Ireland referendum rigged!

[angel12]

Please read all posts in the thread.

Please look at facts before making accusations of fraud.

 

[Rob2]

Rob2:

Silly blogs do no service to the Catholic Church in Ireland .

Nor do pro-abortion voting “catholics”!

There is no evidence for it .

Now tell me the referendum wasn’t rigged.

The referendum wasn’t rigged .

 

[whyeyeman]

rigging elections is so terribly easy now that voting is electronic

Irish elections don’t use electric ballots. They use paper ballots

 

[Rob2]

Roguish:

rigging elections is so terribly easy now that voting is electronic

Irish elections don’t use electric ballots. They use paper ballots

I wouldn’t expect too much accuracy on this thread .

After all the blog which gave rise to the OP says , “Sinn Fein is a criminal enterprise controlled by British intelligence .”

 

[angel12]

After all the blog which gave rise to the OP says , “Sinn Fein is a criminal enterprise controlled by British intelligence .”

Well, that explains everything! Oh, wait . . .

 

[Augustinian]

So you’re saying the referendum wasn’t rigged?

I can’t say that for sure, just that it doesn’t seem likely it was rigged.

A high number of Irish here in America are in favor of abortion, Boston MA has the highest percentage of Irish per any large US city and is also one of the highest for support of abortion too

 

[FiveLinden]

Might be time to get past denial.

 

[ATraveller]

Ireland as a nation has joined the rest of the West. Godless, self-centred and so on.
What is accomplished by denying Ireland’s dire state? Nothing.

 

[Brendan_64]

Not anymore.
As you said yourself, Ireland was a traditionally Catholic country. If the same polls were to be conducted 50 years ago, it would have different results.

I’d agree with that.

I think Ireland has been a ‘culturally Catholic’ country for the past couple of decades or so. The sex-abuse scandals have certainly harmed the authority of the Church in Ireland.

But I think there is more too it than just that. I think that within the Irish national psyche there is an inferiority complex (and I speak as an Irishman) with big chips on shoulders. Wanting to be seen as a modern European nation just like the others had perhaps played in things.

 

[Sarcelle]

I have seen the same inferiority complex in other historically Catholic countries.

The view that it is the Church and its doctrines that are standing in the way of national prosperity. A casual observer will often notice that traditionally Catholic countries are often poor and overpopulated.

 

[Augustinian]

A casual observer will often notice that traditionally Catholic countries are often poor and overpopulated.

Ireland’s population is less now than it was in the 1840’s. Hardly “overpopulated” at all

 

[QContinuum]

The view that it is the Church and its doctrines that are standing in the way of national prosperity. A casual observer will often notice that traditionally Catholic countries are often poor and overpopulated.

This. Exactly.

 

[QContinuum]

Yeah, but it was poor until just a few decades ago. Then the Celtic Tiger went bust in 2008 like everything else.

I think some of this is angst over a slower economy.

 

[Augustinian]

often poor and overpopulated.

That’s really not true, any number of Catholic nations have had long era of prosperity.

Now, if you are in the United States, and you are looking at mostly Catholic immigrants- people don’t leave countries that are wealthy that much. Very few immigrants from Poland came over with ponies, example given.

 

[QContinuum]

That’s really not true,

It’s not true that it’s a common perception that Catholic countries are overpopulated and poor? Because that was what I was agreeing with.

 

[Augustinian]

It’s not true that it’s a common perception that Catholic countries are overpopulated and poor? Because that was what I was agreeing with.

I’m saying the perception is wrong, not that people don’t have the perception

 

[QContinuum]

Ok, that’s what I thought. I wasn’t making the assertion either, merely agreeing that a lot of people think it’s true.

 

[PJH_74]

The truth is Ireland a stable country and has an elected government. It’s near impossible to rig an election in such an environment. The other truth is this is the result most of you didn’t want, that doesn’t make the vote invalid.

Much as in America, conspiracy theories about the voting system are self-serving attacks on the core stability of a nation when unwarranted. This is not to start a political debate, but we saw this with our recent Presidential election. Mr Trump won fairly by our system, Mrs. Clinton conceded defeat and moved on. However needless conspiracy theories about 3 million illegal people causing Mr Trump to lose the popular vote, no matter the shear scale of the number of voting districts that would have to been involved and usually one off history of such things, they still abounded. Ego or disagreeing with a result with no basis can start a downward spiral of social stability.

 

[Axsenex]

That’s funny because it’s the best method of voting for obvious reason.

 

[Roguish]

Roguish:

Please read all posts in the thread.

Please look at facts before making accusations of fraud.

You mean “You’re right, I was picking on something (i.e. the electronic voting) that had already been discussed a few posts earlier and that I had not read. And now I’m lashing out because I can’t stand being corrected.”

It’s okay, Angel. I ain’t mad atcha. Well, maybe a little bit, but it’s fading. Have a great day.