Is it America's job to "run the world"?

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The EU aren’t even elected. How is that good? That practically IS dictatorship. Besides, one of their biggest mouthpieces is Jean Claude Juncker. A beneficiary and heir of Nazis. Both directly and through marriage. I wouldn’t trust him with a ten foot pole.
 
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Of course it’s not dictatorship. It’s a group of countries come together to pool some of their resources in the common good. Its organs are either directly elected or appointed by the member countries. Absolutely nothing whatsoever like a dictatorship.

Take a look at Francoist Spain or the Colonels’ Greece or Salazar’s Portugal, or the whole of Eastern Europe under Communist subjugation. That’s the world the EU has ushered into democracy.
 
Yeah, I disagree. When the commission is run by no one in member countries knows or elected, it’s certainly not democracy. Or even a republican ideal. It’s got more in common with the “evil Soviets” and polituburo that people only seem to see in Russia.
 
I fear that is nonsense. It is possible to point out the ways EU structures can be made more responsive or more understood by the citizenry, and there is much to be done in that field. But to suggest that the Commission — appointed by the democratic governments of the member countries — is like the politburo of the Soviet Union is just crazy.
 
I’m not talking about just response. That’s still a top-down approach. Just because they might have “good responses” doesn’t make it any better.

It’s not ridiculous to compare them. It’s an elite class of ruling officials who weren’t even elected. They’re the same thing, when you remove all the warm fuzzy EU commercials.

edit: No different than feudalism too, when you get down to it. Seems like Europe just can’t get off of this particular model, no matter what it calls itself.
 
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You have a strangely DailyMailish view of the world. How the appointment of a Commission by democratically elected governments, and with powers retained by those governments and by the directly democratically elected European Parliament, a Commission restrained by the founding treaties agreed by those governments, and restrained by the rule of law, can be compared to the brutal dictatorship of the Soviet Union is something beyond logic or sense. I think our discussion is going nowhere. Good day to you and best wishes.
 
I don’t even read the Daily Mail.

I’m a Texan.

That should answer it better for you. 😃
 
I run across the Daily Mail sometimes on internet searches, but yeah… that’s not me.

But I do have an individualistic/libertarian streak, which is why I mentioned Texas. Perhaps it’s the wide open spaces 😉 I don’t find it easy to trust a system like the EU.
 
And you know that the president of the United States is not democratically elected, but appointed by a college. Just like Soviet Russia, isn’t it?
 
Of course. It’s a Republic. Which is what I criticized the EU of not even being. Neither democratic or republic.

That’s nothing like Russia. That’s just silly.
 
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You’re not making sense. That’s my line.

Do you even know what the delegates and electoral votes are? Citizens have (name removed by moderator)ut on all of this.

Not to mention just how little reach the government has outside of elections anyhow. The politburo of the Soviets was the most obscene top down approach (not even the EU is this bad), where they prescribed even the design of tooth brushes! lol. America has a free market, and people can push just about any design they want. They may not profit, but at least they can do it.
 
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Yep, I know how the system works. The college is democratically elected; the president is then appointed by the democratically elected college. The EU governments are democratically elected; the commission is then appointed by the democratically elected governments.
 
America doesn’t have an extra layer of leadership, kept from public (name removed by moderator)ut, like the EU commission. At worst, America’s unelected bureaucracy lies in the staffing (of tens of thousands). Not the leadership.
 
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For the record, I’d drop my libertarianism if the church was involved. I’d welcome top down approaches in light of that. I’d even welcome “globalism”. But I’m not going to praise anything else. Nor have I seen anything good come from it. Man, on his own, simply isn’t capable of running things this way, without messing it up.
 
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Russia has “cared” about Poland for more than 500 years — Russia’s national interest in extending its influence and control in Eastern Europe long precedes the Soviet Union.

Russia’s interests in the Baltic republics and in Ukraine are evident. In the Ukraine these ambitions have been played out in front of us.
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I’ve very little problem with pan-Slavism. Russia sees itself as the Byzantine successor and, in fairness, they probably are. This is partially why there’s plenty of support for Russian suzerainty in Ukraine and Crimea. Heck, one could argue that the nation of Belarus is really a Russian duchy that merely fronts as independent.

This is also why the admission of Turkey - Russia’s historical “release valve” for military angst - into NATO was probably a poor idea for Eastern European stability, Middle Eastern stability and eastern Christendom on the whole.

As it pertains to Poland, most of the zeal of annexing Poland has been modern. Sure, there’s been wars. But they’ve been separate entities for the vast, vast majority of their histories.

I’d argue that the heirs of Novgorod don’t consider the Poles to be sufficiently “Slavic” and would provide a useful border state with the formerly mighty Germanic kingdoms - excepting Kaliningrad/Konigsberg obviously, which has enormous Naval importance for Russia (major port less likely to freeze in winter than St. Petersburg).

Last - in a post-nuclear age, any allusions to potential large scale land wars and potential multi-million fatality genocides are just absurd.
 
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