Is doubting Christ's absolute mercy a sin?

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What I mean by “absolute” is “unconditional”…

It seems like there is no limit to Christ’s unfathomable mercy, and that he freely gives it unconditionally to anyone who asks… yet - so many people seem to form judgments on what is sinful - it would seem to impute doubt at to the extent of Christ’s mercy…

So, if one decided there was such a limit, then would it be a sin?
 
What do you mean by “unconditional”? There is a condition for forgivness, that is that we must seek forgiveness through the Sacraments of the Church.

The Catechism gives a great answer about doubt:

2088 The first commandment requires us to nourish and protect our faith with prudence and vigilance, and to reject everything that is opposed to it. There are various ways of sinning against faith:

Voluntary doubt about the faith disregards or refuses to hold as true what God has revealed and the Church proposes for belief. Involuntary doubt refers to hesitation in believing, difficulty in overcoming objections connected with the faith, or also anxiety aroused by its obscurity. If deliberately cultivated doubt can lead to spiritual blindness.
 
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What I mean seems sort of obvious, but then it doesn’t always seem so easy to explain. That or I am just learning to discern it myself.

Jesus says the only sin that is unforgivable is a sin against the Holy Spirit itself, and that is because the Holy Spirit is itself the Spirit of Mercy and Forgiveness.

That basic precept comes from Jesus’ own words and straight from scripture, and he said them in response to people accusing him of being in collusion with beelzebul. As far as I can reckon, while Jesus was executed for blasphemy, as far as accusations are concerned - I dont think people could form a harder argument against him than being in collusion with the devil. I dont know if the Jews considered blasphemy the same thing as colluding with the devil, but accusing anyone of colluding with the devil would seem to be worse than blasphemy, i.e. it would seem to motivate the strongest form of doubt anyone could fathom against a person. In his trial Jesus’ accusers were accusing him of blasphemy for making himself out to be God. That is not the same thing as being deliberately in collusion with the devil. To be as clear as possible, it seems worse to accuse him of being in collusion with the devil.

Anyway, Jesus’ ultimate Holy response was just as absolute. The only unforgivable sin is that against the Holy Spirit… The crucifixion and resurrection seem to prove the absolute power of God’s unconditional love and mercy as ultimately expressed in the Holy Spirit at Pentecost - when Jesus ultimately fulfilled his entire mission at the birthday of our Church. In other words, if he could forgive everyone who was driving nails through his hands and feet, then I am not sure Jesus would mind forgiving half the stuff people seem to merely “worry” about in scruples.

The entire consequence of what I am asking here is intended to put to put to rest a lot of needless scruples that are actually pretty annoying and seemingly immaterial…

I feel like a lot of the time people (including me) end up thumping the Bible and come across more like Martha rather than Mary… That would mean a lot of the “sins” we may argue over are probably more like cap-off-the-toothpaste type stuff than anything so bad as to think Jesus wouldn’t forgive all of us all of them anyway…

I believe we should all strive toward piety, and we should do so with zeal, but sometimes it seems like scruples can trip us up… and that’s what I am trying to solve for…

Hoping this makes sense.

God’s Blessings.

Wm
 
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There is only one unforgiveable sin and that is Against the Holy Spirit.

It is unforgiveable because the person does not want to be forgiven.

God accepts our free will. If we are not repentant and do not want to be forgiven, then we refuse to accept Gods’ forgiveness and mercy. God will not force us to accept his forgiveness and mercy.

Edited to add:- see CCC #1864
 
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It is unforgiveable because the person does not want to be forgiven.
I dont think it is that easy…

A person in temptation teeters on a tightrope between aridity and sin… They may not want the temptation, but still succumb to the sin and not even like it…

Saint Paul actually makes this same claim in Romans 8 (?) when he says “I dont do what I want, but what I hate… Thank God for Jesus…”

The miscarriage of justice, which my question is aimed at addressing, is something like the idea of “friendly fire”…

People can use religion the wrong way, as when they crucified Christ, who was the greatest friend they ever could have had… but because they thought the saw - they were blind… it actually happens a lot still today…

What’s more remarkable, it seems, is when marginalized people and even sinners came forward to talk with Jesus despite the traditions… The disciples and even Jesus himself often behaved in much the same way…

So - that said - if it were possible to understand the full extent of Christ infinite and unfathomable mercy, even beyond our own perceptions of sin and doubt… what a gain we would make!

Or, honestly (and respectfully), is it we must find a way to rest content in studying and adhering to a bunch of rules we wouldnt even need if we were able to follow them all anyway…?
 
God accepts our free will. If we are not repentant and do not want to be forgiven, then we refuse to accept Gods’ forgiveness and mercy. God will not force us to accept his forgiveness and mercy.
btw, I’m not sure I follow you here, but if you sense my words reflect a negative direction… feel free to comment…

I’m honestly just trying to understand the matter myself…

It seems very hard to me…
 
I dont think it is that easy…
oh, but it is.
DOMINUM ET VIVIFICANTEM On the Holy Spirit in the Life of the Church and the World scroll down to part 6, #46 The Sin Against The Holy Spirit

Temptation and sin are two different things. Sin is when you consent to the temptation either through consenting to the thought and willfully continuing to think about it, or getting an idea to rob the bank and think that’s a great idea and then plan and carry it out, or when really angry and frustrated you think what’s the worst thing I can say I am sooo angry and then speak blasphemy taking Our Lords/Marys name in vain.
So - that said - if it were possible to understand the full extent of Christ infinite and unfathomable mercy, even beyond our own perceptions of sin and doubt… what a gain we would make!
Yes indeed - some saints have reached that level, I’m thinking of the different levels as mentioned in the book Interior Castle.

We are to study and learn our faith that is true. These “rules” are given us to help us reach heaven, to love God as He deserves to be loved and to love our neighbours as we should. They are for our benefit.
 
It is also the refusal to accept salvation.

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It is my opinion that if a person has an intelluctual doubt caused by the fact they don’t know, they don’t understand but they are trying to understand, this is completely different to someone who really does know and does understand but refuses to accept it or believe it - in other words they are willfully refusing to accept what is true.
 
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Am wondering why someone would decide that there is a limit. I know that we are limited, of that I have no doubt. We are in a culture which not only has lost concern about sin, but is quickly abandoning the very concept of sin. This has zero to do with God and everything to do with the prince of this world and our weakness.

During all periods of doubt, it is good to review four common tactics of the evil one.

 
Just because Christ forgives doesn’t mean that sins are trivial or that it doesn’t matter to try and work out what’s right and wrong
 
How about if I give an example, although I don’t want to derail the conversation, either. So - when contemplating the matter in the example below - please refer back to the original question.

Example: For various reasons, I have a difficulty with the rule that basically says we shouldn’t go to communion, unless we can receive it worthily. I’m a 50 y/o cradle Catholic, and I never had this problem (because I never really thought much about it) until I was upwards to 40. When I found out receiving unworthily was a mortal sin, I stopped going, unless I first went to confession before every mass to ensure I was in the proper disposition. Then - for various reasons - it happened I couldn’t always make it to confession, and now I rarely go to communion at all. I watch just about everyone else go, and I would bet a nickle a lot of them aren’t confessed, but I won’t go unless I have been able to avoid sin altogether, or I have been confessed.

Difficulty: The rule makes no logical sense to me at all for one simple reason. If one has committed a mortal sin, one is already damned, so why not just go ahead and receive communion? Spiritually, I can’t tell, but logically it seems like not going to communion on account of a mortal sin on one’s soul is the same as throwing the baby out with the bathwater. So where is the temptation in the spirit or the logic? I kind of feel stupid going to church and just sitting there without going to communion (which is the pinnacle of the mass).

Either way, now, let us return to the main question: "Is doubting Christ’s absolute mercy a sin?"

If I had my druthers, I think Christ’s absolute mercy would say, “Do it.”

But the rule, which I either dont agree with or see the logic to, says, “No you can’t go to communion (because of bad habits or the unavailability of Priests or scheduling problems or etc…)”

So, I don’t go, but then it gives rise to my original question.

My gut says, Christ is absolutely merciful, so dont believe that rule. The rule, as a limit, says no - that’s a temptation, so just sit in the pew. The result is that I doubt my gut.

My mind says, the correct procedure is to stay in the proper graces and/or go to confession first, and then receive worthily. My gut says, “Who made up these rules that don’t make any sense? Exactly where are all the Priests? Scheduling problems, conflicts of opinion, formalities, etc, etc, etc - where is the justice in it all? I seriously doubt this is what Christ meant…” The result is that I doubt both my own thinking and the rule itself, although perhaps somehow managing to uphold a sense of grace in a damnable posture anyway.

Does this example help clarify the nature of my question in the original post?

Let us please NOT begin a discussion on the nature of worthy reception. The rule for a worthy reception is what it is, and I dont think a forum discussions going to convince even Pope Francis (whom I like a great deal) to make strikingly new and infallible decisions on the matter. My question is aimed more at just understanding… probably… where I am going wrong?

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To me, this sounds like as a result of your realising what actions you did in the past in the example you gave, ie when you found out receiving unworthily was a mortal sin, this propped you for a second. And now it is making you second guess everything you do that is or may be a sin or perhaps your thinking may be along the lines of " well I didn’t know that was a sin, so what if this is a sin but I just don’t know? Perhaps it’d be better to not go to communion in case I do end up committing the mortal sin of a sacrilegious communion. I’ll remain in my pew and go to confession first". Does that sound familiar?

This is understandable, because it is a dreadful thing to commit a sacrilegious communion and that is the last thing you want to do. So to be sure you aren’t, you think it is best to go to confession first, then you can be sure you are in a state of grace to receive worthily. Am I thinking along the right lines here?
 
To continue…

So your mind goes this way and that way, consider this rule and that prohibition and round and round it goes until you end up more confused than before you started! And it all just becomes too hard to work out. So you think to yourself - "I give up trying to work it out, I’ll just go to confession first (and also ask the priest about whether it is a mortal sin or not), THEN I’ll be right to go to Communion. And your conscience is at peace. Peace, glorious peace, no guilt because you may have decided to go to communion and then realised afterwards that you shouldn’t have.

Hope I’m not on the wrong track here. Apologies if I am. I’m trying to make sure I am understanding you correctly.
 
So to be sure you aren’t , you think it is best to go to confession first , then you can be sure you are in a state of grace to receive worthily. Am I thinking along the right lines here?
Ugh… Yes and no and not exactly either/or…

I think you understand my position, but the reasoning is a bit different, which is why I wanted to lean away from the discussion of any one particular issue.

I was a philosophy major in undergrad, and - one of the things with post-enlightenment era philosophy and theology is there is always a counter-argument to every principle… Kant, who has departures from strict Christian doctrine, describes it in his antinomy of reason…

Essentially, what it means is, there’s two ways to perceive the rule about reception of the eucharist… In one sense, when we are forced to place (almost impracticable conditions) upon the reception of the eucharist, it would arguably not be sacrilegious because it would be self-defeating to Christ’s merciful mission to even sinful souls here on earth… to saving everything God his Father gave him…

On the other hand, it’s a rule, which started with St Paul, when certain wealthy people were excluding poorer people from participating in the mass… Somehow (we dont exactly know how) the poor people ended up dead - physically or spiritually - I dont think we know for sure… how St Paul intended those passages…

The whole idea seems to have somehow resulted in the mass being “normalized” in form, where everyone would receive the same communion in the same manner… I’m assuming here the main purpose would have been to maintain as much inclusion as possible in the interest of the salvation of souls… So if “the communion rule” was actually intended to facilitate inclusion, but people stopped going because they felt unworthy, then it seems like the rule (as I’m perceiving it anyway) would be self-defeating…

To me, if I had my druthers, I’d say, I dont think Jesus wants us to sin, and - even when we do - I dont think we could do much he hasn’t already seen and dealt with before 100X worse… But I also think in his mercy He wants to strengthen us spiritually in an effort to keep us away from evil…

In saying all of that… and since I’m pretty resolved I won’t really be able to go to communion so often anymore… I guess, I still have to have a reason to go to church, which I’m even having trouble with… since the mortal sins are what prevent the communion in the first place… again, if one cant receive worthily due to mortal sin, then - forget communion - why even bother to go to mass at all (if we cannot get to confession first)?

That said, I still have to hold fast to the idea that somehow Jesus was more merciful than any of us could ever imagine…
 
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So to be sure you aren’t , you think it is best to go to confession first , then you can be sure you are in a state of grace to receive worthily. Am I thinking along the right lines here?
Actually, now that I wrote out all that other stuff, I see your point… so yes…

The other stuff still bothers me though…

Hoping it makes sense. I also thank you for hearing me out on this point.
 
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So if “the communion rule” was actually intended to facilitate inclusion, but people stopped going because they felt unworthy, then it seems like the rule is self-defeating
It wasn’t intended to facilitate inclusion. See John 6:53-58

Holy Communion wasn’t always as frequent as it is now. Background history see - Frequent Communion

Current practice is we are obligated to receive Holy Communion at least once a year during the Easter season though for a just cause at another time during the year. Canon 920. Catholic are encouraged to attend daily Mass if possible and also communion if in the state of grace.

People don’t always receive communion for various reasons, some of which I can think of off the top of my head include - not in the state of grace, haven’t fasted for the hour prior to Communion, are not well, there are no low gluten hosts and it is the only form of communion at that particular church.
But I also think in his mercy He wants to strengthen us spiritually in an effort to keep us away from evil…
That’s true, but He also said in Corinthians Chapter 11 :27 “Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord.” Yes, Holy Communion does strengthen us.

But Jesus gave us the Sacrament of Penance/Reconciliation for the forgiveness of sin, in particular mortal sin.

Holy Communion forgives venial sin if the person has contrition and repentance for those venial sins.
I guess, I still have to have a reason to go to church, which I’m even having trouble with… since the mortal sins are what prevent the communion in the first place… again, if one cant receive worthily due to mortal sin, then - forget communion - why even bother to go to mass at all
Because of the Third Commandment - CCC The Third Commandment and it also mentions the Sunday obligation as a precept of the Church. I feel where you are coming from, I truly do, and it’s my opinion there are a lot of other Catholics who feel the same way.
 
What you are going through is hard. But satan will try any tactic to keep you away from Holy Communion, try to get you to give up, will do his best to discourage you, to try and make you lose hope of ever being able to work things out for yourself to be able to know whether you are in a state of grace and can go to communion.

I beg you, please for Jesus’ sake and yours, don’t give in to these temptations. Hang in there. Each day ask God to give you the grace to persevere, to strengthen you, to not let you go, to never let you separate yourself by mortal sin. Beg and plead him for these graces. Half the battle, is picking yourself up and starting again.
On the occassions when you feel you can’t receive Communion, make a Spiritual Communion. There are many prayers of Spiritual Communion online that are free for you to print out and take with you to Mass.

May I strongly advise you to find yourself a spiritual director, and stick with him and only him, to help you with this.
 
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