Is it a sin for protestants to skip church on Sundays and why do they feel it is okay.

[Publisher]

Which is why we have Mass every day of the week, instead of only on Sundays.

But Sunday is still His day, and it is very fitting to meet together in His name on Sundays.

It is fittinig…but not necessary…Some Friends meet for worship on 5th Day…or 2nd Day…some even on 7th Day…nothing is sacred or holy about 1st Day that is not sacred or holy about the other 6 days. Each day is an opportunity to commune and recognize the Presence in our midst.

 

[jmcrae]

It is fittinig…but not necessary…Some Friends meet for worship on 5th Day…or 2nd Day…some even on 7th Day…nothing is sacred or holy about 1st Day that is not sacred or holy about the other 6 days. Each day is an opportunity to commune and recognize the Presence in our midst.

Actually, no - Sunday is the day of commemoration of the Resurrection. This is what makes it a more important day than other days - and also what makes it a more important day than the day upon which God rested from all His labours, since God has again come into the world, and done a new and even greater thing.

 

[soflochristmas]

Here is the original quote:

It is just condescending nonsense.

soflochristmas, John, and others like them are why nearly every day that I come to this site, my respect for the Catholic church and Catholics in general diminishes.

But you said it was a lie. Is the original quote both a lie and condescending? And why don’t you start building respect by answering a direct question with a direct answer.

Can I not take any sin and find a protestant church that would not accept it as a sin?

 

[jmcrae]

Can I not take any sin and find a protestant church that would not accept it as a sin?

I can’t think of any Protestant churches that think direct murder of a healthy adult human being is okay.

There are a great many that see nothing wrong with abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia, however.

 

[guanophore]

OK only those folks are told they can’t come forth and receive Christ.

People in a state of mortal sin have already done something so serious to push Christ out of their lives that they have condemned themselves to eternal damnation. It is the duty of the church to call them to repentance, not to pretend what happened does not matter. If a Catholic rejects the teachings of the church, then receiving the Eucharist would be committing a lie with their body.

Of course, people do come forward and commit sacrilege every week anyway - the church cannot prevent this, only educate and warn. If a person is determined to commit sin, then ice it with sacrilege, then the person will do so.

Kathleen, the main thing I tell ppl is if they adhere to the Christian faith then know it is Christ our Savior Whom is greater than any differences. He breaks down walls. And we are all united in Him.

We are united in baptism, but we are separated because some have departed from the One Faith that was committed to the church by the Apostles. Unity results from adherance to the Truth. When there is no agreement on Truth, then there is not unity.

Christ made it simple.  Believe in Him.  Love.  If we can, try to serve the poor, the hungry, the homeless, the sick.  Be peacemakers.

Yes, but all of these activities result from being in unity with Him, clinging to the Vine. When we are divided from one another, our ability to serve and give the world the witness of love is diminished.

Christ was not about rules such as it’s a mortal sin if your particular bishop says to attend Mass on a Thurs Nov 1 and you don’t.

Such statements indicate that you do not know the Christ of the Scriptures. He was perfectly obedient to the Covenant into which He was born. He taught about mortal and venial sins, and how to avoid them, and how to be forgiven of them. he commanded his disciples to follow all that their rulers had to say, because they sat upon the seat of Moses.

It seems that your authority problem has blinded you against the full message of the gospel.

Or He didn’t say you can’t receive Me even if you’re called unless first you do x, y, and z. At the most He said if you discern my Sacrifice for you on the cross and believe in Me, then receive. God bless and peace.

If you think that Paul just made that up, and that it did not come from Christ, you are mistaken. Jesus said if we don’t follow His commandments, it means we don’t love Him. Why would you expect to join Him in a love feast after spurning HIs will?

You have a Protestant Theology about the Eucharist, Matt. have you considered revising your affiliation above to “protesting but nominal Catholic” or something like that more suitable?

 

[KathleenGee]

The devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus was written by Fr Jean Croiset, who was the spiritual director of St. Mary Margaret Alacoque.

There is a passage in his book, of which I gave away…of speaking of the Eucharist…the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ…

When we go to Mass on Sunday, we are following the ancient practices and identity of ancient Christians who risked their lives to practice their faith. They met in secret for a very long time.

We believe in God the creator, the one true God Who delivered the Jews from slavery in Egypt, Who led them through the desert as a Pillar of Fire, Who parted the Red Sea, Who fed them manna from heaven…Who gave us His Son…Father, Son and Holy Spirit…Who performed miracles and preached and taught the multitudes, and was put on the Cross and died a terrible death for our salvation…this is the same God Who resides in the Eucharist…the same God we worship on Sunday.

This is the same God that requires of us through His Church to give Him our undivided time for 45 minutes to one hour a week. To not give God His due and pursue - in comparison to Him - a simple distraction is indeed a grave sin.

 

[guanophore]

Wouldn’t the Church be guilty of a greater sin if it in fact let people who didn’t believe in the real presence in the Eucharist come forward and receive Holy Communion? Especially in light of 1 Cor 11:27

"Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord

In fact, it appears this is exactly what CMatt is doing.

 

[guanophore]

The Catholic Church was not established by Yeshua (Jesus). The word, “catholic” is a Latin word that simply means, universal.

Welcome to CAF Ron. Keep studying, and you will come to the knowledge of the Truth.

“Catholic” is not a Latin term, but Greek, and it was used in the NT to describe the Church founded upon Peter by Christ that was the same in doctrine all over the world. It was in regular use for the One Church by the second century, just shortly after all the books of the NT were finished.

This was only a very short time before today’s Catholic Church tries to say that Jesus did and thus ended the need to keep the seventh day Sabbath (Shabbat).

You have been misinformed, Ron. The CC believes that the Sabbath rest has been fulfilled in the person of Christ, and that we enter into Sabbath rest when we rest our lives in Him. We observe the Lord’s day (the eigth day) because that is the day he rose from the dead.

Jesus created no new religion …

He founded a Church, and that Church keeps the Lord’s Day holy.

 

[guanophore]

I can’t think of any Protestant churches that think direct murder of a healthy adult human being is okay.

There are a great many that see nothing wrong with abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia, however.

Oh but there are! some support the death penalty. Although they dont’ see those they intend to put to death as “healthy” - at least not morally.

 

[excubitor]

It is fittinig…but not necessary…Some Friends meet for worship on 5th Day…or 2nd Day…some even on 7th Day…nothing is sacred or holy about 1st Day that is not sacred or holy about the other 6 days. Each day is an opportunity to commune and recognize the Presence in our midst.

I see that you are not Catholic which explains how you could make such an erroneus claim. This is quite incorrect.I don’t know what Quakers believe or what you mean by “The Presence” but Catholics believe that Sunday is the Christian Sabbath that must be kept holy as a day we rest from our labours and devote ourselves to the worship of the Lord.

Here are some excerpts from the catechism

2168 The third commandment of the Decalogue recalls the holiness of the sabbath: “The seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the LORD.”
2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:107

2177 The Sunday celebration of the Lord’s Day and his Eucharist is at the heart of the Church’s life. "Sunday is the day on which the paschal mystery is celebrated in light of the apostolic tradition and is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church."110

The Christian church has always upheld the Ten Commandments and have kept the 3rd Commandment on the first day of the week since the beginning of Christianity.

 

[csmatyi]

Ha ha hee hee. It’s fun watching these Romanists here pondering whether it’s a sin to skip Sunday service, Protestant or not (I’m Protestant). They don’t even know their 10 commandments!

 

[soflochristmas]

Oh but there are! some support the death penalty. Although they dont’ see those they intend to put to death as “healthy” - at least not morally.

Excellent…excellent retort. Case closed.

 

[NoAvailableName]

soflochristmas,

I made my post so that reasonable Catholics would be encouraged to think twice before posting inflammatory material against Protestants. Hopefully, I have accomplished this. I would think that most Catholics here can understand that posting such material is not helpful. I did not post the comment to get drawn into an argument with someone about whether or not the only sin all Protestant churches agree on is “treating Mary, Jesus’ mom in a nice way”.

nothing appears to be a sin in the protestant churchs cept maybe treating Mary ,Jesus’ mom in a nice way etc etc.

If you want to continue defending the above quote, be my guest, but you’ll have to find someone else willing to “debate” you.

Maybe John will be kind enough to come back and retract his statement.

 

[guanophore]

Ha ha hee hee. It’s fun watching these Romanists here pondering whether it’s a sin to skip Sunday service, Protestant or not (I’m Protestant). They don’t even know their 10 commandments!

Welcome to the thread, csmatyi.

A couple thoughts for you. One, the question of the thread is directed toward protestants. I notice that you did not respond to the thread topic. Why is that?

Also, referring to your Catholic brothers and sisters as “Romanist” is inaccurate, as some of us are not of the Roman or more properly the Latin Rite. It is also considered insulting,a nd against the forum rules.

And finally, it is an error to assume that Catholics here do not know the 10 commandments. Such a statement seems condescending, and is not a productive approach to discussion.

 

[csmatyi]

Welcome to the thread, csmatyi.

A couple thoughts for you. One, the question of the thread is directed toward protestants. I notice that you did not respond to the thread topic. Why is that?

Also, referring to your Catholic brothers and sisters as “Romanist” is inaccurate, as some of us are not of the Roman or more properly the Latin Rite. It is also considered insulting,a nd against the forum rules.

And finally, it is an error to assume that Catholics here do not know the 10 commandments. Such a statement seems condescending, and is not a productive approach to discussion.

Hey guano,
Don’t get mad, get glad. I implied the response: The ten commandments say that you must keep the Sabbath, the day of rest. Therefore if you omit doing this, then you break the commandments, therefore it is a sin. As to “Romanist”, my apologies if you find it rude, but is is also inaccurate to call you Catholic, because this implies that only your bunch are true Christians, so this is not true. Therefore I will call you “nonamers”.

csmatyi

 

[RonTheNewJew]

“completely lying”? who has done that? The quote you mentioned in your post is, “…nothing appears to be a sin in the protestant churchs…”.

So I ask, is there a single sin/bad/immoral behavior, that you can’t find some “protestant church” which says it is not a sin? John Pascendi didn’t say “nothing appears to be a sin in a protestant church”…of course some things are a sin. But the point being…if you don’t like the list of sins in your protestant church…simply start a new one.

I admit, I am aghast at this idea that Protestants allow for sin, while implying that Catholics do not. Protestant theology is clear that “sin is the transgression of the law.” (God’s Law, that is). But they, just like Catholics, sin in any case. Why say that Protestants allow sin while, and please forgive this Jew for bringing this up, the Catholic Church’s leaders have been aware of, but covered up by moving pedophile priests to other dioceses, etc., in an effort to not allow their parishioners an awareness of the sexual debauchery of boys and youth.

That problem has little to do with which church allows for sin, but much to do with priests not allowed to marry, which does not follow the priesthood requirements of the ancient Hebrew priesthood because the earthly priesthood at that time was allowed to marry, and they did. There is no earthly priesthood, based on the received texts of sacred scripture. Jesus now carries His redemptive work in the heavenly sanctuary. The individual is now guided by the Holy Spirit of God, which was sent by the Messiah when He ascended to heaven to begin His priestly work there, preparatory to His second coming which He promised.

 

[Publisher]

Actually, no - Sunday is the day of commemoration of the Resurrection. This is what makes it a more important day than other days - and also what makes it a more important day than the day upon which God rested from all His labours, since God has again come into the world, and done a new and even greater thing.

I believe the writer of Colosians makes reference to not necessarily esteem one day above the others as they are fulfilled in Christ and are but shadows. The First Day of the New Creation is still occuring TODAY. The early Christians did meet on the first day of the week…but it was not a “sabbath”…but a day of commeroration…not more holy or special than the other six. God did not “rest from all His labours” on the first day of the week…but on the seventh day of the week. The resurrection IS the FIRST DAY of the New Creation…we still abide on that First Day…it has not ended.

 

[KathleenGee]

The Catholic Church was founded by Christ on Peter. That is because Jesus is in heaven, and so His church must be run by sinful mortals.

Otherwise, what is the use of faith?

Christ told Peter that what is bound on earth is bound in heaven. We are bound…and this is accepted in heaven…to honor Resurrection Sunday.

Not Christmas or Easter, – Resurrection Sunday – every Sunday – is the greatest feast day in the Catholic Church. This is the teaching of our Church and you can find this out reading the Council Documents on the Sacred Liturgy. Our faith is centered on Christ and through Him we are connected in a mystical way to the Jewish people and salvation history.

Our Church through the Holy Spirit is constantly calling us to become better, draw closer and more deeply to Christ to greater union in Him. We cannot remain stagnant or lukewarm The Church has bound us to honor the one True God Who lived, died and resurrected for us, and gave us new life in His sacraments.

Jesus Christ remains with us in our tabernacles throughout the world, He nurtures us with Himself, His very Body and Blood and to excuse people from their conviction and confirmation to follow Jesus Christ, to spurn Him is indeed sin, and a denial of what they profess. They do not mean what they say.

The beliefs and practices of Protestant churches are not binding as Catholics are. And so we must leave them in God’s hands and His mercy. Many people cannot get past the image they have of the Catholic Church. I do not know – or does any person here – knows God’s position with Protestants who believe in Christ, follow the Holy Spirit, reflect and live out the Word of God and witness for Him, and likewise would lay down their life for Him…for not attending a weekly church service.

We are all equal before God, but no one can judge a person or a class of people when they are genuinely sincere…but we must pray for them and do our best for them.

 

[jmcrae]

Oh but there are! some support the death penalty. Although they dont’ see those they intend to put to death as “healthy” - at least not morally.

Good point - I hadn’t thought of that.

 

[jmcrae]

I admit, I am aghast at this idea that Protestants allow for sin, while implying that Catholics do not. Protestant theology is clear that “sin is the transgression of the law.” (God’s Law, that is).

Protestants don’t agree among themselves what that Law is, however - and when the discrepancies are pointed out, they say, “It is a non-essential. We agree on the essentials.”

But they, just like Catholics, sin in any case. Why say that Protestants allow sin while, and please forgive this Jew for bringing this up, the Catholic Church’s leaders have been aware of, but covered up by moving pedophile priests to other dioceses, etc., in an effort to not allow their parishioners an awareness of the sexual debauchery of boys and youth.

Those men have been put in jail or else are dead, now.

That problem has little to do with which church allows for sin, but much to do with priests not allowed to marry,

Actually, the vast majority of child molesters and molesters of teenagers are married men. Their lust for children is not slaked in the marriage bed.