Is Islam responsible for 9/11?

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Of course it was, just like it was also responsible for the Troubles in Ireland, Stalin’s purges, the Holocaust, the Killing Fields of Cambodia and the Oklahoma City bombings.

Fanatics who hate those who are different to them have used plenty of different stripes.of religion as well as many different secular political ideologies as pretexts to fuel their hatred. And plenty more have done mass murder without even needing such flimsy excuses.
 
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We fought the Crusades for a reason, and should have the humility and courage to do so again if need be
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Yes, so that European princes could have Levantine lordships, and you should absolutely not do that again.
 
This, I believe, is the First Crusade. (My memory of the Crusades is a bit foggy as it’s been a long time since I’ve revisited that er, illustrious era.)

Don’t forget about the Crusader sack of Constantinople (who, weirdly enough, weren’t Muslims), which irreparably weakened the Byzantine Empire and ultimately lead to its conquest by the Muslim Ottomans.
 
Islam has always been a religion of the sword, imo. Koran has open ended calls for Jihad against infidels. Christian principles like turning the other cheek is totally foreign to them.

Is Islam responsible for 9-11? Good question. It seems some are extremists and some are not. Some are really good people. All i can say with certainty is that Muslims are the only ones strapping bombs to themselves for their god. They are the only ones chopping off heads. They seem to be the only faith left out there that still treat women like cattle and get away with it.

Ye shall know them by their fruit, says Jesus. And the fruit that I have seen from Islam has often been bad. And that includes silence of peaceful Muslims when the extremist Muslims are planning and plotting to kill Americans.

I do get that America is sorta imperialistic and we infuriate groups and people to hate us with our presence all over the world. But when I see GWB attacking Iraq unjustly, IMO, I do not blame Christianity because that is not what Christ taught. GWB was man not following the tenets of the faith, imo.
 
for those who want to give Islam a pass, I would like to know if they have read the Koran and the Hadith? Have you read interpretations?

the goal is for one world subject to Allah by any means.
 
Individual Muslims are responsible, not Islam as a whole. Why I am sure this will be a controversial statement is beyond me. One could say that Islam is a contributing factor, but not a cause. Muslims that happened to be terrorists are responsible.
 
I’ve been rushing through our Social Studies chapter on Mohammed, the Moslem conquests, etc. as fast as possible. Monday I’ll wrap it up and remind students what the Koran “teaches” about Jesus Christ. I’ll be sure to mention Aisha, too. Students can draw their own conclusions about that.
 
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One of the most unfortunate passages in the Catechism, since a book that declares that Jesus Christ is a mere mortal prophet blasphemes the Second Person of the Trinity.
 
Worry all you want. Why would that matter to me?
 
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I’m responsible for evangelizing my students in the truth of Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour.

I teach them to respect the religious rights of others. I don’t teach syncretism or universalism. They learn that the only path to salvation is through Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity.

I have the same kids for several courses. Educating them is a mighty work for the Lord, an Opus Dei.
 
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Extremists are common to most religions including Islam as well as Christianity and Judaism. Such extremists do indeed distort the moral values of their own religion.
 
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If you mean the Qur’an, is it not also true that the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament can and have been misinterpreted as well by some and used by both insiders and outsiders to the particular religion as a social and political justification for committing immoral acts?
 
Hey @SalamKhan, good to see you again.

It’s my understanding (from my time living in Saudi Arabia) that Ismaili Islam is considered by mainstream Sunnis and Shias to be less than orthodox.

In truth some sects of Islam can certainly be extremistic and violent (a phenomenon that isn’t unique to Islam). Unfortunately these sects arise from groups that seem to have greater claims to Islamic orthodoxy than others.

Please do not misconstrue my post as suggesting that you are an unorthodox Muslim, but as a Christian it is my understanding ( an understanding reinforced by Muslim friends) that Sunni and Shia Islam are what may be considered “Orthodox Islam”.
 
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It’s my understanding (from my time living in Saudi Arabia) that Ismaili Islam is considered by mainstream Sunnis and Shias to be less than orthodox.
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That’s true, mainstream Sunnis & Shiahs do consider Ismailis to be heterodox. Although, if the Amman Message is anything to go by, they’re becoming more open to Ismailis. I’m not too concerned with intra-religious orthodoxy to be honest.
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Please do not misconstrue my post as suggesting that you are an unorthodox Muslim, but as a Christian it is my understanding ( an understanding reinforced by Muslim friends) that Sunni and Shia Islam are what may be considered “Orthodox Islam”.
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I’m not Ismaili, I’m Sunni.
 
I’ve already told the students what there is in common. Done with that part.
I’ll teach Social Studies in the same light as I teach English Language Arts and Religion: The light of the one true faith, one true path, one Saviour: Jesus Christ.

I’ll make sure my Social Studies students understand the tremendous importance of the great Christian victories at Tours…at Lepanto…at Vienna.
Oh, yeah!
 
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Only a person who is utterly ignorant (or deceptive) of the Koranic doctrine of abbrogation can say the Koran is cherry picked to support war and repression by Jihadists in the same way the KKK selectively quotes the Bible. If one does not know of or acknowledges Koranic abbrogation then one’s interpretations will be flawed to greater or lesser degrees.

Likewise, if one is ignorant or deceptive on how the aHaddith are ranked in authenticity and authority, as well as not considering how “the consensus of scholars” (Muslim jurists) FIXES an interpretation of either Koran or Haddith, then one’s interpretation will be fatally flawed.
 
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