jdnation:
What is something to consider is whether the court was right. Was she making a false accusation of rape to get out of it?
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In case you hadn’t heard, women are not on the same legal playing field as men. Plus, it takes 3 or 4 witnesses to estabish guilt. Since it was her word against theirs, she is guilty.
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
In case you hadn’t heard, women are not on the same legal playing field as men. Plus, it takes 3 or 4 witnesses to estabish guilt. Since it was her word against theirs, she is guilty.
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That makes me feel much better. I thought for a minute their justice system was screwed up.
 
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jdnation:
What is something to consider is whether the court was right. Was she making a false accusation of rape to get out of it?
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How many rape cases do you know where the men have actually admitted their wrong doing?

It is normal practice that men claim that the victim enjoyed the activity. I was thinking on this over night and I was reminded of the horrible traumas some Australian girls have faced after being kidnapped and raped by men of Middle Eastern Origin (please read Lebanese Muslim). They have no respect for the western girls and treat them as though they are asking for it.

However, the wording that was given in this case about not wanting to put these two men to death for rape is ringing alarm bells. That is they more than likely lied to the court.

We are not talking about a western style court here but about an Islamic court where the women have no rights and no protection.

MaggieOH
 
Well. It sounds like she got a good spanking. What’s the problemo? Were they supposed to give her a medal or something?
 
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MaggieOH:
How many rape cases do you know where the men have actually admitted their wrong doing?

It is normal practice that men claim that the victim enjoyed the activity. I was thinking on this over night and I was reminded of the horrible traumas some Australian girls have faced after being kidnapped and raped by men of Middle Eastern Origin (please read Lebanese Muslim). They have no respect for the western girls and treat them as though they are asking for it.

However, the wording that was given in this case about not wanting to put these two men to death for rape is ringing alarm bells. That is they more than likely lied to the court.

We are not talking about a western style court here but about an Islamic court where the women have no rights and no protection.

MaggieOH
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That’s quite a tragedy. Anybody know if the Sharia Law is part of of mainstream Islam? Or is this taken from fundaliteralist Islam? There seems to be quite a lot of confusion going about within them.

I’m not too keen on hearing the side of of these stories dealing with religion specifically from some of the Women’s Rights groups as they seem quite against all the Abrahamic religions including Christianity and criticize the Old and New Testaments as portraying women as inferior to men. When in reality it is only about established roles, that given the times in which the Israelites lived in the laws were best suited for them, and that anybody who actually takes the time to study the OT laws actually finds that the law is more lenient with women and is very inclusive of them. Something unprecedented for its time.
 
i dont know about that. i have read the Koran, and it actually encourages men to beat their wives daily to teach them to be obediant and subserviant and respectful of their husbands.
 
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i dont know about that. i have read the Koran, and it actually encourages men to beat their wives daily to teach them to be obediant and subserviant and respectful of their husbands.
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Well the Bible teaches us to beat our children, but not without good reason. So we’d have to be careful about just quoting Scripture. I’m not trying to make a case for Islam here, but simply want to know the facts between what the Islamic governments do and what the religion teaches. After all, say America is a Christian country, but that doesn’t mean the government is a Christian one. For example some of you may have come across a list like this:

"Following are some rights, which Islam was first to give women and Muslim women have!
1. The RIGHT and duty to acquire education.

2. The RIGHT to have her own independent property.

3. The RIGHT to work [job or business] to earn money, which she keeps it.

4. The RIGHT to equal reward for equal deed and/or work.

5. The RIGHT to express her opinion.

6. The RIGHT to argue and/or advocate her cause or opinion to be heard.

7. The RIGHT to vote since 1,421 years.

8. The RIGHT to provisions from her husband for all her needs and more.

9. The RIGHT to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

10.The RIGHT to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply don’t like him. In Islaam divorce is suppose to be last resort.

11.The RIGHT to keep all her own money. [She is not responsible for maintenance of family].

12.The RIGHT to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

13.The RIGHT to get custody of her children in case of divorce [unless she is unable to raise them for valid reasons]

14.The RIGHT to choose husband of her choice.

15.The RIGHT to refuse a proposed and/or arranged marriage.

16. The RIGHT to re-marry after divorce or after becoming widow.

Islamic laws does not requires that women should confine themselves to household duties.

Muslim women have [and are as well] headed Islamic provinces [and states as well], like Arwa bint Ahmad, who served as governor of Yemen under the Fatimid Khalifahs in the late fifth and early sixth century."

So is this something that mainstream Islam has promoted? As gilliam pointed out, the Sharia law is not accepted by the majority and seems to be based on a fundaliteralist Koran reading.
 
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