Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part 4.1

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The kind is the root of the tree. From these original prototypes came all we observe in the record. They are all adaptations and variations of the original.

Once again, how many kinds does there have to be?
 
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The kind is the root of the tree. From these original prototypes came all we observe in the record. They are all adaptations and variations of the original.

Once again, how many kinds does there have to be?
I’ve already told you. One.
Now why not answer my question?
 
“According to…” Not an endorsement.
And yes! Selective quotation, yet again. The “according to…” very clearly only applies to the first five or six lines at most. Then we get “While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life” etc. etc., which cannot be predicated with the words "according to … ", and then "Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. "

Why attempt to twist your opponents’ views to suit your own? Have you no credible supporters to adduce?

Do you agree with the article you referenced?

Do you agree that “Evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true”? Even if it is of the designed, planned kind rather than the undesigned unplanned kind?

Do you agree that “The evolution of living beings, of which science seeks to determine the stages and to discern the mechanism, presents an internal finality which arouses admiration.”?

You don’t, do you? You have yet again dragged in an article and author who does not agree with your position at all (Cardinal Schönborn) and pretended he supports your viewpoint.

Doesn’t anybody agree with you at all?
 
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The dating methods are highly suspect. Thanks to a few posters here, there are obvious assumptions made that involve uniformity, among other things. Dates that ‘don’t fit the narrative’ are simply discarded, since they do not provide the right evidence. Or contradictory evidence.
 
I answer more than 1.
Eh?
Question: “If all the ‘kinds’ of organisms were created more or less simultaneously, why do we not see all their fossils appear more or less simultaneously”
Answer: “More than 1.”
Would you care to be a little more intelligible?
 
The dating methods are highly suspect. Thanks to a few posters here, there are obvious assumptions made that involve uniformity, among other things. Dates that ‘don’t fit the narrative’ are simply discarded, since they do not provide the right evidence. Or contradictory evidence.
Gosh! Are we on the verge of an actual argument in support of your beliefs? Hooray!
What’s wrong with the dating methods?
 
There are more than 1. Biologists classify in 3 domains and 6 kingdoms.

This is much closer to Genesis than 5 million species.

We part ways at UCD. Common descent from the first six kingdoms is a better explanation. ( I will defer to the baraminologists who are working on this)
 
Common descent from the first six kingdoms is a better explanation.
Plants, Animals, Protists, Fungi, Archaebacteria, and Eubacteria are very different types of organisms. I think there are too broad a classification to ascribe common descent among its members. I think what has been created is probably what science labels as a genus. From an original form, these go on to diversify into species through the mechanism of descent. There are different kinds of living things which I believe is based on the nature of their soul. Since modern science takes a material perspective, the kind that it is could be identified based on a similar genomic structure. This does not accurately determine what sort of living thing it is, but it may be the best we can do, at least for the moment. On a previous thread, which some would believe is this one’s forebear, mention was made of the marble crayfish which has 3 X-chromosomes. It remains a crayfish but an anomaly that sort of proves the rule. In the case of human beings, we find various trisomies, Turner’s Syndrome, where the person has only one X-chromosome and no Y, Along with various other genetic abnormalities, which usually have a tremendous impact on the person and their family, but do not take anything away from their humanity. In the end, if you want to know nature, you hang out with it; the lab ends up reflecting only its weirdness within the nature of things, with equally odd ideas.
 
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Plants, Animals, Protists, Fungi, Archaebacteria, and Eubacteria are very different types of organisms.
No they are not. Archebacteria, Eubacteria and Eukaryotes are different. Plants, Animals, Protists and Fungi are all sub-variants of Eukaryotes. Humans are Eukaryotes: we have a cell nucleus and mitochondria. Mitochondria were once a free living bacteria, but are now an endosymbiote inside eukaryotic cells. That indicates, as does the fossil record, that eukaryotes came after bacteria.

There is one “kind” on Earth, the “Life on Earth” kind. Everything else is evolution within the boundaries of that kind.

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Again: somehow people see that casinos can set the odds in their favor for a single year but can’t imagine an omniscient and all-powerful being using countless instances of individual chance over geologic epochs to reach an intended creative end.
 
Evolution is not teleological. If you argue this way, you are arguing design.
 
If the Church saw evolution as being in any way opposed to the truth that God is the ultimate and intentional Author of Life, she would denounce it as obviously false. That is an interpretation projected onto a proposed physical mechanism by those with a philosophical ax to grind.

The mechanism does not intrinsically confirm or deny the existence of a Creator.
 
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I don’t think that any of this post is true.

Scientists absolutely LOVE to find contradictory evidence. This is how careers are built, and fame is made. If you could disprove evolution with evidence you’d found, you’d be remembered forever as the one who did it. You’d probably win a Nobel prize.
 
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If there was a credible reason to expect to find good evidence against evolution, ANY institution would very happily fund it. If you could prove ID, you would be perhaps the most important person in the past 200 years, and your institution would go down in history alongside you.
 
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