Is it a sin or sinful to smoke marijuana?

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jkiernan56 said:
I would just like to throw this question out there to see what people have to say on the matter.

For those who want to respond by saying that it is sinful because it is illegal (in most places in the US) and therefor breaking the law makes it sinful, please don’t go there. It does not hold water with me that breaking the law is always a sinful act.

You and I know that the law is not always right in this country - taking for example legalizion of abortion. Just because something is legal in this country does not mean it is morally right. Taking the converse, just because the law says something is illegal today (in most States) does make it sinful in my opinion.

Remember that alcohol also used to be illegal in this country and then later became legal. It wasn’t the change in the law that makes the use of something sinful or not sinful.

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no, its about like alcohol, moderation is the difference between being sinful and not.

that said its also has downsides, just like alcohol.

so no, you can enjoy the things that were provided for us, but remember that disordered use is the sin
 
warpspeedpetey said:
so no, you can enjoy the things that were provided for us, but remember that disordered use is the sin
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agreeable but now the word disordered needs to be defined:D
IMO it would be the overwhelming desire for the subject:ie i need a joint now vs a joint would nice but i don’t really need it right now.
 
Meanwhile, the Church definately teaches masturbation is sinful…mortally so…:rolleyes:
 
ForwardProgress said:
Meanwhile, the Church definately teaches masturbation is sinful…mortally so…:rolleyes:
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In order for something to be a *mortal *sin, there must be full consent of the will. I doubt that most people who honestly desire not to do it but do it anyway have full consent of the will. Also, the Catechism states that “force of habit” further diminishes culpability. Not to excuse it, but in many cases, I think it is a venial sin.

However, it’s still a habit that one must put all one’s energy to avoid.

What’s your point, anyway, Forwardprogress? This has nothing to do with the o-pee.
 
jkarp said:
They declared religion illegal in Soviet Russia, does that make religion sinful?
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You’re comparing pot to Christianity? 😃
Besides, we have a moral duty to obey the law unless the law commands us to sin.
It’s definitely not a sin to refrain from smoking marijuana.
 
jkiernan56 said:
Good point JKARP 👍

I did a little research on Wikipedia and found out that cannabis was an ingredient of holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts.

" … cannabis was an ingredient of holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts. The herb of interest is most commonly known as kanah-bosem (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם; the singular form of which would be kanah-bos[14]) which is mentioned several times in the Old Testament as a bartering material, incense, and an ingredient in holy anointing oil used by the high priest of the temple.

The Septuagint (300AD) translates kanah-bosem as calamus, and this translation has been propagated unchanged to most later translations of the Torah (1500BC+). However, Polish anthropologist Sula Benet published etymological arguments that the Aramaic word for hemp can be read as kannabos and appears to be a cognate to the modern word ‘cannabis’,[15] with the root kan meaning reed or hemp and bosm meaning fragrant. Both cannabis and calamus are fragrant, reedlike plants containing psychotropic compounds. While Benet’s conclusion regarding the psychoactive use of cannabis is not universally accepted among Jewish scholars, there is general agreement that cannabis is used in talmudic sources to refer to hemp fibers, as hemp was a vital commodity before linen replaced it."
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(Reads through)
(Shrugs)
Even if true, so what? “Cannabis was used as an ingredient in oil for annointing. So it’s okay to use it to get stoned.” 😃 … I don’t think so.
 
jkiernan56 said:
Ron Conte;4517533:
Use of drugs to get high is clearly not a cooperation with grace.

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Ron, do you know that you can get “high” drinking alcohol?
You and Nino should avoid drinking any alcoholic beverage or anything that contains alcohol in it (ie - cold medicine etc …). Again I am amazed at the lack of common sense. 🤷

I will respond to some of your other comments in a later post.
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False comparison. It is possible to use alcohol in moderation and not get drunk or even tipsy. I have not heard that one can use marijuana without getting high. In fact with pot getting high is the point.
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Reepicheep said:
jkiernan56;4517571:
False comparison. It is possible to use alcohol in moderation and not get drunk or even tipsy. I have not heard that one can use marijuana without getting high. In fact with pot getting high is the point.
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So,…for a pothead the sin would be smoking shwag?
🍿:hey_bud: :rotfl:
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That_one_guy said:
Reepicheep;4528547:
So,…for a pothead the sin would be smoking shwag?
🍿:hey_bud: :rotfl:
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That One Guy: I noticed the quote in your latest post quoted me.
You have the wrong person in that quote.

This is NOT me who said this ------> “False comparison. It is possible to use alcohol in moderation and not get drunk or even tipsy. I have not heard that one can use marijuana without getting high. In fact with pot getting high is the point.”

The person who said this is REEPICHEEP (post #49).
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Reepicheep said:
False comparison. It is possible to use alcohol in moderation and not get drunk or even tipsy. I have not heard that one can use marijuana without getting high. In fact with pot getting high is the point.
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alcohol does indeed affect a person’s abilities with just one drink,…1 drink=1 oz of alcohol…
i quoted the same post and it came out the same way…
 
fbl9 said:
Reepicheep;4528547:
alcohol does indeed affect a person’s abilities with just one drink,…1 drink=1 oz of alcohol
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Thanks for changing that for me. I agree that alcohol DOES affect a person’s ability with one drink. Did Jesus sin when he made the water out of wine? Common sense anyone?
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jkiernan56 said:
That one guy;4528563:
That One Guy: I noticed the quote in your latest post quoted me.
You have the wrong person in that quote.

This is NOT me who said this ------> “False comparison. It is possible to use alcohol in moderation and not get drunk or even tipsy. I have not heard that one can use marijuana without getting high. In fact with pot getting high is the point.”

The person who said this is REEPICHEEP (post #49).
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oops.I don’t know how that happened…maybe the computer was stoned,…?
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Reepicheep said:
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Good point JKARP
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Is there something “going on” with these new-ish forum members with “j” prefixes in their usernames?

I just noticed that I have three such members on my ignore list.

Any comments on this “oddity”?

:shamrock2:
 
CatsAndDogs said:
Is there something “going on” with these new-ish forum members with “j” prefixes in their usernames?

I just noticed that I have three such members on my ignore list.

Any comments on this “oddity”?

:shamrock2:
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the J stands for joint,man.😛
 
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