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Techno2000
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Dinosaurs turning into birds has never been proven… its pure speculation.Techno2000:
Maybe it didn’t. Birds did not cause land dinosaurs to die out, that was caused by something else.
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rossum
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People who use “proven” in this context do not understand science sufficiently. For science, they best it gets is “on the balance of probabilities”. On that basis there is more then enough evidence that birds are descended from dinosaurs. “Proof is for mathematics and alcohol,” not science.Dinosaurs turning into birds has never been proven… its pure speculation.
Just remember that mathematics has theorems which are proved, while science has theories which are supported by evidence. The two are different.
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buffalo
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It did, it just did…
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Aloysium
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It is part of God’s food chain, but likely the control mechanism for symmetry went askew and that’s why they have both eyes on the same side of the head. They found their niche and it works.
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Aloysium
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This sort of talk just makes the poster sound foolish and does the opposite of advancing one’s argument.you do not fully understand what you are reading. You lack of the basic background knowledge is getting in the way of your understanding.
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benjamin1973
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That’s a lot of words when “Ooops, I just googled blind spots and you were right” would have sufficed.
That’s a lot of words when “Ooops, I just googled blind spots and you were right” would have sufficed.
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benjamin1973
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Look, I’m not trying to be mean here. But if someone says something surprising, then the first thing I will do is go to google and spend a few minutes (or even a few days) remedying my lack of knowledge. That happened in this very thread with regard to my example of peppered moths as an example of adaptation: I did not know that the original study had been discredited, so I immediately searched and confirmed that it had been discredited. Then I came back to the thread and honestly said so.
If someone claims they have studied the human eye, but they do not know that there is a blind spot in the human eye, or the reason for it, and they haven’t bothered to take the 10 seconds to google and confirm it and maybe find an explanatory diagram, then what does this tell us?
If someone claims they have studied the human eye, but they do not know that there is a blind spot in the human eye, or the reason for it, and they haven’t bothered to take the 10 seconds to google and confirm it and maybe find an explanatory diagram, then what does this tell us?
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Techno2000
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Interesting fact : baby flounder started out with eyes on both sides its head.It is part of God’s food chain, but likely the control mechanism for symmetry went askew and that’s why they have both eyes on the same side of the head. They found their niche and it works.
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Aloysium
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The blind spot corresponds to the entry point of the major vessels that serve the eye and where a million retinal ganglion cells receiving (name removed by moderator)ut from the cones and rods and providing for initial processing of visual information, coalesce into the optic nerve. The eye is a masterpiece of “engineering”.
I should know; I’ve had enough operations to both eyes and was blind for a while. Prayers to the Archangel St. Raphael preceded a spontaneous return of sufficient vision to one eye to be able to do this. The visual world is miraculous. It is really special to live in a world of colours and shapes. People are so happy about their 4k tv’s, but the poorest street person has so much more.
I should know; I’ve had enough operations to both eyes and was blind for a while. Prayers to the Archangel St. Raphael preceded a spontaneous return of sufficient vision to one eye to be able to do this. The visual world is miraculous. It is really special to live in a world of colours and shapes. People are so happy about their 4k tv’s, but the poorest street person has so much more.
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Aloysium
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That is really amazing, thanks.
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HelenRose
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Accepting or not accepting the theory of evolution has absolutely nothing to do with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick or simply loving one’s family. God has in His power of creation to create in anyway He so desired.
I am 72 years old and I came to that conclusion when I was 15. I have had many mind changing experiences in my life but this senseless argument has been raked over the coals so many times it has become tiresome to even contemplate.
I am 72 years old and I came to that conclusion when I was 15. I have had many mind changing experiences in my life but this senseless argument has been raked over the coals so many times it has become tiresome to even contemplate.
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Techno2000
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I had 7000 post on the old forum, do you think people only stay stuck on this thread ?Accepting or not accepting the theory of evolution has absolutely nothing to do with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick or simply loving one’s family. God has in His power of creation to create in anyway He so desired.
I am 72 years old and I came to that conclusion when I was 15. I have had many mind changing experiences in my life but this senseless argument has been raked over the coals so many times it has become tiresome to even contemplate.
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edwest211
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Anything’s possible. Good for storytelling purposes but nothing else.
God does not operate by your rules.The human eye provides its own evidence. Why would an eye designed intelligently be designed with a blind spot, when other animals’ eyes were not?
The evolutionary answer is simple: it’s the way in which the human eye developed that made it turn out this way. The Biblical answer is-- what? God wanted us to have pretty good vision but to have a blind spot?
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benjamin1973
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The eye is often used as an example of a system which could not have evolved: it is so complex that it must have been designed. And yet there is this problem with vertebrate eyes that doesn’t exist in other animals with very similar eye structures and visual capabilities.
Why is that?
Why is that?
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benjamin1973
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He’s not saying this because people are disagreeing with him. He’s saying it because they are saying things which do in fact show a lack of basic understanding. The eye has a blind spot-- that’s a fact, and an easily confirmed one, either on google or with a piece of paper and a pencil.
The same goes for a basic understanding of the theory of evolution. There have been maybe a couple hundred posts with people mockingly asking what happens while animals are “waiting” for their evolutionary advantage to kick in. This does, in fact, show a lack of understanding of evolution on such a fundamental level that the people saying them really should spend a little more effort on research before attempting to contribute to an argument.
The same goes for a basic understanding of the theory of evolution. There have been maybe a couple hundred posts with people mockingly asking what happens while animals are “waiting” for their evolutionary advantage to kick in. This does, in fact, show a lack of understanding of evolution on such a fundamental level that the people saying them really should spend a little more effort on research before attempting to contribute to an argument.
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Yeah.
I thought that too.
Then I wrote something that he thought he knew more about.
And suddenly my lack of understanding is the topic.
Of course, I understood well. But disagreed with his conclusions.
Nonetheless, I became one of the many that have a problem.
Like I said, everyone else has a problem.
I thought that too.
Then I wrote something that he thought he knew more about.
And suddenly my lack of understanding is the topic.
Of course, I understood well. But disagreed with his conclusions.
Nonetheless, I became one of the many that have a problem.
Like I said, everyone else has a problem.
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benjamin1973
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They’ve found dinosaur fossils with feathers, and birds have very similar skeletal features to dinosaurs. It’s not just speculation.
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edwest211
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It most definitely is speculation. Please provide a comparison showing the bones of birds and the bones of dinosaurs. Then a link showing the skeletal structure of birds and any dinosaur you wish.
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