Is Islam a threat to Christianity around the globe?

[KathleenGee]

(Snake Mauler, some of the early Christians were killed because they were knocking pagan Roman deity statues down. When they were executed for civil disobedience, the Church did not consider that martyrdom, but suicide.)

 

[KathleenGee]

Our media is compromised…

May be spending more time in Adoration, reflecting on Scripture will help people like me discern…

I do believe the ante is up in the world, and we are soon to be seeing a number of attacks…a third jihad was launched on a jet going to San Francisco…so the fellow was already locked up in the bathroom saying he was being abused.

Watch him take the whole incident to court and win a settlement…Hope not…but it looks like they are going to use these incidents to further bleed our economy…

 

[jewells17]

(Snake Mauler, some of the early Christians were killed because they were knocking pagan Roman deity statues down. When they were executed for civil disobedience, the Church did not consider that martyrdom, but suicide.)

Please provide your source for this info…so we can all read it or look it up. Thanks.

 

[KathleenGee]

Actually Jewells, I heard that on the first Catholic radio in the USA, K-BVM. We have all sorts of instructors coming on … heard it while driving out in the countryside…15 years ago? Thought it interesting for zealous Catholics to know…

 

[staffsgt7]

You seem to be right in what you said. But there cannot be any threat to the civilisation from few terrorists. These terrorists are not more powerful than Hitler or the Japanese. The Japanese suicide bombers had tried their tactics. But they failed. So will be the case of those terrorists who are blowing themselves up.

Their enegy will be exhausted and that will be the end of it, after much damage to the public. The end result will be bad for those who are killing people. That is not the field to defeat any one. The real field is in moral grounds. They do not have any moral grounds for what they are doing.

So you need not worry. They will be defeated eventually. The world is not too small. It is a big world. The terrorists and their silly supporters will disappear and may go in the hide-out. Already they are being killed and surrounded.

Islam will never attack Christianity or Jesus. There will be some war of words. But no more. That will be available to both sides. I know that the Muslims are not allowing free speeches to the church people in Muslim countries. That is a good proof that they are wrong in doing that. It is not Islamic. It is anti-Islamic to prevent people from preacing (peacefully) any faith.

I admit that there is freedom in western countries which is lacking in Muslim countries. I know the reason for that. But it is not good to disclose it here now. It is due to some misunderstanding of the word Kufr by the Muslims. That is all.

And you are totally discounting the stealth Jihad that is being done by the Muslim Brotherhood. Their front groups are endless. But some notable ones are MSA/MSU which is a recruiting group in our Universities. MPAC is influencing our media, CAIR and others influence polticians. And the mosques and their texts are being stocked by Saudi wahabbis. I don’t want to forget the clerics in our prisons either. That same Brotherhood is affiliated with the wahabbis in Saudi Arabia, Hamas, Hezollah, Jamaat al Fuqura, Abu Sayaff, Jamaat e islami,

this pjtv video tells us that EVERY MUSLIM ORGANIZATION IN THE USA IS A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD FRONT ORGANIZATION.

This was gotten from the Holy Land foundation trial what the Muslim Brotherhood plans for us:

The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a “Civilization-Jihadist” process with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” their miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all religions.”

Your words ring hollow. Jihad is a requirement of ALL Muslims. 1400 years of Jihad hasn’t slowed them down. They might have a slowdown but it never stops. And the plan of the Muslim Brotherhood should tell us one thing that they think they have all the time in the world. This is a 100 yr plan, they are 30 years into it, and we see how successful they are so far. And Europe is much further along in the Islamization OR the destruction of their civilization from within to replace it with a stagnant, barbaric civilization of honor killings, pediphilia, killing women if they get raped, no freedom or tolerance of anyone who is not Muslim or even Muslim-enough, etc.

The video I mention is VERY telling of what the Muslim Brotherhood is all about - a must see by all.

 

[KathleenGee]

The Muslim Brotherhood’s origins came out of Egypt and were in collusion with the Nazis…

I also believe their time is coming to an end…at this age…

I finished my rosary today and prayed for all people who come to CAF and for our country.

I prayed that we would gain new leadership, that able-bodied people would rise up to defend us, and for all those who are hidden right now under the banner of the Cross, who are preparing in God through ancient disciplines.

I prayed for all the Muslims who seek peace with their neighbor as well.

 

[jewells17]

The Muslim Brotherhood’s origins came out of Egypt and were in collusion with the Nazis…

I also believe their time is coming to an end…at this age…

I finished my rosary today and prayed for all people who come to CAF and for our country.

I prayed that we would gain new leadership, that able-bodied people would rise up to defend us, and for all those who are hidden right now under the banner of the Cross, who are preparing in God through ancient disciplines.

I prayed for all the Muslims who seek peace with their neighbor as well.

Preparing in God through ancient disciplines sounds so sacred…which disciplines? There are so many different ones in the Catholic Church…I hope you will share the ones you speak of.

 

[KathleenGee]

I know of an ancient order that is being prepared right now under the banner of the Holy Cross…they have a cardinal overseeing them…

 

[servantofallah]

If you’re getting shot down by people because of your faith, then yes, you’re a martyr. However, if you’re shot to death because you’re trying to blow yourself up and kill everyone, then that’s just self defense in their part and attempted murder in your part, therefore sending you to hell. You’re not a martyr if you’re TRYING to make yourself a martyr. If all the extremist Muslims just went home and went about their business there wouldn’t be any problems. They’re instigating the conflict.

Are you saying that Muslims are terrorists? You are a very sick and twisted person. May Allah guide you.

So a couple of Muslims blow something up… that makes it fair to group us all together as terrorists? Christian’s kill people. Catholics have bombed places. But we don’t go around claiming all of you are terrorists!

 

[jewells17]

I know of an ancient order that is being prepared right now under the banner of the Holy Cross…they have a cardinal overseeing them…

Thanks Kathleen for the info and we keep doing what our Lord taught us to do…just keep praying!

 

[KathleenGee]

Servantofallah,

Well, a few days ago a handful of American Muslims made a peaceful demonstration here in the homeland…It is the first time, after 9/11 and many Muslims coming into our country, inspite of the rhetoric that they hate us, to come here to live, and many times, to demand favors of us they would deny to us if we were in their country.

I was very happy to finally see Muslims wearing modest American clothes-- no floozy stuff–carrying the American flag, calling themselves Muslim Americans and denouncing terrorism.

Also before that, imams in Canada and America came forward also denouncing terrorism, making a fatwa against that…it made me very happy.

But what made me sad, is that only 12 American Muslims out of the entire USA defended our country and denounced terrorism, and of the imams, only one of them was American.

 

[PA650]

Servantofallah,

Well, a few days ago a handful of American Muslims made a peaceful demonstration here in the homeland…It is the first time, after 9/11 and many Muslims coming into our country, inspite of the rhetoric that they hate us, to come here to live, and many times, to demand favors of us they would deny to us if we were in their country.

I was very happy to finally see Muslims wearing modest American clothes-- no floozy stuff–carrying the American flag, calling themselves Muslim Americans and denouncing terrorism.

Also before that, imams in Canada and America came forward also denouncing terrorism, making a fatwa against that…it made me very happy.

But what made me sad, is that only 12 American Muslims out of the entire USA defended our country and denounced terrorism, and of the imams, only one of them was American.

Well, not all were happy about it.

The Muslim organizer of a rally last week in Detroit against terrorism said he received a death threat over the phone from a man with an Arabic accent who was upset that he spoke out against other Muslims.
freep.com/article/20100112/NEWS05/100112009/1322/Muslim-rally-organizer-claims-death-threats

 

[akaraiwecharles]

ISLAM AND THE CATHOLIC FAITH
This is basis of the final separation of the forces of Good and Evil in the Spiritual Realm.
The Almighty God made this battle-draw through His call of Abraham.
Satan rules over the earth and human race with the power of Sin and Death.
Following the covenant of God with Moses and the people of Israel, based on the Law [Ten Commandments] our human imperfection made it impossible for Moses and the people of Israel to satisfy the letters of the Law to divine perfection.
And the failure of the Israelite Nation put them and the rest of the world under the stranglehold of sin and Satan.
The coming of Jesus Christ, the Son of God reveals God’s universal vision of Salvation for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and their descendants more deeply.
The Children of Abraham are the chosen people of God from the four corners of the Globe.
Biological consideration is not a determining factor. Even our religious inclinations is not a decisive factor.
Satan must be judged as the Father of the Dead Children of Abraham represented by Ishmael, Esau and everyone rejected by the Lord and condemned on the last day.
For them there would be no resurrection to Life, and must remain banished in hell forever with Satan and his spiritual forces of Evil.
The Living God is happy to take responsibility for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and His chosen ones redeemed through the righteous blood of Christ.
They would remain the chosen children of God forever in Heaven.
The righteousness and triumph of Christ over Satan and his wicked forces, overthrew the covenant of Moses based on the written letters of the Law, prompting hatred and vengeance] which is Satan’s power to kill.
This has been replaced with the new and everlasting covenant of God based on the Law of Love. Love of God and the love of our neighbours fully satisfy the command and letters of the law of God.
Satan’s campaign through Islam is re- introducing the Law of Sin and Death, to hold humanity in bondage and distract our focus from the Holy Cross, from where comes our healing and salvation.
It is part of the spiritual warfare in this final phase of the battle which the Holy Spirit is leading us to ultimate victory.
Meanwhile, you would understand more from the Rosary membership of this forum where I am revealing the unholy invasion and desecration of our sacred altar by Islam.
You must bear in mind however, that the extent we show our love to one another, through caring and charity determines how Catholic we are. [Religious inclinations not withstanding]
In the same manner, our hatred and vengeance towards one another can only make us truly Muslims.
Yours brotherly Akaraiwe Charles

 

[KathleenGee]

Years ago my friend told me many Muslims here support our country.

But if they speak out in defense of it, they receive death threats.

Some Muslims were killed in the USA for freedom of speech.

So I am for screening the good from the bad…keep the bad out and stop searching little old American ladies at the airports as well for the sake of political correctness…

 

[sedonaman]

… But there cannot be any threat to the civilisation from few terrorists. These terrorists are not more powerful than Hitler or the Japanese. …

Hitler didn’t wake up one morning to find himself all-of-a-sudden magically transformed from a leader of a street gang into a powerful leader of a country. It took 10 years of political maneuvering. Any group that uses similar tactics is a threat to civilization, and it is better to stop it while it can be stopped easily instead of letting the situation degrade to a wold war.

 

[SnakeMauler]

Are you saying that Muslims are terrorists? You are a very sick and twisted person. May Allah guide you.

So a couple of Muslims blow something up… that makes it fair to group us all together as terrorists? Christian’s kill people. Catholics have bombed places. But we don’t go around claiming all of you are terrorists!

I was suggesting that Muslim countries could do a bit more to surpress terrorism.

Servantofallah,

Well, a few days ago a handful of American Muslims made a peaceful demonstration here in the homeland…It is the first time, after 9/11 and many Muslims coming into our country, inspite of the rhetoric that they hate us, to come here to live, and many times, to demand favors of us they would deny to us if we were in their country.

I was very happy to finally see Muslims wearing modest American clothes-- no floozy stuff–carrying the American flag, calling themselves Muslim Americans and denouncing terrorism.

Also before that, imams in Canada and America came forward also denouncing terrorism, making a fatwa against that…it made me very happy.

But what made me sad, is that only 12 American Muslims out of the entire USA defended our country and denounced terrorism, and of the imams, only one of them was American.

Not good enough. Calling yourself “Muslim American” simply means that you’ve conformed to American ways, but still have not rid yourself of the whole Muslim law system and still have it engraved into your mind. “A Muslim who lives in America” would simply mean that he’s an average American guy with an acceptable amount of patriotism who happens to practice Islam. I’d prefer to see the guys call themselves “Americans”. There’s no reason to call yourself a “Muslim American”, because there’s nothing special about calling yourself a “Catholic American” (and quite frankly, no one really does) therefore there should be no double standard in which an adherent to a more exotic none-Christian religion puts their religion in front of their country of residence. Get what I mean? Sure, if you’re a certain ethniticy or nationality, you can put that in front of American (I.E. Iranian American or British American) but why put your religion in front of it? It’s silly. AMERICAN.

 

[spn82756]

Are you saying that Muslims are terrorists? You are a very sick and twisted person. May Allah guide you.

So a couple of Muslims blow something up… that makes it fair to group us all together as terrorists? Christian’s kill people. Catholics have bombed places. But we don’t go around claiming all of you are terrorists!

A couple of Muslims??? HUH???

Not all Muslims are terrorists…but few Muslims will stand for what is right. So there could potentially be 3 camps of Muslims. Terrorists…cowards who don’t stand for what’s right…and the 3rd being the very very very few that we hear about condemning the terrorists.

 

[schaick]

aina.org/news/20100113130010.htm

Egypt (AINA) – Egyptian State Security has intensified its intimidation of the Coptic Church and Christians in Nag Hammadi, and neighboring Bahgoura, by carrying out random arrests of Christian youth. The campaign against Christians started on Friday January 7, 2010 and is continuing; multiple members of families have been arrested without warrants. Most arrests are being carried at dawn. More than one hundred Christian youth have been arrested without charge.

Arrests of Copts after every sedition is the usual scenario as a pressure card in the hands of State Security to force the church and Copts to accept “reconciliation”, in which Coptic victims give up all criminal and civil charges against the perpetrators. Because of the reaction in Egypt and worldwide to the shootings and the role of the State Security, Bishop Kyrollos was asked issue statements downplaying the negligence of State Security. It is believed the arrests of the Coptic youth is a pressure tactic to force him to recant his accusations.

Anwar Samuel, a head teacher from Nag Hammadi, told Freecopts that State Security came to their home at four o’clock in the morning, looking for his nephew Mohareb, who happened to be in Kuwait. “Instead they arrested my three other nephews, Fadi, Tanios and Wael Milad Samuel, and took them away in their pajamas.” He said they have been subjected to electric shocks.

Coptic News Bulletin contacted several families who confirmed that males as young as 16 were taken away by the police. In an aired interviews, affected families told how the Police tricked their sons into going with them, by telling them that Bishop Kyrollos wanted them to do so for their safety.

Habib Tanios was arrested on charges of firing on people who burnt his home in Bahgoura, although he has no rifle.

Families of the arrested Copts congregated all day near police station waiting for news

According to sources close to Freecopts, strict state security instructions were issued to the clergy in the parish of Nag Hamadi, to suppress any move by the Copts affected by the events and the families of those killed, to demonstrate or protest, accompanied by explicit threats that police will be using live ammunition.

After the Nag Hammadi shooting on January 6, in which 8 Copts were killed and 15 injured as they came out of Coptic Christmas Eve mass (AINA 1-7-2010, 1-10-2010). Bishop Kyrollos of Nag Hammadi Diocese criticized the lack of police protection of the church, which is usual during such events. He held State Security responsible especially that he had received death threats, and was the intended target of the shootings.

Conflict between State Security and Bishop Kyrollos arose due to his insistence on compensation for the Copts of Farshout who lost property and businesses caused by Muslim mob violence against them end November 2009 (AINA 11-22-2009, 11-23-2009, 11-29-2009). None of the state officials attended the celebrations at Church which many took as a sign of their knowledge of the forthcoming shootings.

 

[spn82756]

Are you saying that Muslims are terrorists? You are a very sick and twisted person. May Allah guide you.

So a couple of Muslims blow something up… that makes it fair to group us all together as terrorists? Christian’s kill people. Catholics have bombed places. But we don’t go around claiming all of you are terrorists!

***YES. Not only terrorists…but do not recognize the rule of law!

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Egypt (AINA) – Egyptian State Security has intensified its intimidation of the Coptic Church and Christians in Nag Hammadi, and neighboring Bahgoura, by carrying out random arrests of Christian youth. The campaign against Christians started on Friday January 7, 2010 and is continuing; multiple members of families have been arrested without warrants. Most arrests are being carried at dawn. More than one hundred Christian youth have been arrested without charge.

Arrests of Copts after every sedition is the usual scenario as a pressure card in the hands of State Security to force the church and Copts to accept “reconciliation”, in which Coptic victims give up all criminal and civil charges against the perpetrators. Because of the reaction in Egypt and worldwide to the shootings and the role of the State Security, Bishop Kyrollos was asked issue statements downplaying the negligence of State Security. It is believed the arrests of the Coptic youth is a pressure tactic to force him to recant his accusations.

Anwar Samuel, a head teacher from Nag Hammadi, told Freecopts that State Security came to their home at four o’clock in the morning, looking for his nephew Mohareb, who happened to be in Kuwait. “Instead they arrested my three other nephews, Fadi, Tanios and Wael Milad Samuel, and took them away in their pajamas.” He said they have been subjected to electric shocks.

Coptic News Bulletin contacted several families who confirmed that males as young as 16 were taken away by the police. In an aired interviews, affected families told how the Police tricked their sons into going with them, by telling them that Bishop Kyrollos wanted them to do so for their safety.

Habib Tanios was arrested on charges of firing on people who burnt his home in Bahgoura, although he has no rifle.

Families of the arrested Copts congregated all day near police station waiting for news

According to sources close to Freecopts, strict state security instructions were issued to the clergy in the parish of Nag Hamadi, to suppress any move by the Copts affected by the events and the families of those killed, to demonstrate or protest, accompanied by explicit threats that police will be using live ammunition.

After the Nag Hammadi shooting on January 6, in which 8 Copts were killed and 15 injured as they came out of Coptic Christmas Eve mass (AINA 1-7-2010, 1-10-2010). Bishop Kyrollos of Nag Hammadi Diocese criticized the lack of police protection of the church, which is usual during such events. He held State Security responsible especially that he had received death threats, and was the intended target of the shootings.

Conflict between State Security and Bishop Kyrollos arose due to his insistence on compensation for the Copts of Farshout who lost property and businesses caused by Muslim mob violence against them end November 2009 (AINA 11-22-2009, 11-23-2009, 11-29-2009). None of the state officials attended the celebrations at Church which many took as a sign of their knowledge of the forthcoming shootings.

 

[spn82756]

Are you saying that Muslims are terrorists? You are a very sick and twisted person. May Allah guide you.

So a couple of Muslims blow something up… that makes it fair to group us all together as terrorists? Christian’s kill people. Catholics have bombed places. But we don’t go around claiming all of you are terrorists!

Yes we are sick. Sick with love for the Christ! Not the pagan moon god allah