Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part 4.0

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Over 900 now. mostly PHD’s
  1. Are there credible scientists who doubt Neo-Darwinism?
Yes. Signatories of the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism hold doctorates in biological sciences, physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, computer science, and related disciplines from such institutions as Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Dartmouth, Rutgers, University of Chicago, Stanford and University of California at Berkeley. Many are also professors or researchers at major universities and research institutions such as Cambridge, Princeton, MIT, UCLA, University of Pennsylvania, University of Georgia, Tulane, Moscow State University, Chitose Institute of Science & Technology in Japan, and Ben-Gurion University in Israel.

Why Is Darwinian Evolution Controversial?

https://dissentfromdarwin.org/resources-for-students/why-is-darwinian-evolution-controversial/
 
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And how are all these small random mutations causing all this “die out” of the previous organisms?
Two ways:
  1. The organism with the change gains a competitive advantage over the one without the change or that changed in a different way. An example seems to have been Cro Magnon (modern humans) and Neanderthals.
  2. Mutation causes the number of organisms to be more and more diverse, but then some devastating environmental change causes a die-off of a high number of species. The species that survive are the ones that happened to be the best-suited to the unprecedented environment.
 
Genesis 1 is written from God’s perspective.
And just what does that mean…are you now saying God wrote Genesis 1? Did He write it down and then give it to Adam? Or did Adam write down what God told him to write? Did Adam know how to read and wright? You said it was observed by a human. Why, then, are there two creation stories in Genesis that seem to be in conflict with each other, Genesis 2?
 
hugh_fary believes the longer the list is how science is done.

The Dissent from Darwin list is there to counter the claim ALL scientists agree with evolution. It only takes one to defeat that claim.
 
Yes. The Genesis Tablet Theory says exactly that. God did write the 10 commandments with His own finger.

Yes. Adam had preternatural gifts and one of them was infused knowledge. Now we are learning Aramaic may have been God’s own language and the very first.

The two creation accounts are complementary. The first shows the order of creation, the second the importance of man.
 
Buffalo, what I’m getting from you is that you’re obfuscating. Is that why you don’t quote the person you’re replying to, as well?
 
Yes. The Genesis Tablet Theory says exactly that. God did write the 10 commandments with His own finger.

Yes. Adam had preternatural gifts and one of them was infused knowledge. Now we are learning Aramaic may have been God’s own language and the very first.

The two creation accounts are complementary. The first shows the order of creation, the second the importance of man.
and just what scientific evidence do you have to support this argument that is not any less rigorous then the evidence you are demanding for evolution theory?
 
The theory of evolution as it stands would have to be rethought. It could be modified, extended, or rejected. That’s what science is.
Exactly!!

This is what science does, particularly when it comes to piecing out areas of interest for which the data is largely still hidden or destroyed. When better means of analyzing data or some new source of data comes up, then all the previous attempts to explain what was known have to be adjusted to explain the new data.

What people who do not like Darwin’s proposals have to understand is that they are free to propose a better PHYSICAL explanation for how the work of Providence left the world in the condition scientists have been finding it.

God is not a deceiver. We have not been commanded not to try to figure out how the creation of the world was accomplished in specific terms. The Bible gives the Genesis story, yes, but it also says, “But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day.” (2 Peter 3:8), Our Lord said, “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up” (John 2:19). Was He not speaking the truth just because he did not mean what he said in the sense his listeners took him to mean it? No, sometimes God speaks in metaphors when his listeners want to assume God is being literal. That is reason enough to be willing to believe that Genesis was also not meant literally, even though it is true.

Which is more likely, that God left physical clues meant to mislead scientists or that God said something in His Revelation that some people would interpret literally when it was not meant that way? Well, we know from the example just cited from John and from other instances that God does speak in ways that people interpret the wrong way. What is the example of God would leave physical evidence of animals that never existed? There is none. Could we accept that we may have interpreted that evidence incorrectly? Well, of course that is possible. The evidence is, however, that we must also be ready to accept that we have interpreted Divine Revelation incorrectly, too, when we tried to make it into a science textbook in spite of physical evidence that contradicts that interpretation.
 
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When one is walking down the beach and sees only left footprints at the edge of the water should the conclusion be a deceiver was at work?

How about the new knowledge of cell machinery. When evolution was first thought up this knowledge was not available. Now we see the programming of life and the functional complex specified information to run the cell machinery the old paradigm is being overturned.
 
Sorry, bit if that professor of theologian denied evolution, he qualifies as a kooky fundamentalist … who probably didn’t even understand the basics of evolution … and probably had no friends.
Sometimes the internet is confusing.EWTN had a 30 minute program once a week of a professor who talked about theology.One week his topic was Evolution (he didnt believe a word of it)after he pointed out all of its flaws I stopped believing in it too.
 
When one is walking down the beach and sees only left footprints at the edge of the water should the conclusion be a deceiver was at work?

How about the new knowledge of cell machinery. When evolution was first thought up this knowledge was not available. Now we see the programming of life and the functional complex specified information to run the cell machinery the old paradigm is being overturned.
This is fine, if you have a proposal for what the “right foot” was. As it is, the mechanism by which DNA mutates and gets passed around via viruses from animal to animal and the construction of DNA itself does not give evidence that Darwin was completely out in left field. There are questions left. but his essential ideas still seem to have merit even if they will need adjustment. Alternatives of equal merit in explaining known data while also repudiating the ideas of Darwin are noticeably lacking.
 
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Sure it does. HGT has caused the tree of life to fall and is now a tangled bush. The small successive steps are missing. He himself pointed out that his theory depended on continuity. We do not see continuity and large gaps and abrupt appearance are the findings.

When challenged about the programming of life, evos had wave and say “of course, evolution diddit and had to because we know evolution had to happen”.
 
Video 1. Fr Barron is right about the genres in the Bible.

Has the church read it wrong until just a few years ago? In other words where was the Holy Spirit, the guarantor of truth? Were Popes and Saints all wrong about Eve coming from the side of Adam?
 
Video 2. What ID advocates think God is intervening to correct the cosmos?

Is the constant understanding of God’s providence wrong?

The 2nd law claims the universe is increasing in entropy.
 
Genesis 1 is written from God’s perspective.
Then God is not timeless. “On the first day…”, “On the second day…” This is not from a timeless perspective, is it?

Genesis is written from a perspective within time, not outside it.

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Why does matter have its “inherent properties”? Precisely because of the "eternal Divine Mind! I do not recognise the dichotomy between the two.
On further consideration of your interesting post:

I think you are aware that Hugh’s evolutionary theory as clarified above is not being taught in school nor propagated through the media. You mentioned earlier that maybe you should write a book. At the point where the creation of a human being is the equivalent to the creation of an atom, the idea of randomness must be discarded since the process is clearly designed and actualized by a Divine Mind, who would utilize natural selection solely as the means by which that which does not work out is cleaned up. The purpose of creation is to manifest God’s glory, something we were created to share in Him, but which we refused in making ourselves God.
 
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Video 3. When I first saw this many years ago I was greatly troubled. The Pope removed him.
 
God created time and is outside if it. He sure knew what He created.

I have posted this often - Imagine a rolled up tape measure 7 layers. God sees it all at once. We live on the tape and have to look back past the graduations.
 
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