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Dale_M
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It is good that disaffected Catholics have not placed their allegiance elsewhere. Perhaps this would make it easier to win their good will back.
Question 12 of 2011 Census asked:
Question 12 of 2011 Census asked:
census.ie/uploads/documents/English_Household_form_with_do_not_complete_stamp-_2011.pdf
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Cato_Minor
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84% Catholic but yet the largest diocese in the country, Dublin, has reported Mass attendance as low as 14%, with some parishes reporting attendance at low single figures.
Catholic seems to be as much as a cultural label as it is a religious one.
As is noted above, it might give some hope that some can be one back given their willingness to identify as Catholic and that they have not yet gone anywhere else.
Catholic seems to be as much as a cultural label as it is a religious one.
As is noted above, it might give some hope that some can be one back given their willingness to identify as Catholic and that they have not yet gone anywhere else.
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irishOntarian
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It’s good that so many Irish identify themselves as Catholics, but Ireland needs a spiritual revival so that the people are not Catholic in name only. It’s sad that the people who held out so well against English persecution for the sake of their Faith (my own ancestors were Irish) could have fallen so much in a time of peace.
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Cato_Minor
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I think that many in authority in the Irish RCC are afraid of asserting the full range of teachings of the church and insisting that people assent to them and that they play an active part in the life of the church by participating in the sacraments, because they fear that doing so will drive many away.
Their current approach, where children are allowed to make their First Communion and Confession, who have never/rarely been to church before that and likely won’t until their Confirmation and then only for ‘events’, and where religious instruction is watered down and where priests give fluffy nebulous sermons, is in danger of, or already has to some extent, merely reducing the church in Ireland down to a shallow cultural feature of Irish life that people use for ‘events’ and little else.
It’s going to be interesting to see how they handle this over the next decade.
The parish I live in now insists on children attending a certain amount of masses in the lead in to their First Communion and they have to get cards stamped to prove it. The PP is even insisting that both parents attend a majority of the masses. This has not gone down well, but people grumble and comply. After First Communion is made, many stop going again. My son will be heading into second class next year; the first communion class. My wife is facing her own little dilemma on the whole thing!
Their current approach, where children are allowed to make their First Communion and Confession, who have never/rarely been to church before that and likely won’t until their Confirmation and then only for ‘events’, and where religious instruction is watered down and where priests give fluffy nebulous sermons, is in danger of, or already has to some extent, merely reducing the church in Ireland down to a shallow cultural feature of Irish life that people use for ‘events’ and little else.
It’s going to be interesting to see how they handle this over the next decade.
The parish I live in now insists on children attending a certain amount of masses in the lead in to their First Communion and they have to get cards stamped to prove it. The PP is even insisting that both parents attend a majority of the masses. This has not gone down well, but people grumble and comply. After First Communion is made, many stop going again. My son will be heading into second class next year; the first communion class. My wife is facing her own little dilemma on the whole thing!
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pepipop
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Yes, I agree with all your post. No doubt the abuse scandal has also affected their reluctance to be more assertive in their sermons. Lets hope the eucharistic congress and the renewal movement in Ireland will help, overall.
I, personally, find all masses - at different times/churches - I attend on Sunday to be packed in Dublin. The fall of the celtic tiger should increase religious fevour too.*
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GEddie
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Maybe the Holy Spirit will lead WYD 18 to Dublin!It’s good that so many Irish identify themselves as Catholics, but Ireland needs a spiritual revival so that the people are not Catholic in name only. It’s sad that the people who held out so well against English persecution for the sake of their Faith (my own ancestors were Irish) could have fallen so much in a time of peace.
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GEddie
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It is sad, but very much in line with what happened in Biblical and other historic times.It’s good that so many Irish identify themselves as Catholics, but Ireland needs a spiritual revival so that the people are not Catholic in name only. It’s sad that the people who held out so well against English persecution for the sake of their Faith (my own ancestors were Irish) could have fallen so much in a time of peace.
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saveusfromhell
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blue spahire on a seperate yellow belle who use to post now and again on the irish news section, i havn’t noticed posts from her for a while, i think we should pray for her, didn’t she mention to you time was short
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damian_clarke
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God promised St Patrick that the Irish would remain faithful. So I am not suprised to hear that The Emerald Isle is still true. Generally when God makes a promise it tends to stick.
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BlueSapphire
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Hi SOFH, she did indeed say she hadn’t much time, as she was seriously ill. What a good idea to pray for her, I will offer my Rosary this evening for her intentions! Thanks for the reminder!
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