Is Catholic Clergy Sex Abuse Related to Homosexual Priests?

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tafan2 said:
Yet Weinstein’s abuse of young actresses is no different than the abuse of a young seminarian, except that one instance is heterosexual abuse and the other is homosexual abuse.
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That is a huge difference because Holy Scripture tells us that homosexual activity is an abomination.
 
It’s also a huge difference when a celibate man of God is the abuser, versus a highly promiscuous secular creep. Something about a vow of celibacy makes people let their guard down around them, and the fact that they represent God makes it difficult to feel good about faith afterwards. The fact that very vulnerable people confide their deepest, darkest secrets creates a serious disadvantage in power. Since they represent Gid on earth, it is understandable that people want to hold them to higher standards.

The promiscuous, secular creep is normally somewhat expected. There isn’t the shock involved.
 
Being homosexual or sexually fluid have nothing to do with abuse. There are bad homosexuals and there are bad straight people in the world. Maybe instead of blaming homosexuality you should blame at the priests and leaders. Homosexuals can be abuser and so can straight people. Bad people abuse so blame the person not the orientation.
 
I am not advocating some type of witchhunt to root out all homosexually oriented clergy members. I am saying that the prevalence of a homosexual network of clergy exists and it is currently corrupting more than a few seminaries. This needs to be rooted out.
 
Makes no sense. Take out the word homosexuality and replace it with a better term like abusive clergy needs to be rooted out
 
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AlNg said:
Exposure of children to public sexual deviance by homosexual priests may result in changed attitudes and values of these children
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The Miami case was truly extreme. One cannot say this is too much prevalent.
 
Is it really that rare? I mean, it happens in other ways as well. Public sex isn’t the only way our kids are desensitized, which is why their values change.
 
MikeInVA said:
But homosexuality contributed to 80% of the abuse…
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This will continue to be a serious problem within the church until the hierarchy faces it head on and decides to confront it. Are there non homosexual abusers within the church? Of course, and they need to be rooted out as well, but the elephant in the room is this: the church has a grave problem with homosexuals among its clergy.
 
delrey said:
No it didn’t. I don’t think you understand what I am saying.
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Yes, it did! Yes, we do. You argue that the abuse is because of “clericalism” and is manifesting itself in power over people, most of the cases (80%) via sexual abuse of post pubescent males. You believe that it is power they covet and completely ignore the sexual satisfaction received. That is just nuts!
 
Normal people don’t do this. Normal homosexual people don’t do this. Normal straight people don’t do this. There’s something terribly wrong with this situation and to pin it on homosexuality Is despicable and disgusting and wrong. If you don’t find anything wrong with what you said well then that is not normal you’re part of the problem
 
delrey said:
There’s something terribly wrong with this situation and to pin it on homosexuality Is despicable and disgusting and wrong. If you don’t find anything wrong with what you said well then that is not normal you’re part of the problem
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I absolutely agree that there is something terribly wrong with this! I am not however pinning it on homosexuality. The majority of homosexual Priests are conducting themselves as priests should. I am acknowledging the fact that there are too many Priests that are not doing so and a majority of them are engaged in homosexual acts. I don’t find anything wrong with acknowledging those facts, I am very normal, and I am part of the problem if the problem is fear that the coverups will not be excused, ignored, and tolerated.
 
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delray . . .
Who in the right mind would relate homosexuality to sexual assult and rape and pedophilia?
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I don’t know delray.

But what about the people who would . . . .

. . . relate homosexuality to homosexual sexual assult and homosexual rape and homosexual pedophilia?

Are THEY out of their right mind too in your opinion?

Do you see ANYTHING disproportionate with 80% of these assaults as same-sex assaults? (I am not defending ANY assault by the way.)

The Priesthood is spiritual “fatherhood” delray.

Homosexual men should not be ordained priests.
 
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Ok, I am going to point out something that is now politically incorrect, and may offend, but I believe it to be true. It is rarely spoken of, but until recently hooking up (for lack of a better term) with very young men was a rather significant part of the homosexual lifestyle. I believe this is less the case these days, but it previously was not. And this goes back a long ways. Pederasty was how homosexuality was viewed for centuries.

So you are right, it’s not normal. But historically, it does seem a common type of sexual activity among gay men.
 
To further my previous post, it also seems to me that as it became clear the abuse of minors would not be tolerated, the problem progressed to the seminaries.
 
I disagree. Homosexual people should be allowed to be ordained priests.
 
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