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Mike2010
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Sitting here and arguing about whose history is more violent doesn’t do anything for anyone. It is a waste of time, and what we should be discussing is the doctrinal differences, and beliefs, of the different religions.Episodic as opposed to doctrinal? So the inquisition, Crusades, subjugation of Eastern Europe, etc. wasn’t doctrinal? Even though the Papacy supported it and so did virtually the entire Catholic clergy?
Only as described by the Quran and Sunnah and only in an Islamic state which truly follows all aspects of the Shariah.
Not if you truly understood what the Shariah is. Asking non-Muslims to pay a small token tax in exchange for exemption from conscription is hardly ‘forced’ conversion.
Need I remind you that Christian Mideasterners were subjected to a MUCH LOWER tax during the Muslim rule then they were during Orthodox Byzantine rule?
It’s almost as if you’re explaining the conversion of an entire Christian region and the birthplace of Christianity on the basis of a small tax. Too scared to consider the truth?
Wasn’t Jesus the one who (according to your NT) claimed that you will know a tree by its fruits?
Well, if he was telling the truth, then I guess your ‘it was never doctrinal’ argument doesn’t work.
Because if the followers (fruit) of Christianity have committed more violence and more forced conversions than basically the rest of the world’s religions combined, that makes me feel quite scared of the tree.
So claiming it wasn’t doctrine won’t help you here.
Speaking of taking things out of context, Ali, you are just as guilty as anyone you accused earlier of doing so. Just because somebody is a follower of Christianity doesn’t mean that is the “fruit” that Christ is talking about. He is talking about the fruits of the Holy Spirit - that somebody who is truly united w/ Christ and has the Holy Spirit dwelling in their soul, and follows His way will bear good fruits. Nobody lives perfectly (like Christ was perfect, w/out sin), and their are followers of Christianity who don’t always bear good fruits. That doesn’t mean we settle for “we aren’t perfect”, but as Christians we should always strive to live how Jesus did - only then will we truly bear the fruits of the Holy Spirit that Christ is talking about.
Incidents like this happen in India ALL the time. It’s called ethnic identification. Muslims in India see themselves as one ethnic group. As do the Hindus. And the Jains. And the Christians. And so and so forth.
When religious violence happens in India, everyone knows that ‘religious’ violence is basically ethnic violence.
Anyone who’s read the Quran or the Prophet’s life will know that the actions you mentioned are no way justified by Islam.