Is Homosexuality Genetic?

[Neolithic]

The church says that it is a disorderd lifestyle. I don’t think there is any dispute that their lifestyle is dangerous to themselves. The very few times I have seen somebody express hate or intolerance towards homosexuals I reported them to the moderators. It is my experience that generally what people call hate and intolerance is merely expressing the church teaching on the sinfulness and disorderedness of homosexual behavior

There is plenty of dispute.

The science idoes not say that homosexuality is not a choice. There is some evidence that same-sex attraction might have a genetic component however we are talking about homosexual behavior. Homosexual behavior is a choice 100% of the time(barring, of course, homosexual rape).

I think we have to keep in mind that we’re in a Catholic forum. I have run across threads where young people have come in here expressing confusion about their sexual orientation and have had posters jump in and tell them they should embrace the homosexual lifestyle,that there is nothing wrong with it. To me that was a far bigger problem than any alleged hate and intolerance

The science does say that homosexuality is NOT a choice. In fact, I posted over 40 studies and the opinion of every major medical institution in the world proving this, as well as my own professional explanation. So what you have to say matters very little to me. NARTH is not credible and neither is ACPeds. Those are the only two known groups that I know of who disagree with mainstream scientific thought.

If you’re talking about the acts, like I said, that obviously is a choice. Heterosexual sex is a choice. But the orientation is not a choice, nor is it mostly genetic. There are some genetic components to it, but few, in my opinion. The twin study proved this, I feel.

And when the lifestyle cannot be changed, and I don’t believe it can, then why not embrace who they are as people? They should deny themselves happiness because it makes you blush? We’ll have to document that.

 

[estesbob]

No, she should have been proud for provoking him to commit suicide and continue going to her church and saying that God is love.

I am sorry, but I see do don’t have any limits in hate, do you?

It is not an either or proposition. one can maintian their faith and not embrace a childs sin while still loving them and trying to guide them … I think the greatest act of love one can show someone who has embraced the homosexual lifestyle is to try to help them overcome their sin.

 

[thewalrus]

It is not an either or proposition. one can maintian their faith and not embrace a childs sin while still loving them and trying to guide them … I think the greatest act of love one can show someone who has embraced the homosexual lifestyle is to try to help them overcome their sin.

A greater act of love would be to recognize that it’s not a sin in the first place and to embrace them with love as God does.

 

[yngve]

It is not an either or proposition. one can maintian their faith and not embrace a childs sin while still loving them and trying to guide them … I think the greatest act of love one can show someone who has embraced the homosexual lifestyle is to try to help them overcome their sin.

Imagine heterosexual lifestyle was a sin and imagine being asked to overcome it. As direct reference to the Bobby Griffith case, that’s what her mother attempted to do. The result: her son committed suicide. And believe me: there are a lot of documented cases like this, most of them coming from the fundamentalist ‘Christian’ families.

 

[estesbob]

A greater act of love would be to recognize that it’s not a sin in the first place and to embrace them with love as God does.

When you encourage one to sin you sin yourself. Validating someone sin is not love.

 

[thewalrus]

When you encourage one to sin you sin yourself. Validating someone sin is not love.

When you judge someone, you judge yourself. Judging something that is not a sin is not love.

 

[yngve]

When you encourage one to sin you sin yourself. Validating someone sin is not love.

Indeed, that’s true, if we were discussing a sin it would have applied.

 

[buffalo]

Obviously, if you’ve seen my posts on here, I couldn’t agree with you more. My question to you is, why do you adhere to an authority that rejects you so completely? Is it worth the fight? Or are there perhaps other alternatives for following the God whom you love and the God who loves you?

Ahh - Now we see the real reason you are here.

 

[thewalrus]

Ahh - Now we see the real reason you are here.

That obvious, huh? Indeed, my mission in life is to single-handedly turn everyone away from the Catholic Church and for them all to become militantly Protestant. If that doesn’t happen anytime soon, then I just want the whole world to suffer for it. The way I make that happen is to turn everyone gay and have them get married, which, according to Bennie, will set the world’s destruction into motion like a grand domino-effect. I just figured the best place to start was an internet forum but clearly I’m not good at planning such things.

 

[TraderTif]

Is Homosexuality Genetic?

Does that really matter?

 

[jtindell]

So the moral; of the story is the woman should have abandoned her faith annd embraced her sons sin?

Well atleast the kid would still be alive!

 

[Brendan]

Well atleast the kid would still be alive!

Is temporal life the ultimate goal?

 

[fix]

We need many more authentically Catholic psychologists and physicians, and politicians, and all else.

If not we will continue this downward spiral where truth is relative, and “scientific” studies are seen as “proof” acting wrongly is good.

We now have professional groups claiming abortion, contraception, IVF, masturbation, homosexual acts, and much more is “healthy”. Of course all this is because they start from an erroneous foundation.

Anything that can be done is seen as allowable.

The results are all around us for all to see and complain about. Sometimes called the culture of death.

 

[buffalo]

This is not true. However, there were some studies that asserted that heterosexual sex can cause certain forms of cancer. (Of course, this may be exaggerate)

PATHOPHYSIOLOGY OF MALE HOMOSEXUALITY

…In addition to infections and trauma, tumors are a
uerlnlte rlsK ror nomosexual men. Innornosexual ~enavior in
men is a risk factor for anal cancer. Squamous-cell anal
cancer is also associated with a history of genital warts,
an association suggesting that papillomavirus infection is a
cause of anal cancerw (Daling, 1987). Anal warts are
commonly found among individuals who practice anal
intercourse and only rarely found among heterosexuals
practicing vaginal intercourse. "In one series of 260
homosexual men seen by proctologists, 134 (51.5 percent) had
anal warts. They may occur anywhere in the anal-genital
area but are particularly common in the anus of homosexual
menw (Quinn, 1984). This infection appears to be correlated
with the higher incidence of anal cancer in homosexual men.

 

[pathia]

PATHOPHYSIOLOGY OF MALE HOMOSEXUALITY

…In addition to infections and trauma, tumors are a
uerlnlte rlsK ror nomosexual men. Innornosexual ~enavior in
men is a risk factor for anal cancer. Squamous-cell anal
cancer is also associated with a history of genital warts,
an association suggesting that papillomavirus infection is a
cause of anal cancerw (Daling, 1987). Anal warts are
commonly found among individuals who practice anal
intercourse and only rarely found among heterosexuals
practicing vaginal intercourse. "In one series of 260
homosexual men seen by proctologists, 134 (51.5 percent) had
anal warts. They may occur anywhere in the anal-genital
area but are particularly common in the anus of homosexual
menw (Quinn, 1984). This infection appears to be correlated
with the higher incidence of anal cancer in homosexual men.

Funny, just about every gay man I know doesn’t really care for this sort of sex. You assume that gay men 100% engage in this behavior, even when they are ‘practicing’? I have found this to be remarkably untrue in reality.

 

[buffalo]

Funny, just about every gay man I know doesn’t really care for this sort of sex. You assume that gay men 100% engage in this behavior, even when they are ‘practicing’? I have found this to be remarkably untrue in reality.

Anal intercourse is not practiced anymore?

 

[estesbob]

Indeed, that’s true, if we were discussing a sin it would have applied.

I noticed by your profile you’re Catholic. Evidently you have insight into the teachings of the Church that eluded the rest of us, Can you give us a list of other teachings of the church that are incorrect? It really would be helpful but of course then the question is going to be if the Church is lying to us about homosexual behavior being a sin how do we know they are not lying to us about the resurrection of Christ?

 

[pathia]

Anal intercourse is not practiced anymore?

Of course it is, but not as often as you might think.

 

[buffalo]

Of course it is, but not as often as you might think.

You guys actually sit around and talk about this stuff?

 

[pathia]

You guys actually sit around and talk about this stuff?

When it is deemed socially acceptable for a new coworker I don’t really know to come up and ask ‘Hey, have you cut your beep off yet?’. Talking ‘shop’ about sex is like…talking about the weather.

Also, keep in mind there will be zero instructions on how to be safely gay at home, at school, everywhere. The only way to find out the right way and the wrong way, is by others in the community. There is no sex ed, there is nothing about anything, anywhere (Well, until the internet at least). This is one of the reasons why there ARE problems in gay men, they have no idea how to do what they do, without hurting each other, because there’s no education.

Contrary to popular belief, even hetero sex isn’t exactly something people instinctual know about. I’ve met all sorts of crazy things and ideas my straight friends have experienced or tried. We all laugh about them now, but if they had continued, it would have caused medical issues down the road. Parents or school, hopefully BOTH will have let the kids know how it is to safely be done.

Gay kids don’t have their parents sit down and talk about the birds and the bees, if they do, they discuss hetero sex and it doesn’t really apply to them in the same ways. They get zero anything, contrary to popular belief that programs are ‘teaching kids to be gay’ in sex ed now, really all they do is say ‘wear a condom’ and that’s about it.