Is Confession Needed?

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I may do this, but it would be a bold move indeed, especially for a convert like myself. lol
 
He sounds like the kind of Catholic man who is unfortunately all too prevalent in a lot of Church ministry groups - basically a big hot air windbag know-it-all. Such people often have crumby personal lives away from the Church as well. You’re probably right that he is not used to having people question his alpha male status and he reacted badly to your arguing with him. Just smile sweetly and say that you find it helpful to keep receiving God’s grace through confession, then change the subject. It will drive him crazy.
 
you hit the nail right on the head there. I’m the only woman in LD that speaks really and not afraid to contradict him. He is recently divorced and annulled (no judgement), so may be in a weird spot…I am printing out catechism quote if he brings it up again this week, it’s becoming a bit redundant and stupid. lol.
 
well you guys sound like the same religion…I assume you aren’t Catholic?
 
Well does the Lord know how to use strong women to achieve His purpose. Some men (OK, all men) need to be humbled - Saint Catherine of Sienna humbled Pope Gregory XI, shaming him to return to Rome from luxury in Avignon.

And Judith! Decapitated Holofernes, the Assyrian general who had surrounded and was slowly killing the Hebrew nation by dehydration.

Mary! “Do whatever He tells you”

You are in excellent company.
 
Don’t be too harsh on her…I was told, that to the sick and infirm (as I’m an EOM) the fasting and confession laws are nil. I take a bus and my entire day off to bring the Eucharist to my local hospital, usually to be met with a lot of rudeness, but also a bit of joy. She may have been wrong, but aren’t we all, essentially? Sorry for your experience, but she was probably trying and I think essentially that is what Gd wants,
 
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I was told, that to the sick and infirm (as I’m an EOM) the fasting and confession laws are nil.
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Yes, but is what you were told true? I am aware of the relaxation of the fasting laws for those who are ill, but I have never heard that the infirm are dispensed from the need to be in a state of grace prior to receiving the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord. This is an infinitely serious point, and one on which half-measures and uninformed assumptions simply aren’t appropriate, to say the least. I greatly appreciate the sacrifices you make in order to bring the Eucharist to the sick, as well as the sacrifices the lady I saw was making, but frankly they pale in comparison to the hideous possibility of directly placing damnation into the mouth of a devout soul.
 
No one will be “damned” for accepting the Eucharist…I would say ever, but especially in the hospital. It’s between them and Gd, I am just a messenger.
 
brishen said:
No one will be “damned” for accepting the Eucharist…I would say ever, but especially in the hospital. It’s between them and Gd, I am just a messenger.
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Please research this. You are treading on dangerous ground. You don’t want to take the chance you might be mistaken.
 
It’s off-topic, but still the Sacraments. Receiving communion is up to the communicant’s conscience. If they have no knowledge that the sin is mortal, or that reception adds sin to sin - it is objectively mortal, but not subjectively mortal. For the mortal sin to attach to the soul, it must be:
  1. Grave matter.
  2. Full knowledge of that gravity.
  3. Full consent of the will.
Intentional, serious sin. No accidents. No Oooops!

Anyone “catechized” in the 60s through the 80s+ may very well have never been taught about this. Confession, however, is one of the 5 precepts of the Church. We are often criticized for being “leglisitc” and having “too many rules.” Really? Are these 5 precepts too onerous, to burdensome in order to follow Christ?
  1. “You shall attend Mass on Sundays (Saturday vigil or Sunday Mass)
    and on holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor.” CCC 1388-9,
    2042, 2043, 2177, 2180, 2185; 2187-8; 2192-3.
  2. “You shall confess your sins at least once a year.” CCC 1457; 2042
  3. “You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season.” CCC 1389; 2042
  4. “You shall observe the prescribed days of fasting and abstinence
    established by the Church.” CCC 2043; 2177
  5. “You shall help to provide for the needs of the Church, each according to his own ability.” CCC 1351; 1387; 1438; 2043
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Rather simple. “Take my yoke upon you, for my yoke is easy and my burden light.” Matthew 11:30
 
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The absolution that we receive after reciting the Confiteor is good only for venial sins. All mortal sins must still be confessed.
 
If I had a dime for every ding dong garbage heresy uttered in the name of “the Church doesn’t teach this anymore, it all changed after Vatican II and they relaxed a lot of the rules” I’d be able to pay off my college loans. Though now it would seem people don’t even cite that, it’s just this general wishy washy “that’s just a bunch of old fashioned rules, God isn’t boxed into a church or religion, I can decide the truth for myself and go directly to God.”

It’s as if Oprah said “you have your truth! And you have your truth! And you have your truth! Everyone has their own truth!” and people went with it.
 
In full truth we do not know how it fully works. I tend to lean on the belief that God is very merciful and will forgive people. I believe they just spend more time in Purgatory. I know I could be wrong, but I am saying this because I know I am sinner and while in mortal sin have been greatly blessed, so He must be very merciful. That being said I am gong to confession tomorrow as I normally do.
 
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because I know I am sinner and while in mortal sin have been greatly blessed, so He must be very merciful.
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Same here.
Now if someone in hospital really feels they need to confess before receiving and asks for a priest to do so, the hospital should get them one. No ifs, ands, or buts. No “oh go ahead and receive anyway.” I believe the Catechism says as much.

But if the person is not asking for a priest, then it’s not the EMHC’s job to quiz them about whether they are in a state of grace or not.
 
it clearly says the sick and infirm can accept the Eucharist without restriction, I don’t force it on people who do not want to accept. I’m not treading on any dangerous ground, we don’t police people in the communion line and I don’t plan to at the hospital. For myself, I am very strict, for others, I am just a messenger as I said. My Monsignor has given me such instruction.
 
brishen said:
No one will be “damned” for accepting the Eucharist…I would say ever, but especially in the hospital. It’s between them and Gd, I am just a messenger.
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The ministers and the faithful have restrictions, CIC (Latin Canon Law):
Can. 843 §1. Sacred ministers cannot deny the sacraments to those who seek them at appropriate times, are properly disposed, and are not prohibited by law from receiving them.
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Can. 915 Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.
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Can. 916 A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to celebrate Mass or receive the body of the Lord without previous sacramental confession unless there is a grave reason and there is no opportunity to confess; in this case the person is to remember the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition which includes the resolution of confessing as soon as possible.
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Can. 1007 The anointing of the sick is not to be conferred upon those who persevere obstinately in manifest grave sin.
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How is this even an argument? I am there to give the Eucharist, and frankly that is a huge honor I am not in merit of. I am not there to judge the sick and (perhaps) dying in the hospital. My priest, a Monsignor, has told us not to deny the Eucharist to anyone who asks, should I go rogue and start my own practices? I should think not.
 
The absolution at the beginning of mass which you’re talking about is not sufficient for mortal sins. Only venial sins.
 
Agreed. That’s why I started this thread, that said how it delolved into bringing communion to the sick, not the point…I have LD tonight and am just waiting for him to bring it up again.
 
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