Irish bishop bows to pressure, shelves plans for permanent diaconate

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I have to admit, I didn’t see this coming.
An Irish bishop has decided not to institute the permanent diaconate in his diocese, because of protests from supporters of women’s ordination.
Bishop Kieran O’Reilly of Killaloe had begun recruiting candidates for the diaconate, when opposition arose among some women in the diocese. Quickly reacting to the pressure, Bishop O’Reilly announced: “I will not now proceed with the introduction of the permanent diaconate at this time in the diocese.”
catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22618

and other sources.
 
How unfortunate, strange times we live in. Let us pray much for the Bishops

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According to Wikipedia, the diocese was founded in 1111. 🙂

Considering the diocese reportedly has over 100,000 Catholics, I am puzzled as to why the diaconate wasn’t introduced a few decades ago.

In any event, this shows how little some of the pressure groups are concerned with the pastoral and social well being of the people. It is sad if these groups are granted “status” with the diocese, so that their “concerns” are given so much weight. I always take reports from the media with caution, but that website is credible. The scary thing is I wonder what other decisions by this bishop they now control.

Maybe some men who live near the borders of other dioceses could enroll in their diaconal training programs. They might have to join the neighboring diocese temporarily, in the hope that by the time they are ordained they could serve in this diocese.

This is the kind of situation the Metropolitan, and the papal nuncio, need to start discussing with the bishop. Bishops have rights within their dioceses, but eligible candidates also have rights, as do the poor, who are the primary focus of deacons.
 
Does anyone know: Were there, or were there not, female deacons in the church in ancient times? I keep hearing conflicting stuff.
 
Does anyone know: Were there, or were there not, female deacons in the church in ancient times? I keep hearing conflicting stuff.
Deaconesses - yes
Female deacons - no

Anyone who wants to “return” to this ancient practice should be aware that the primary function of deaconesses was to tend to sick women who could not be tended to by men for modesty’s sake and to undress female candidates for Baptism.
 
I don’t get the connection. What’s next – will he stop ordaining new priests too, because of similar pressures from women’s ordination supporters?
 
Deaconesses - yes
Female deacons - no

Anyone who wants to “return” to this ancient practice should be aware that the primary function of deaconesses was to tend to sick women who could not be tended to by men for modesty’s sake and to undress female candidates for Baptism.
That is correct. They did not have any sacramental function. They did not enter the sanctuary or distribute the Eucharist etc.
 
According to Wikipedia, the diocese was founded in 1111. 🙂

Considering the diocese reportedly has over 100,000 Catholics, I am puzzled as to why the diaconate wasn’t introduced a few decades ago.

In any event, this shows how little some of the pressure groups are concerned with the pastoral and social well being of the people. It is sad if these groups are granted “status” with the diocese, so that their “concerns” are given so much weight. I always take reports from the media with caution, but that website is credible. The scary thing is I wonder what other decisions by this bishop they now control.

Maybe some men who live near the borders of other dioceses could enroll in their diaconal training programs. They might have to join the neighboring diocese temporarily, in the hope that by the time they are ordained they could serve in this diocese.

This is the kind of situation the Metropolitan, and the papal nuncio, need to start discussing with the bishop. Bishops have rights within their dioceses, but eligible candidates also have rights, as do the poor, who are the primary focus of deacons.
While the USA and some other places embraced the restoration of the permanent diaconate in the years following Vatican II, this was not universally the case. In many parts of the world the permanent diaconate remains unknown. Vatican II allowed the permanent diaconate to be restored, but it is still ultimately up to the local bishop. The Archdiocese of Vancouver, where I lived for several years, has nearly 500 000 Catholics, but it was only a few years ago that the Archbishop implemented a formation program for married men discerning the diaconate. Permanent deacons were previously unknown in the region.
 
While the USA and some other places embraced the restoration of the permanent diaconate in the years following Vatican II, this was not universally the case. In many parts of the world the permanent diaconate remains unknown. Vatican II allowed the permanent diaconate to be restored, but it is still ultimately up to the local bishop. The Archdiocese of Vancouver, where I lived for several years, has nearly 500 000 Catholics, but it was only a few years ago that the Archbishop implemented a formation program for married men discerning the diaconate. Permanent deacons were previously unknown in the region.
The same goes for the dioceses in the Atlantic Provinces. Halifax Archdiocese has most of the deacons. There are a scattered few in the other dioceses but most PIPs wouldn’t recognize a permanent deacon if one came up and bit them.

I saw the reaction in my own parish when we had a transitional deacon for 6 months. When I listed all the things that were his to do by virtue of being Deacon there was a resounding “No, he’s only here for a while and it will disrupt everything.” ???
 
While the USA and some other places embraced the restoration of the permanent diaconate in the years following Vatican II, this was not universally the case. In many parts of the world the permanent diaconate remains unknown. Vatican II allowed the permanent diaconate to be restored, but it is still ultimately up to the local bishop. The Archdiocese of Vancouver, where I lived for several years, has nearly 500 000 Catholics, but it was only a few years ago that the Archbishop implemented a formation program for married men discerning the diaconate. Permanent deacons were previously unknown in the region.
Ok fine, nobody says otherwise, however, questions arise when the reason is backing down due to some fabulously misinformed people who–for some reason–believe the permanent diaconate could ever be open to women. What?!? I think you completely miss the point in your post. What does it being up to the local bishop have to do with anything? He was going to do it but didn’t because of a few uppity people who would have freaked out “cuz women.” No one said he has to do it, he was going to of his own accord, but then didn’t because… because of that.
 
It seems that the diocese could use the those in the order of permanent diaconate to help educate those who believe female ordination is possible. 🤷
 
Thanks.

If you want, and if so informed, feel free to share any insight about those conditions.
 
I hadn’t thought about it that way before, but I suppose this is still more fallout from the sex abuse crisis. Many people don’t trust clerics and the Church is already hurting/hemorrhaging and this is not the time to drive anyone away.
 
It’s difficult to be a bishop anywhere now. Earlier archbishops of NY had enormous clout with the government and media. They could engage the secularists on terms friendly or neutral to the Church. Today Cardinal Dolan, who has consistently upheld Catholic teaching, gets bashed because he tries to engage secularists any way he can. He has to consider compromises that Cardinal Spellman never had to consider. Bishops have to exercise prudent judgement: certain things can not be compromised, or postponed. He must make the best decision for this time, to “outreach” where he can, knowing he will be criticized by people who don’t know the full situation. They deserve the prayers of the faithful.

I don’t know the situation in Ireland. But from the media accounts, it seems the bishop was yielding to an organized pressure campaign from groups within the parish and diocesan structure. (This is not unlike my own diocese, especially with the role of the media). The bishop’s decision to cave in is not like “outreach”, Cardinal Dolan going one on one with a non-Catholic journalist, or Pope Francis washing the feet of Muslims or phoning an atheist editor. It seems like the bishop in Ireland had a responsibility to the unorganized laity, especially the poor, who would benefit from the ministry of deacons, but don’t have the backing of the secular media, which the pressure groups have.

The ministry of the deacon is important. But the ministry of bishop is important too, and he has a responsibility to call to conversion those within his flock who are deeply influenced by the secular culture.
 
I don’t get the connection. What’s next – will he stop ordaining new priests too, because of similar pressures from women’s ordination supporters?
This was nearly the unstated, but effective policy of Archbishop Weakland in Milwaukee for quite some time. Whole years went by for a period of time in which there were NO ordinations at all in that large and heavily catholic diocese. I had a relative study for an M. Div in their seminary during that time period who can pretty much affirm that any young man discerning the priesthood there who had a faith that would at all be recognizable as catholic by St. John Vianney was fairly shortly encouraged to leave the seminary. Essentially the “Goodbye, Good Men” story…
 
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