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buffalo
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Dust is dead. Preexistent animals are alive.
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anon65111186
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It is technically “earth” from which we still to this day are made. Earth in Hebrew is “adama”.
It could be there is just no reference to the animal that gave birth, because it wasn’t important to God to communicate. The important part was the composition of man was from the earth, showing our connection with this material world.
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anon65111186
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Exactly, if evolution happened, He was present at every moment of it, allowing it, guiding it.
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buffalo
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“Memento, homo … quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris” (cf. Gn 3:19). “Remember, man, you are dust and to dust you will return.”
We do not return to a animal.
We do not return to a animal.
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Then that is guided and purposeful. NeoDarwinism does not have foresight.
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So random mutations ,natural selection and survival of the fittest aren’t necessary because God guides the whole process ?Techno2000:
Exactly, if evolution happened, He was present at every moment of it, allowing it, guiding it.
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anon65111186
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We return to God in heaven with a glorified body.
So when you die does your remaining corpse suddenly crumble into a pile of dust? Your body has more in common with animals because it is material without a soul.
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anon65111186
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They aren’t necessary, but they have happened with God being present. I don’t see your point.
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anon65111186
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Yes according to God’s purpose and will. Some may deny God had anything to do with it, but that position isn’t part and parcel of evolutionary theory.
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buffalo
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Our bodies return to dust upon our earthly death. We get glorified bodies at the final judgement.
LeafByNiggle
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The reference to dust here is figurative and unrelated to the “clay” mentioned in Genesis, which is also figurative.
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buffalo
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Animals and plants have souls.
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buffalo
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Yes it is. They claim that the god of BUC did it. (blind unguided chance)
If evolution is not blind and is guided it isn’t macro-evolution at all. It is design, creative reason as Pope Benedict XVI said.
If evolution is not blind and is guided it isn’t macro-evolution at all. It is design, creative reason as Pope Benedict XVI said.
LeafByNiggle
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Just because God is purposefully guiding all of creation does not mean His laws of nature must be contradicted by it (although sometimes they are.)
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buffalo
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It is always figurative even when it is not. Really?
Genesis does not contain purified myths. (Pontifical Biblical Commission 1909[
Genesis does not contain purified myths. (Pontifical Biblical Commission 1909[
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LeafByNiggle
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They are necessary for different purposes. God’s role in creation is necessary from a philosophical and religious perspective. The role of random mutations and natural selection is necessary from a scientific perspective. Both perspectives are necessary for a complete understanding of creation.anon65111186:
So random mutations ,natural selection and survival of the fittest aren’t necessary because God guides the whole process ?Techno2000:
Exactly, if evolution happened, He was present at every moment of it, allowing it, guiding it.
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buffalo
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If His laws of nature themselves are purposeful then it is design.
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anon65111186
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If by soul you mean principle of life, not immortal spirit, yes.
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buffalo
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Natural selection is now known to be a conservative process not a creative one. This leaves random mutations which result in loss of function and information.
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anon65111186
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Again the theory in itself claims that it is necessary to believe God has no part in it metaphysically?
Or rather some, not all evolutionists make that claim?
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