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Did I say philosophy didn’t constitute work? I’'ve studied some, though not deeply, myself, so I know it is indeed work. And it’s noble work. And enjoyable, certainly.YOU WROTE: “Feeling the presence of God, for Christians, means we then transmit that presence to our fellow man via the corporal and spiritual works of mercy or in other concrete ways.
No it doesn’t. Not in every circumstance. You are wrong.
Philosophy is an example of something practiced purely for its own sake. Knowledge for the sake of knowledge. I have a hard time seeing how philosophy could EVER be transmitted “to our fellow man via the corporal and spiritual works of mercy or in other concrete ways.” This is one of the primary arguments that utilitarians often use to classify philosophy as “useless” and a “waste of time.” It doesn’t build houses for the poor. It doesn’t help the economy. It doesn’t build road, etc. It serves no utilitarian purpose to speak of. But it is still a valuable field for its own intrinsic worth, and I find that being a philosopher is an important end in and of itself, and for no other reason.
As a philosopher, I find your implication very offensive that leisure activities like philosophy are somehow “worthless,” because they do not “transmit that presence (of God) to our fellow man via the corporal and spiritual works of mercy or in other concrete ways.” Are you seriously trying to tell me that my chosen field is worthless just because it doesn’t do anything “concrete?” Ridiculous.
There is more to life than utilitarian concrete living. Non-philosophers generally do not register this. Every single one of your objections has been exhaustively covered in “Leisure, The Basis Of Culture” in minute detail. It is quite clear to me that you have not read the book at all, and still do not understand what I am talking about.
Once again, here is a link to the FULL TEXT of the book. I suggest you read it before addressing this issue again.
scribd.com/doc/28873477/L…sis-of-Culture
Christ was a brilliant philosopher, as were Sts Paul, Augustine, Aquinas, and too many others to mention. None of these, however, practiced philosophy in a vacuum or in isolation, or indeed, merely by sitting on beaches or anywhere else by themselves thinking deep thoughts.
The greats, and even the dabblers such as myself, write about their ideas, they speak about them, they communicate - to use my terminology they TRANSMIT what they know and think to others. And remember ‘instructing the ignorant’, which is surely the aim of philosophy, is actually one of the seven spiritual works of mercy, which are just as important as the corporal ones we are all familiar with from the Gospels.
You say they don’t transmit the presence of God in their discourse (and true philosophy is always a discourse - a discussion among thinkers, not just a monologue)? Put it this way - both Christian and non-Christian philosopher alike do what they do not just out of enjoyment. Indeed some don’t enjoy it much at all!
Philosophy is self-defined as a search for truth. God being Truth, as Christ says, they are really on a search for Him. Some explicitly, others implicitly but nonetheless truly. And transmitting truth to others is in a very real sense transmitting God to others.