Is Dr. Scott Hahn an Opus Dei?

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Actually, he is a member of my mother’s parish, the one I grew up in, but he isn’t Eastern Catholic. Just wanted to clarify.

I found this on the web when I was out wandering. What do y’all think about it?

catholicintl.com/qa/2005/qa-jul-05.htm

Question 48- Why doesn’t Catholic Answers want to discuss Scott Hahn?

Bob
Being a registered member of Catholic Answers I posted a question on why the church hasn’t reprimanded Scott Hahn for writing the Holy Spirit is feminine in nature. That’s all I asked. I did put your website link to to article in my post. The post was soon removed.

So I re posted the same post and that was removed as well and I got a stern warning not to put another post of that nature up on the message board. Why would Catholic Answers ban my post? Shouldn’t other Catholics know what Hahn is writing? Just who is behind Catholic Answers? It sure seems to me this board is NOT open for honest discussion at all, but wants to control what favors the moderators views. What do you say Bob? I await your reply.

R. Sungenis: Catholic Answers has proven over and over again that they are not in Catholic apologetics solely for the sake of truth, but mainly for the sake of keeping up the status quo and to keep the money rolling in. Karl Keating, I’m sorry to say, has shown himself to be quite cowardly, since he will not address the tough issues facing us today in our own Catholic Church, and he has trained his staff to do likewise. You need to understand that Catholic apologetics today is based on ‘who knows who’ and ‘who will promote who.’ Most of the current apologists have made a pact not to critique each other’s work, no matter how bad it may be. As a result, we get unorthodox teachings, such as Hahn’s view of the Holy Spirit and his views on the sin of Adam and Eve, among other things. They think by doing this they are promoting Catholicism, but all they are really doing is facilitating error and stifling intellectual discussion. The ironic part is that Catholic Answers has shown that it has the ability to understand and critique false views, since it has done so well in the past in dealing with Protestantism. But when it comes to critiquing the doctrinal problems in main-line Catholicism, then Catholic Answers suddenly becomes mum. Very sad.
 
tiny'(name removed by moderator)my:
What is the general concensus on Scott Hahn on this board? I’m a newcomer, but very familiar with Dr. Hahn (he’s a member of our parish). What do you all think about his idea about original sin? That Adam’s sin was that he didn’t fight the devil? And what about his theory that the Holy Spirit is feminine? And how does Opus Dei fit into his theology? And how does the charismatic movement fit with Opus Dei? My opinion of his work is that it’s too protestant for my tastes. It really seeps in and permeates everything. Does anybody else get the sneaking suspicion that he is a plant? Maybe it’s just me.
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I think we can assume that as good as he is, not even Scott Hahn is always right. He has received a lot of flack (well deserved IMHO) about the Holy Spirit/feminine subject.

Much in scripture has many “levels” of theology. The concept of Adam’s sin would be one. Also, that Adam sinned in not laying down his life (saying no to the devil with possible dire consequences), and then the second Adam, Jesus, was willing to lay down His life for His spouse - the Church.

Even now there is an old “document” and audio tapes discovered which cast dispersions on Opus Dei - not the first time this has happened,

Link to follow.
 
“A Conversation with Dossetti and Lazzati. An Interview by Leopoldo Elia and Pietro Scoppola”

Might have to google to get more info
 
tiny'(name removed by moderator)my:
Does anybody else get the sneaking suspicion that he is a plant? Maybe it’s just me.
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I don’t think so… however, even St Paul prayed that he may not falter…, so at least pray for the strength in Dr Hahn.

aside…
Dr Hahn has conversed with R Sungenis on their viewpoints. Let’s not concern ourselves so much with them. The comments about a hesitancy to be critical of Catholic thought is worth pursueing though.

We tend to be “qualified” to correct or criticize the theology of other religions., And IMHO, it is often quite easy to find fault with our Muslim, JW, or LDS counterparts, based on what we believe. It is, after all, quite different from their beliefs.

But we are not all that trained to see the subtle differences or fine points presented by fellow Catholics that are often harmful, and sometimes heretical. CA really needs to consider that reality more often.

Lately, the 2CD set on the Priesthood is a good example of dealing with a “fine point” of the priesthood in the NT. I really recommend it.
 
tiny'(name removed by moderator)my:
catholicintl.com/qa/2005/qa-jul-05.htm

Question 48- Why doesn’t Catholic Answers want to discuss Scott Hahn?

Bob
Being a registered member of Catholic Answers I posted a question on why the church hasn’t reprimanded Scott Hahn for writing the Holy Spirit is feminine in nature. That’s all I asked. I did put your website link to to article in my post. The post was soon removed.
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I remember seeing that post, and nobody answering. It’s pretty simple, if I don’t know the answer, or am very familiar with the premise of the post, I’m not going to answer.

Even though the search engine on here isn’t great, I may try to find and see if the post is still there.

I, for one, have seen many people question Scott Hahn and get pretty rabid in their posts, and they’ve not been deleted, but I’m certainly not qualified to deny all charges for CA.

Back to your original question, I like his theory on Adam and Eve. It really helps fit some of the pieces together. He does make a leap of faith a couple of times (i.e. “You will not die if you eat the fruit but…”), but all of his answers seem to coincide with Catholic Teachings. It’s not like we used his methodology to come to these teachings.

Take Care!

Notworthy
 
tiny'(name removed by moderator)my:
Question 48- Why doesn’t Catholic Answers want to discuss Scott Hahn?

Bob
Being a registered member of Catholic Answers I posted a question on why the church hasn’t reprimanded Scott Hahn for writing the Holy Spirit is feminine in nature. That’s all I asked.
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I don’t know if marineboy is Bob in your post but, Scott Hahn, the Holy Spirit, and Rob Sungenis sounds like his post.

I don’t know.

Take Care!

Notworthy
 
Can anyone tell me why it matters if he is a member of Opus Dei or not? Would his being a member somehow make his work more or less valid or influential? I don’t see why it’s important to know.
 
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TPJCatholic:
notworty

Dr. Hahn is not infallible.
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And the choir says, “Amen”!

BTW, what’s your point? Did I say he was?

Take Care!

Notworthy
 
I’m a convert and very familiar with Scott Hahn. I just went to hear him talk at our church. He was excellent.

Being that he was raised protestant and an evangelical as well…just makes his style and approach to the Bible different then a lot of Catholics are comfortable with. Protestants are raised “interpreting the Bible” for themselves and it’s a hard habit to break. I think he interprets these things and obviously feels he is correct, but that doesn’t make it so. As Catholics, the only teachings we follow are those of the Church.

Scott Hahn is a well-read, extremely educated person. His insight into Catholicism is exceptional and very helpful for converts and cradle Catholics alike. Anyone interested in understanding the traditions of the Church, the reasons for why Catholics do what they do…should read him. It’s extremely enlightening.

That said…his teaching on the Holy Spirlit being feminine…seems harmless to me. It’s not an official teaching of the Church. He may or may not be right. I do not see it being offensive in anyway. But…that could be because I’m a convert!!
 
My opinion of his work is that it’s too protestant for my tastes. It really seeps in and permeates everything. Does anybody else get the sneaking suspicion that he is a plant? Maybe it’s just me
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What exactly is the reason you say that he is too protestant?
 
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jebojora:
That said…his teaching on the Holy Spirlit being feminine…seems harmless to me. It’s not an official teaching of the Church. He may or may not be right. I do not see it being offensive in anyway. But…that could be because I’m a convert!!
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I have been watching this post in the background, and Scott Hahn does not teach that the Holy Spirit is Feminine…Please, those that accuse him, please provide it in black and white.

From page 138 of his book: “there are no bodily features of gender and sexuality in the trinity.”

Here is also a quote from Patrick Madrid "
First, I should point out that Scott has been savagely criticzed elsewhere and far more vituperatively than anything anyone has flung at him here. The negative comments on this thread are tame compared to other things I’ve seen said about him elsewhere.

Second, I know Scott well and for many years, and I can assure you that he is not a feminist, he is not a Marxist (that’s funny), and he does not believe or teach that the Holy Spirit is female. As was pointed out by someone else, he explicitly rejects that notion in “First Comes Love.” What he has done, though, is point out the instances in Scripture and the Fathers where maternal language is employed in discussion about the mission of the Holy Spirit. He does not teach that one can argue thereby that the Holy Spirit is female. And he in no way is trying to “satisfy” radicals within the Church. Such a claim is absurd."

My summary:

I keep seeing these ACCUSATIONS, but usually accusations by people who don’t understand what it is he is saying.

Chipper
 
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Chipper:
I have been watching this post in the background, and Scott Hahn does not teach that the Holy Spirit is Feminine…Please, those that accuse him, please provide it in black and white.

From page 138 of his book: “there are no bodily features of gender and sexuality in the trinity.”

Here is also a quote from Patrick Madrid "
First, I should point out that Scott has been savagely criticzed elsewhere and far more vituperatively than anything anyone has flung at him here. The negative comments on this thread are tame compared to other things I’ve seen said about him elsewhere.

Second, I know Scott well and for many years, and I can assure you that he is not a feminist, he is not a Marxist (that’s funny), and he does not believe or teach that the Holy Spirit is female. As was pointed out by someone else, he explicitly rejects that notion in “First Comes Love.” What he has done, though, is point out the instances in Scripture and the Fathers where maternal language is employed in discussion about the mission of the Holy Spirit. He does not teach that one can argue thereby that the Holy Spirit is female. And he in no way is trying to “satisfy” radicals within the Church. Such a claim is absurd."

My summary:

I keep seeing these ACCUSATIONS, but usually accusations by people who don’t understand what it is he is saying.

Chipper
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So, just for an example that Mr. Hahn may or may not have used. We could say that the Holy Spirit nurtures our Faith. Nurturing is maternal language that is applied to the Holy Spirit. Of course, I would like to point out that this is a completely made up example to see if I’ve got what the previous poster said correctly.
 
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forthright:
Can anyone tell me why it matters if he is a member of Opus Dei or not? Would his being a member somehow make his work more or less valid or influential? I don’t see why it’s important to know.
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Yes please do why does this matter?
 
Of course the Holy Spirit isn’t female–a pure spirit has no gender (the angels are neither male nor female), however, it is interesting that the Third Person has chosen such a special relationship with Mary. St. Maximillian Kolbe believed Mary to be so filled with the Holy Spirit that she serves as a revelatory image of Him. I think the maternal metaphor is a good one.
 
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Chipper:
I have been watching this post in the background, and Scott Hahn does not teach that the Holy Spirit is Feminine…Please, those that accuse him, please provide it in black and white.

From page 138 of his book: “there are no bodily features of gender and sexuality in the trinity.”

Here is also a quote from Patrick Madrid "
First, I should point out that Scott has been savagely criticzed elsewhere and far more vituperatively than anything anyone has flung at him here. The negative comments on this thread are tame compared to other things I’ve seen said about him elsewhere.

Second, I know Scott well and for many years, and I can assure you that he is not a feminist, he is not a Marxist (that’s funny), and he does not believe or teach that the Holy Spirit is female. As was pointed out by someone else, he explicitly rejects that notion in “First Comes Love.” What he has done, though, is point out the instances in Scripture and the Fathers where maternal language is employed in discussion about the mission of the Holy Spirit. He does not teach that one can argue thereby that the Holy Spirit is female. And he in no way is trying to “satisfy” radicals within the Church. Such a claim is absurd."

My summary:

I keep seeing these ACCUSATIONS, but usually accusations by people who don’t understand what it is he is saying.

Chipper
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You know, this is one of those things I’ve always “heard” that he teaches, but I’ve never read it or heard him say it. So I stand corrected…I shouldn’t repeat things I’m not sure of.
 
He’s only written a book about it. haha

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Regarding the Holy Spirit thing…You know, I haven’t heard what he’s said about that, but I think someone took his words out of context or didn’t hear what Scott wanted you to hear. God has feminine qualities or he wouldn’t have created women, and unless I hear Scott call God “she”, I’ll have to take the weird accusations of Hahn turning into a liberal as nonsense. Scott seems to be more conservative, but I don’t even know how these terms apply to one’s Catholicicity. You’re either Catholic, or you’re not.
 
havemercy said:
He’s only written a book about it. haha
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The book is subtitled “My Spiritual Journey in Opus Dei,” and he credits his wife’s conversion to Opus Dei’s influence in his life. I suppose there may still be room for doubt, but it’s minimal.
 
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