Is Homosexuality Genetic?

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Jennifer123 said:
This one? This can say it better than I ever could:
couragerc.net/PIPElevenChurchTeachings.html

But basically, homosexuality is a disordered human condition that uses sex in a way that wasn’t intended and the consequences, mostly selfish in nature, are disastrous for both the individual and society.
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Wasn’t intended? But the design seems to work fine that way,men have prostates that can be stimulated.

If we were accepting of and did not care about homosexuals and what they did how is is disastrous for the individual.

And how is it disastrous for society?

I browsed through that and it was all mainly church this and that and biblical didn’t really say anything. Perhaps you could copy the points where it makes about this or articulate it in your own words as I have missed it completely.
 
Jennifer123 said:
Understanding behavioral traits influenced by genetics is very complex as there may be multiple genes involved combined with environmental factors as you are aware. It is not as simple as seeing correlations and making assumptions about causation. It is just simply ridiculous - there are traits that are innate, some that are familial, some that are biological, and those environmental, then there are direct and indirect causes. In an behavioral state such as homosexuality, it is pretty much beyond science right now to determine a cause. Science still hasn’t figured out schizophrenia and that is after a century of study. Combine that with the pressure given to NOT study homosexuality in a psychological way, as in a disordered condition, and well, there you go.
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Qualifying the following remarks: I did NOT read all the posts but want to make my point without saying it. ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32366

After reading through this Make a mental note of the following paragraph:
Some disturbing new research indicates that certain physiological changes in the brain may be permanent conditions. Some survivors with RR-PTSD are unable to accurately gauge the passage of time. Consequently, they are likely to show up for appointments late, early, or not at all. Another possible permanent side effect is a kind of tunnel vision. Victims may be unable to see the “big picture” which results in difficulty distinguishing between a little crisis and a big crisis. Therefore, all events in their lives are viewed as crises.
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Environment, interaction of any kind can make us weaker or lead us to be inclinded towards something not healthy for us.
 
Jennifer123 said:
This one? This can say it better than I ever could:
couragerc.net/PIPElevenChurchTeachings.html
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Without using religion. In this county, religion is a personal matter.
But basically, homosexuality is a disordered human condition that uses sex in a way that wasn’t intended and the consequences, mostly selfish in nature, are disastrous for both the individual and society.
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No, it is not a disorder. I believe I posted over 40 studies proving this.

In other words, you have no argument. You will continue using religion to justify your prejudice.
 
Jennifer123 said:
Yes it is. Men are not equipped to be with other men. Women are not equipped to be with other women. Even my 4 yo knows that.
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Look I function quite well despite ahomosexual orientation. I am not dysfunctional in the least. I work a fulltime job, id o all the other things normal people do. I don’t engage in sexual activity but I have ahomosexual orientation which is not debilitating whatsoever. I don’t need to see a doctor or anyone else to change what doesn’t need to be changed.
 
Abbadon said:
Wasn’t intended? But the design seems to work fine that way,men have prostates that can be stimulated.
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catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html

"The list of diseases found with extraordinary frequency among male homosexual practitioners as a result of anal intercourse is alarming:

Anal Cancer
Chlamydia trachomatis
Cryptosporidium
Giardia lamblia
Herpes simplex virus
Human immunodeficiency virus
Human papilloma virus
Isospora belli
Microsporidia
Gonorrhea
Viral hepatitis types B & C
Syphilis25

Sexual transmission of some of these diseases is so rare in the exclusively heterosexual population as to be virtually unknown."
Abbadon said:
If we were accepting of and did not care about homosexuals and what they did how is is disastrous for the individual.

And how is it disastrous for society?

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We care enough about homosexuals to tell them that what they are actively engaging in is harmful to them! How is that not caring? If I knew you to be reaching for a hot pan and knew you’d scorch yourself, is it really loving to think, well, I guess he’ll learn that pan is hot and not tell you in advance?

Basically, homosexual sex is self-indulgent by its very nature. This is also true of all sexual activities that are void of life-giving potential. Homosexual sex, as well as contraceptive sex, leads us to take advantage of each other in a selfish and utilitarian way, and leads to pornography and sexual enslavement, a huge problem, as well as the larger number of STD’s today, and further more the creeping acceptance of euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Support for homosexuality is to condone the radical idea that gender is irrelevant and meaningless, and homosexual marriage is a horrible social experiment gone awry which negatively affects the children involved.
 
panoikei said:
Environment, interaction of any kind can make us weaker or lead us to be inclinded towards something not healthy for us.
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Yes so without a religious agenda what is so bad about homosexuality that cannot be said about heterosexuality?
 
Neolithic said:
Without using religion. In this county, religion is a personal matter.

No, it is not a disorder. I believe I posted over 40 studies proving this.

In other words, you have no argument. You will continue using religion to justify your prejudice.
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No - your studies don’t prove anything. Sorry. It is a disordered condition as put forth in over 40 pages of discussion. You may not want to believe that, but it is not a natural state of being.
 
Jennifer, I have noticed that you have either started or participate in an awful lot of threads concerning homosexuality. To a psychologist like myself, this is quite telling… You have some obsession with this issue.
 
Jennifer123 said:
catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html

"The list of diseases found with extraordinary frequency among male homosexual practitioners as a result of anal intercourse is alarming:

Anal Cancer
Chlamydia trachomatis
Cryptosporidium
Giardia lamblia
Herpes simplex virus
Human immunodeficiency virus
Human papilloma virus
Isospora belli
Microsporidia
Gonorrhea
Viral hepatitis types B & C
Syphilis25

Sexual transmission of some of these diseases is so rare in the exclusively heterosexual population as to be virtually unknown."

We care enough about homosexuals to tell them that what they are actively engaging in is harmful to them! How is that not caring? If I knew you to be reaching for a hot pan and knew you’d scorch yourself, is it really loving to think, well, I guess he’ll learn that pan is hot and not tell you in advance?

Basically, homosexual sex is self-indulgent by its very nature. This is also true of all sexual activities that are void of life-giving potential. Homosexual sex, as well as contraceptive sex, leads us to take advantage of each other in a selfish and utilitarian way, and leads to pornography and sexual enslavement, a huge problem, as well as the larger number of STD’s today, and further more the creeping acceptance of euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Support for homosexuality is to condone the radical idea that gender is irrelevant and meaningless, and homosexual marriage is a horrible social experiment gone awry which negatively affects the children involved.
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And I for one agree on the severe risks of homsexual behavior but I see no need to require a change in the orientation.
 
“male homosexual practitioners”? LOL
Must be up there with the chiropractors, I guess.

Honestly, from a personal perspective, I could care less if gays and lesbians are born that way. All I know is that being a bisexual male, I didn’t choose to be bi. It would be unnatural for me to pretend to be something I am not, namely a gay man or a straight man. Just my view.
 
Jennifer123 said:
No - your studies don’t prove anything. Sorry. It is a disordered condition as put forth in over 40 pages of discussion. You may not want to believe that, but it is not a natural state of being.
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maybe 50 years ago but no medical or psychological, psychiatric board believes that any more. They officially state the opposite.

How can you say that? these studies show a clear correlation. It is statistically significant.

Why are you in so hard denial?
 
Neolithic said:
Jennifer, I have noticed that you have either started or participate in an awful lot of threads concerning homosexuality. To a psychologist like myself, this is quite telling… You have some obsession with this issue.
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Yes, I am a latent homosexual. :rolleyes: I have an obsession with truth.
 
Neolithic said:
Please explain how homosexuality is dysfunctional. I have already presented over 40 studies that prove homosexuals and homosexual relationships are no more dysfunctional than heterosexuals and heterosexual relationships. Perhaps you should read the thread thoroughly.

Animals that engage in homosexuality that have not been “influenced” by man? Certainly.
  • Dolphins
  • Penguins
  • Sheep
  • Fruit Bats
  • Beetles
  • Orangutans
  • Male Flamingos
  • Orcas
  • Gray Whales
  • West Indian Manatees
  • Japanese macaques
  • And many others
National Geographic

And, yes, your question was ridiculous.
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My dog licks his anus, snakes eat their young-does that mean its “natural” if we do too?

You presented not one study thay proved homosexual behavior is genetic. you posted some that said SSA MIGHT have a genetic component…
 
Abbadon said:
maybe 50 years ago but no medical or psychological, psychiatric board believes that any more. They officially state the opposite.

How can you say that? these studies show a clear correlation. It is statistically significant.

Why are you in so hard denial?
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You have no idea how that change in classification occurred. I do. I am not in denial. You are in a state of manipulation.
 
Abbadon said:
You continue to maintain this position in the face of all the evidence presented to you that homosexual desires are natural and occur in nature.
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But they do NOT produce fruit…only death.
 
Well I’m out I have an organic chemistry exam to study for. Thankfully society (mine especially, Australia) is heading in the direction I desire so… YAY…
 
estesbob said:
My dog licks his anus, snakes eat their young-does that mean its “natural” if we do too?

You presented not one study thay proved homosexual behavior is genetic. you posted some that said SSA MIGHT have a genetic component…
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And if you look at me as an example, you’ll find none of those theories that cause same sex attraction apply, nada, not one. I am living proof that same sex attraction is inborn but the behavior is a choice. Case closed.
 
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