God, I wouldn’t have thought that this movie could have such an impact. I saw the movie about a week ago. I’ve already read the book. There is something else I would recommend to all of you. It’s a documentary called “For the Bible tells me so”. Google it, or you can watch it free on youtube. It’s a must see. They don’t present Bobby’s case, but similar cases.
Ooh, unfortunate choice of words. To “go against your nature” is practically the definition of sin.
I go against my nature by remaining celibate. But there is nothing to hate in the homosexual orientation because it is not a sin.
I don’t embrace the lifestyle. But I embrace the orientation because there is NOTHING wrong with it.
goofyjim, why do you feel that you must remain celibate? Is this a “the Catholic Church said I must do it” thing or something else?
So the moral; of the story is the woman should have abandoned her faith annd embraced her sons sin?
Well yes. The Catholic Church still speaks for God. We are expected to relinquish a little control of our lives to be obedient to ahigher authority than just ourselves. But what I am sick and tired of is the notion that there is something wrong with just being homosexual or equating homosexuals with pedophiles. Some people would have you believe that if you profess to be homosexual you need to have everyone keep an extra eye on you and that you are automatically uinsafe around children. I have never considered doing the least thing to a child and am therefore as safe as any conservative on these forums. I am not called to the teaching profession but if I was I shouldn’t be barred from it. As a celibate individual I deserve the right tod o whatever any heterosexual person can do. Join the military, teach, or whatever. It is only if I act on it that I should then be asked to leave. The orientation could never be achoice because noone would choose to put up with the insults of being called mentally ill and disordered. God made me this way and He must have known I would be this way from the beginning of time. He only tells me to avoid the behavior.
What do you mean by lifestyle? If the church says that it is nothing wrong with it, and if the homosexual person didn’t chose this tendency, then why shouldn’t gay people get into a relationship and live in the Christian manner, i.e one single partner, a life devoted to God, etc, ?
Obviously, if you’ve seen my posts on here, I couldn’t agree with you more. My question to you is, why do you adhere to an authority that rejects you so completely? Is it worth the fight? Or are there perhaps other alternatives for following the God whom you love and the God who loves you?
No, she should have been proud for provoking him to commit suicide and continue going to her church and saying that God is love.
Compare it to alcoholism. There is a gene that predisposes on to alcoholism. But everyone equally has a dutynot to get drunk and gve into disorderly behavior.
Right, because there is actually a rational reason for why alcoholism is wrong - it destroys your body, your mind, your loved ones, etc. There is no rational reason for why homosexuality is wrong.
It’s hard for me to do that. First of all, a drunk alcoholic isn’t in his full consciousness, this making him aggressive towards others (i.e beating his wife and children) and alters his health by causing liver damage or coma. It is by all means a disorder.
we said the same thing on the same timelol I know I was about to yell “jinx”!
Forgive me for not going into detail the medical reasons why homosexual behavior is riskier than heterosexual behavior, but it is.
This is not true. However, there were some studies that asserted that heterosexual sex can cause certain forms of cancer. (Of course, this may be exaggerate)
I’m not sure I agree with that if precautions are taken. But even if you are right, does that make it wrong? We all commit risky behaviors every day.
Dude, I thought I was just discussing the issue with you. I have no idea how what I’m doing is “tempting” anybody. I’m simply encouraging you to think through it further. I don’t even know you but all I would want for anyone is for them to be able to enjoy their lives fully, which includes enjoying their bodies for what they are.