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[Soler]

Stephen,
It seems as if you seriously misunderstand YB’s use of the verb “to forget” which I believe in this context means “to permanently put out of one’s mind, to pretend that something never happened.”

 

[Stephentlig]

Read the Forum Rules. Read what you have written. Apply

Show me what forum rule I’ve broken and apply it to what I’ve written:shrug:

Is anything I’ve said in contradiction of Church teaching, faith or morals?

No not at all, I have not accused you of breaking faith and morals, just me making a poor attempt at trying to humble myself by making my own position clear.

Nice try, but it won’t fly.

what? those were your words from earliar and the paragraph below was my response, as you were telling me to calm down, and I again made my position clear.

I already have a spiritual director, thanks, one with a bit more authority than you.

Yes ok, I certainly have no authority to be correcting you, only the Lord does, and he did so with his proverb. perhaps you should have your spiritual director take a look at this topic, I’m sure he’d love to see how I also tested the spirits to see if you were of God or not? also, I did it without you knowing, I sometimes do it with people I am in debate with and when they fail the test, I know then what it is I am dealing with whether or not they be of good spirit or bad spirit, in your post also of your misperception, bad spirit was surely written all over it. St.John teaches us this in the Gospel to always test the spirits. 1John:4:1 “Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God”

basically if your spiritual director is a good one, he’ll see that you failed to humble yourself in this particular test. would you like me to show you were you failed the test? of course when I do you show there is the possibility you will even further refuse to admit to yourself that you saw it and yet missed it. I’ll give you the oppertunity and everyone here on the forum to go through the post again and see where it was she failed the test.

Stephen <3

 

[Stephentlig]

Stephen,
It seems as if you seriously misunderstand YB’s use of the verb “to forget” which I believe in this context means “to permanently put out of one’s mind, to pretend that something never happened.”

I am talking about to forget in the sense of ‘‘to permanently put out of ones mind’’

there is perhaps that misunderstanding, but she hasnt made that understanding clear in her posts, therefore its impossible for me to be miunderstanding of it, but ignornant of it as she hasnt made that position a clear one.

Stephen <3

 

[Stephentlig]

Really? I understood that we were discussing the nature of forgiveness and whether or not forgetting was essential to it.

thank you for making it more clear for me, yes and in my last couple of posts I was showing you how forgetting is essential to forgiving.

 

[Yellow_Belle]

Yes ok, I certainly have no authority to be correcting you, only the Lord does, and he did so with his proverb. perhaps you should have your spiritual director take a look at this topic, I’m sure he’d love to see how I also tested the spirits to see if you were of God or not? also, I did it without you knowing, I sometimes do it with people I am in debate with and when they fail the test, I know then what it is I am dealing with whether or not they be of good spirit or bad spirit, in your post also of your misperception, bad spirit was surely written all over it. St.John teaches us this in the Gospel to always test the spirits. 1John:4:1 “Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God”

basically if your spiritual director is a good one, he’ll see that you failed to humble yourself in this particular test. would you like me to show you were you failed the test? of course when I do you show there is the possibility you will even further refuse to admit to yourself that you saw it and yet missed it. I’ll give you the oppertunity and everyone here on the forum to go through the post again and see where it was she failed the test.

Stephen <3

Do you seriously believe (or expect anyone else here to believe) that you can discern someone’s spirit from an anonymous discussion on the internet? For all you know, the person who began this discussion with you has gone to bed hours ago and the debate was continued by several others taking it in turn. I’m not saying that’s what happened, of course but it does kinda throw a spanner in your works, doesn’t it?

Sorry, I don’t mean to be rude, but you have just about made my day. I can retire smiling and commend you to the grace of God.

 

[Yellow_Belle]

thank you for making it more clear for me, yes and in my last couple of posts I was showing you how forgetting is essential to forgiving.

We’ll have to agree to disagree then.

Goodnight.:whackadoo:

 

[Stephentlig]

Do you seriously believe (or expect anyone else here to believe) that you can discern someone’s spirit from an anonymous discussion on the internet? For all you know, the person who began this discussion with you has gone to bed hours ago and the debate was continued by several others taking it in turn. I’m not saying that’s what happened, of course but it does kinda throw a spanner in your works, doesn’t it?

Sorry, I don’t mean to be rude, but you have just about made my day. I can retire smiling and commend you to the grace of God.

No, I cannot discern, only by Gods grace can I discern, for I am incapable of anything:blush:

But yes through speech one can discern between good spirit and bad spirit, the enemy is very easily picked out.

Yes for all I know different people could be posting all at the same time, but I am not talking about identity of persons when it comes to the forum, forgive me once again for not making myself more clear to you, I am very poor in expressing myself to people, I pray to God that he shall help me with this.

seeing as you dont wanna know where and when you failed the test, I shall be unsubscribing from this thread as of now and it shall remain a mystery eh?

God bless you
Stephen

 

[thunderballs75]

Let me use an analogy here. God forgives all sins, and we are called to do the same. However, God is still just and does give punishment (temporal punishment). We should do the same (jail sentence).

It would also be very scandalous to just forgive with no deterrence, and then allow these people to commit sinful and evil acts on another person, especially a child.