Iran un-veils: Will they Supply al Qaeda with a Nuclear Weapon?

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Jack Kelly has written an excellent rundown of the situation in Iran that bullet-points what we face. The prospects are grim. The situation clear. Does anyone have the courage to recognize the signs for what they are?

Even in a diminished electorate comprised largely of government employees, Revolutionary Guardsmen and secret policemen, Ahmadeinejad required help to reach the runoff. Michael Ledeen, the Iran expert who writes for National Review, reported that his sources told him about 7 million people voted in the first round of the election June 17. Yet 29 million ballots were cast. The blatant manipulation of an already sham election to install a hard-line reactionary as president suggests that the Ayatollah Khameini, chief of the Guardian Council, no longer sees a need to put a “reformist” face on the regime.

That suggests to me that Iran is very close to – or already possesses – a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it.


Simply stated: Concur.

Jack Kelly bullets several items that have been reported regarding Iran and al Qaeda:

1.) An Iranian exile warned the CIA of a 2003 al-Qaeda plot to hijack a Canadian aircraft and fly it into the Seabrook (NH) nuclear plant. The CIA dismissed him. 2.) Iran has no fewer than three top al Qaeda operatives under ‘house arrest’. While others dispute Iran’s ‘house arrest’ claim, that it is no more than ‘house arrest’ should be telling enough.

3.) bin Laden himself is said to have been to Iran last year to discuss attack plans on the US. (I commented on the Iranian influence that was apparent in his 30October04 video message.)

4.) 9/11 conspirator Ramzi bin al Shibh spent a month in Iran prior to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Jack rightly concludes that al Qaeda may be no further from a nuclear weapon than Iran is…and that is not far off at best.

If al-Qaida and the mullahs are in cahoots, then al-Qaida may get the bomb when Iran does. The war on terror could be about to heat up in a very, very big way. In the meantime, now that the mullahs have discarded their “moderate” mask, there likely will be a bloody crackdown on dissidents.

Meanwhile, the Iranian people continue their struggle to free themselves of the mullahcracy.

For Iranians to be able to take their country back, it will require a deep well of courage on their part and no small amount of direct support on our part. If either falls short, a direct military confrontation is inevitable.

May we not wait around for the need to counterstrike. The time to act is now.

Support the Iranians now or confront the mullahs later. There is no palatable option at this point.

Take your pick, America.

wordunheard.com/archives/2005/07/iran_unveils_wi.php
 
If al-Qaida and the mullahs are in cahoots, then al-Qaida may get the bomb when Iran does.
Didn’t we hear this same hysterical nonsense before the Iraq invasion? This shows the contempt the neocons have for the intelligence of the American people. If they had the least bit respect for our discernment, they would at least try to refine the propaganda a bit.
 
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gnjsdad:
Didn’t we hear this same hysterical nonsense before the Iraq invasion? This shows the contempt the neocons have for the intelligence of the American people. If they had the least bit respect for our discernment, they would at least try to refine the propaganda a bit.
Jack Kelly is a neo-con?
 
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gilliam:
Jack Kelly is a neo-con?
To be honest, I haven’t the faintest idea who Jack Kelly is.

The sentence I quoted was without doubt an argument the neocons used to promote the invasion of Iraq.

I find the notion that Iran would go to the trouble of developing a nuclear weapon which it would then “give” to Al Qaeda to use in an attack on America (a weapon with a Tehran return address, BTW, the use of which would provoke a massive nuclear response by the US ) absurd on its face.
 
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gnjsdad:
To be honest, I haven’t the faintest idea who Jack Kelly is. .
Jack Kelly is national security writer for the Post-Gazette and The Blade of Toledo, Ohio. He is a pretty famous reporter.
 
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gnjsdad:
Didn’t we hear this same hysterical nonsense before the Iraq invasion? This shows the contempt the neocons have for the intelligence of the American people. If they had the least bit respect for our discernment, they would at least try to refine the propaganda a bit.
Are you kidding me? What rock are you living under? You think that there isn’t people in the leadership of Iran and Al Qaeda that wouldn’t love to drop a nuclear bomb on the U.S.?
 
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Brad:
Are you kidding me? What rock are you living under? You think that there isn’t people in the leadership of Iran and Al Qaeda that wouldn’t love to drop a nuclear bomb on the U.S.?
You obviously didn’t read my post very carefully. I ridiculed the notion that Iran would develop a nuclear weapon and then give that weapon to Al Qaeda knowing that it would be traced back to Tehran and knowing what the US would do in response.

Are there people in the Iranian leadership who would want to drop a nuke on the U.S.? Perhaps - if they could get away with it, which they can’t. Would Al Qaeda want to do the same? Definitely.

Incidentally, I submit that it is the supporters of the current policy that have their heads in the sand regarding the nature of terrorism. Today’s events in London illustrate the utter bankruptcy of the claim that *We’re fighting them in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here. *How many Londoners were thinking just that yesterday?
 
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gnjsdad:
You obviously didn’t read my post very carefully. I ridiculed the notion that Iran would develop a nuclear weapon and then give that weapon to Al Qaeda knowing that it would be traced back to Tehran and knowing what the US would do in response.

Are there people in the Iranian leadership who would want to drop a nuke on the U.S.? Perhaps - if they could get away with it, which they can’t. Would Al Qaeda want to do the same? Definitely.

Incidentally, I submit that it is the supporters of the current policy that have their heads in the sand regarding the nature of terrorism. Today’s events in London illustrate the utter bankruptcy of the claim that *We’re fighting them in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here. *How many Londoners were thinking just that yesterday?
Just in case you don’t know,if they die in battle they will have 72 virgins for eternity:hmmm: That is exactly what they will be thinking when they drop it too:nope:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Just in case you don’t know,if they die in battle they will have 72 virgins for eternity:hmmm: That is exactly what they will be thinking when they drop it too:nope:
No, that’s your everyday Johnny Jihad suicide bomber. Tehran’s not dumb enough (I hope) to give away a bomb that could easily be traced back to them.
 
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gnjsdad:
Today’s events in London illustrate the utter bankruptcy of the claim that We’re fighting them in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here. How many Londoners were thinking just that yesterday?
That’s the first thing that popped into my head, too.
 
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gnjsdad:
Today’s events in London illustrate the utter bankruptcy of the claim that *We’re fighting them in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here. *How many Londoners were thinking just that yesterday?
Thekla and you have convinced me. We should just quit. This will all probably just go away.
 
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Stu:
Wanna bet your life on it?
It’s called MADD. They know if there is even a chance we’ll trace it back to them, we’ll vaporize there crappy little country.
 
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Stu:
Thekla and you have convinced me. We should just quit. This will all probably just go away.
Why not: seal off the border’s, kick out every Arab who doesn’t have a green card. Tell the rest of the world to deal w/ their own mess.
 
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wabrams:
It’s called MADD. They know if there is even a chance we’ll trace it back to them, we’ll vaporize there crappy little country.
That only works with an enemy who either shares western logic or doesn’t want to die themselves. Both criteria are lacking at times in that region of the world.
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wabrams:
Why not: seal off the border’s, kick out every Arab who doesn’t have a green card. Tell the rest of the world to deal w/ their own mess.
That’s worked real well for North Korea. Not very realistic in this day and age. The economy is global make our involvement certain.
 
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Stu:
That only works with an enemy who either shares western logic or doesn’t want to die themselves. Both are lacking at times in that region of the world.
With regards to Al Qaeda, I completely agree with you. But as much as Iran claims to love terrorist, they dont’ have the guts to attack the US unless we invade. The guys in charge over their aren’t a bunch of immams; they don’t want to be blown off the face of the earth. They enjoy their lavish palaces and lifestyles too much.
 
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Stu:
That’s worked real well for North Korea. Not very realistic in this day and age. The economy is global make our involvement certain.
Nothing in our economy dictates we have to let Arabs in this country or everything colapses. So what if a couple of countries get ticked off we don’t let 'em in, but they’ll still do business with us.
 
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wabrams:
With regards to Al Qaeda, I completely agree with you. But as much as Iran claims to love terrorist, they dont’ have the guts to attack the US unless we invade. The guys in charge over their aren’t a bunch of immams; they don’t want to be blown off the face of the earth. They enjoy their lavish palaces and lifestyles too much.
I don’t totally disagree but that does not lessen my concern one bit given the stakes. It only takes one “nut-job” within the Iranian government to hand “something” over (meaning a small tactcal nuke or radioactive material vice a cruise missile).

Remember the Pakistani scientist who was acting on his own?
 
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wabrams:
Nothing in our economy dictates we have to let Arabs in this country or everything colapses. So what if a couple of countries get ticked off we don’t let 'em in, but they’ll still do business with us.
If your going to do business in the outside world, then you have to be prepared to fight and shape the outside world as well. The only way to achieve your ideal would be a closed, self-sufficient country. That has never work for any country throughout history.
 
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Stu:
If your going to do business in the outside world, then you have to be prepared to fight and shape the outside world as well.
No, you don’t. Japan doesn’t do it, but sells a ton of electronics. Germany doesn’t do it, but sells great cars.
 
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