Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part 4.0

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No, it is that evolution cannot be empirically proven, that is observable, repeatable, and predictable. Evolution is therefore philosophy and does have conflict with constant and firm Catholic teaching. Even Dawkins understood that theistic evolution is untenable.

Faith and reason cannot be opposed for they flow from the very same God. The trick is to reason the science correctly and without bias. Science admits by its own definition it ā€œcannot let the Divine foot in the doorā€.
 
Produce the magisterial document that allows Adam as a result of evolution.
 
We should just have Humani Generis stapled to every post shouldnā€™t we.
  1. For these reasons the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter - for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God. However, this must be done in such a way that the reasons for both opinions, that is, those favorable and those unfavorable to evolution, be weighed and judged with the necessary seriousness, moderation and measure, and provided that all are prepared to submit to the judgment of the Church, to whom Christ has given the mission of interpreting authentically the Sacred Scriptures and of defending the dogmas of faith.[11] Some however, rashly transgress this liberty of discussion, when they act as if the origin of the human body from pre-existing and living matter were already completely certain and proved by the facts which have been discovered up to now and by reasoning on those facts, and as if there were nothing in the sources of divine revelation which demands the greatest moderation and caution in this question.
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And the openness to evolution later popes have shown is evidence that due consideration has been given to evolution with no indications that a Catholic may not accept the science of evolution.
 
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mVitus said:
the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter
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This is key - ā€œdoes not forbid research and discussionā€ and ā€œinquires ā€¦ā€

The pope basically said ā€œhave at itā€. Just make sure you recognize that souls are created immediately by God.

In other words - the Church is listeningā€¦ and now 40 year later we have learned about the extensive programming of life.
 
Well, my parents werenā€™t. And these chickens werenā€™t farm animals. They were just semi-wild. And I promise you, they behaved exactly as I described. I watched them gang up and tear another chicken to pieces. Or, mostly before I got a broom and knocked them all off. Theyā€™re monsters.
 
ā€œThe programming of lifeā€? Iā€™ve never heard this phrase, so I wonā€™t laugh out loud until I know more about it.
 
Therein lies an issue. So much has come out in the last decade and most do not know about it. And the schools are pretty much ignoring or forbidden to discuss it.

We now know the DNA language can be read forward, backward, in layers and contextually. We see the complexity of cell machinery. ā€œZip codesā€ so transport mechanisms know where to go. So muchā€¦

ā€œa vastly superior operating systemā€
ā€œa galaxy of design and complexityā€
ā€œover 90% of the genome is actively transcribedā€
ā€œthe genome has multiple overlapping messagesā€
ā€œdata compression on the most sophisticated levelā€
ā€œmore and more the genome looks like a super super set of programsā€

http://programmingoflife.com/programming-of-life/
 
Okay, so itā€™s more irreducible complexity arguments. Those are pretty routinely defeated.
 
Broad strokes when Iā€™m working. The boss doesnā€™t pay me to watch documentaries.

But regardless. What Iā€™ve read doesnā€™t conflict with evolution. Evolution doesnā€™t mean abiogenesis. If God breathed the super language of DNA into creatures, evolution can still operate. Iā€™ve said a thousand times evolution does not conflict with God.
 
How so? Adaptation (micro-evolution) happens because of the programming. We know natural selection is a conservative process not a creative one. Mutations, we observe cause organisms to lose functions.

Better: Life is programmed from the beginning to adapt within its type and radiate. No macro-evolution is needed to explain, and consistent with Revelation. And this is coming as a result of scientific investigation.
 
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Mutations, we observe cause organisms to lose functions
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That is patently false. Bacteria for example, have evolved resistance to our drugs because those that have mutations to withstand them, survive and reproduce.
 
New information shows that bacteria have a ā€œlatent memoryā€ and rapidly communicate to the other bacteria.

In addition,

journals.plos.org

Antibiotic Resistance Is Prevalent in an Isolated Cave Microbiome

Antibiotic resistance is a global challenge that impacts all pharmaceutically used antibiotics. The origin of the genes associated with this resistance is of significant importance to our understanding of the evolution and dissemination of antibiotic resistance in pathogens. A growing body of...
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Who said they couldnā€™t but we can also accept special creation. And appeals to Popes is not about science. But, letā€™s see:

Pope Benedict

"In the book, Benedict reflected on a 1996 comment of his predecessor, John Paul II, who said that Charles Darwinā€™s theories on evolution were sound, as long as they took into account that creation was the work of God, and that Darwinā€™s theory of evolution was ā€œmore than a hypothesis.ā€

ā€œThe pope (John Paul) had his reasons for saying this,ā€ Benedict said. ā€œBut it is also true that the theory of evolution is not a complete, scientifically proven theory.ā€

"Benedict added that the immense time span that evolution covers made it impossible to conduct experiments in a controlled environment to finally verify or disprove the theory.

ā€œWe cannot haul 10,000 generations into the laboratory,ā€ he said."
 
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I visited other farms when I was younger. I still donā€™t buy it. And Iā€™ve seen and fed wild turkeys.
 
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