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HiyasGen Y doesn’t bother with going out for malt shakes and hand holding on the first few dates; they go straight for rounding first base.
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HiyasGen Y doesn’t bother with going out for malt shakes and hand holding on the first few dates; they go straight for rounding first base.
Define dating.
If by dating you mean going to lite things like coffee and chatting, then dating more than one person is not wrong.
If by dating you mean cultivating romance, dates with the two of you alone, kissing, hand holding - that should be an exclusive relationship and to do this with more than one woman at a time is prep for life as a cheating husband.
:clapping: *Excellently put. *Define dating.
If by dating you mean going to lite things like coffee and chatting, then dating more than one person is not wrong.
If by dating you mean cultivating romance, dates with the two of you alone, kissing, hand holding - that should be an exclusive relationship and to do this with more than one woman at a time is prep for life as a cheating husband.
AMEN:thumbsup:Define dating.
If by dating you mean going to lite things like coffee and chatting, then dating more than one person is not wrong.
If by dating you mean cultivating romance, dates with the two of you alone, kissing, hand holding - that should be an exclusive relationship and to do this with more than one woman at a time is prep for life as a cheating husband.
You see, all the vocabulary is causing some problems. Dating, relationship, whatever. I can’t fathom how a romantic relationship could be non-exclusive. That’s polyamory and that’s wrong and unnatural (not to mention my traditioinal mathematical argument against the practice). Where I see room for “non-exclusive” is when it’s not a relationship, i.e. when it’s only getting to know someone or when it’s still just friendship. When it starts being a romantic relationship, it has to be exclusive or not be at all. There’s no such thing as being in love with two people.I agree to a point…however I am guessing that if the OP is asking if this is good idea, that he has not informed the young ladies of his decision in dating them both…which I suppose is more where my hurt and surprise would lie. I would never agree to casual dating with multiple people…so I suppose I merely wanted to point out that he may need to make sure they are both aware of the situation. If they are okay with this…then that is the way it is. I would not be opposed to getting coffee with someone else, really. But if I am involved with someone I am very, as I said, loyal. I suppose it is my Lithuanian/ Irish nature…![]()
That’s why I think people have got it backwards when they focus on the distinction between “exclusive” and “non-exclusive”. I can understand why people would make that differentiation with regard to going to dances, attending social functions etc. Those suggest but don’t force a romantic commitment, so clearing it up should help avoid some nasty complications. However, when it comes to actual romance, I just can’t fathom how people would accept it to be non-exclusive in a culture which rejects polygamy.Girls especially seemed to want to go straight into “going steady” rather than casually date different guys at the same time. This is probably a symptom of our dating culture assuming that kissing and other aspects of physical intimacy are expected from the first date onward. Physical itimacy brings a natural inclination to expect commitment. Gen Y doesn’t bother with going out for malt shakes and hand holding on the first few dates; they go straight for rounding first base.
Sadly, I’m one of those who support that. >_>;;Gen Y doesn’t bother with going out for malt shakes and hand holding on the first few dates; they go straight for rounding first base.
Well, being an English major, I suppose I should allow the OP to correct the understanding of the words used…It just seems to imply his asking if this situation is okay that he is worried these girls will find out about each other. Ergo, it seems as if he is dating both, and has not told them. Why? is my question…You see, all the vocabulary is causing some problems. Dating, relationship, whatever. I can’t fathom how a romantic relationship could be non-exclusive. That’s polyamory and that’s wrong and unnatural (not to mention my traditioinal mathematical argument against the practice). Where I see room for “non-exclusive” is when it’s not a relationship, i.e. when it’s only getting to know someone or when it’s still just friendship. When it starts being a romantic relationship, it has to be exclusive or not be at all. There’s no such thing as being in love with two people.
I don’t feel I’m obligated to tell either, since there’s no stipulation of exclusiveness with either of these women.Well, being an English major, I suppose I should allow the OP to correct the understanding of the words used…It just seems to imply his asking if this situation is okay that he is worried these girls will find out about each other. Ergo, it seems as if he is dating both, and has not told them. Why? is my question…
I see…I see… prediction coming on, here ] I see… many years of shrunken shorts coming your way.I don’t feel I’m obligated to tell either, since there’s no stipulation of exclusiveness with either of these women.
What a prince of a guy.I don’t feel I’m obligated to tell either, since there’s no stipulation of exclusiveness with either of these women.
Without more information (which I’m not asking for), I can’t tell you whether I agree with you or not (I’ve made it amply clear I don’t see any obligation to tell if the “dates” are limited to just walking and talking), but lack of prior promise not to behave in a certain way doesn’t always prevent a wrong from being done by non-disclosure. At a minimum, one can’t normally claim to be doing nothing wrong if one is sending mixed messages or acting inconsistently with even implied messages. This is not so much about any supposed obligation to disclosure (it’s hard to come up with one) as it is about not leading people on and not sending mixed messages.I don’t feel I’m obligated to tell either, since there’s no stipulation of exclusiveness with either of these women.
I see…I see… prediction coming on, here ] I see… many years of shrunken shorts coming your way.
OK, I feel like I’m digging myself into a hole here. I hate to say this, but sometimes it is a numbers game. I’m certainly not asking the women to be exclusive, and I assume that they’re probably seeing other guys. Personally, I think it’s a double standard that guys get all the “poop” when they do it, but when women do it, it’s assumed to be normal or even good practice.What a prince of a guy.
I can see where you’re coming from. I have a similar perception of a double standard.OK, I feel like I’m digging myself into a hole here. I hate to say this, but sometimes it is a numbers game. I’m certainly not asking the women to be exclusive, and I assume that they’re probably seeing other guys. Personally, I think it’s a double standard that guys get all the “poop” when they do it, but when women do it, it’s assumed to be normal or even good practice.
*You might be assuming these girls are doing that…have you asked? It’s always best to say when things are leaning towards seriousness…’‘where are we heading…do you want to see others…etc?’’ It’s best to get it out in the open…than guess and maybe hurt someone…and in the end, it’s not in your best interest. Really. Trust me…OK, I feel like I’m digging myself into a hole here. I hate to say this, but sometimes it is a numbers game. I’m certainly not asking the women to be exclusive, and I assume that they’re probably seeing other guys. Personally, I think it’s a double standard that guys get all the “poop” when they do it, but when women do it, it’s assumed to be normal or even good practice.
Thanks for getting my back, bro.I can see where you’re coming from. I have a similar perception of a double standard.
Oh boy. I’ve learned in my past experiences that it’s best for the woman to bring up stuff like this; otherwise, you might scare off the girl or appear needy, controlling, etc.*You might be assuming these girls are doing that…have you asked? It’s always best to say when things are leaning towards seriousness…’‘where are we heading…do you want to see others…etc?’’ It’s best to get it out in the open…than guess and maybe hurt someone…and in the end, it’s not in your best interest. Really. Trust me…
I don’t know how ‘dating’ and ‘exclusive’ can be separated. Dating by it’s nature is a one man one woman deal since dating is for the purpose of discerning marriage/spouse. So, either you’re dating, and you give one person your time and attention, or, you don’t date either and have nice platonic outings and interactions.Is it just a plain bad idea, because it’s prime fodder for drama? I mean, do they always find out about each other? It’s not exclusive or anything, though.
My impression is that a man is expected to be ready to marry the particular woman before he asks her name or number. At the same time, I’m not sure if you would have attracted the same flak if it were clear from your nickname or otherwise that you were female. I suppose if you complained about a girl not telling you about other guys, you would get some flak for being possessive etc. It could be like how dare you claim that of her, nearly as much as now it is how dare you do that to her. (For the record, all I’ve said about non-exclusive dating stands.)Thanks for getting my back, bro.
That is again somewhat true. If you raise it, you’re controlling or possessive. If you don’t raise it, you’re passive. My personal opinion, no offence intended to anyone, but I’d rather speak freely at this point, is that at this day and age, many women, or most, are a bit deregulated in this area. If they want you to be an ideal guesser, then that’s unreasonable but at least it holds water. Now if they’re ready to see everything you do as either passive or possessive and they want you to be neither of the two (in their definition of it), then poor lasses run a high risk of never being happy with a man. Or just giving in to a dominant personality that will crush the resistance without asking what they think or how they feel about it.Oh boy. I’ve learned in my past experiences that it’s best for the woman to bring up stuff like this; otherwise, you might scare off the girl or appear needy, controlling, etc.
That’s how I see it. In turn, some people won’t be content with nice platonic outings and interactions (reserving that platonic does imply romance at least in the spiritual sense, viz.). On that platonic level, I have no problem with non-exclusivity unless there are mixed signals, but when things become more Epicurean, then that’s a different cup of fish.I don’t know how ‘dating’ and ‘exclusive’ can be separated. Dating by it’s nature is a one man one woman deal since dating is for the purpose of discerning marriage/spouse. So, either you’re dating, and you give one person your time and attention, or, you don’t date either and have nice platonic outings and interactions.